User:TJive/Web spies

The following comments were posted on Talk:The Epoch Times by a user which was warning, haphazardly, that the Chinese government has sent agents to work on the internet in order to swamp China-related topics on user, reader, and contributor-driven forums with pro-China views and delete critical ones. Amazon.com has seen a multitude of crude polemics and attacks on books which are critical of the Chinese government, so it would only seem natural were Wikipedia to become a target. The comments, by User:Freereader and then by User:Web spy killer, were first deleted by User:PatCheng and then by User:Kungfuadam because the user blanked the page in the course of posting, but they were subsequently deleted by User:PatCheng and User:RevolverOcelotX, upon every attempt to restore them in a proper place, a total of 13 times. The talk page of the latter account gives an explanation for his comments. I present all of this person's comments here, in full. --TJive 02:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

5/17/06

''' Did You Know? '''

The Chinese Communist Government have sent tens of thousands of spies overseas, many of them are known as 'Web Spies', their job is to stay online and pretend to be reviewers and post articles that glorifies the government and smears any government oppositions.

If you look at the history of reviews on this newspaper, there seem to be a few guys who are active too regularly.

Just a thought.

5/24/06

Beware of Web Spies
The Chinese Communist Government have sent tens of thousands of spies overseas, many of them are known as 'Web Spies', their job is to stay online and pretend to be reviewers and post articles that glorifies the government and smears any government oppositions.

Mr Patcheng and everyone else on this post, you are more than welcome to send me an email on webspysaver@yahoo.com, perhaps we can share our knowledges with each other.

As of 6/7/05

Dear wiki Admin, I am writing to raise your awareness to web spies. In particular to web spies employed by the Chinese Communist Party. According to Chen Yonglin and Hao Fengjun (former government official and spy who escaped overseas) tens of thousands of spies were employed overseas, and their jobs are to circulate 'pro-communist policy' discussions on the web, and smear government opppositions.

e.g. When i searched for 'Epoch Times', i find that user 'patcheng'(apologies if u r innocent) have been monitoring that page and making changes almost every day for a long time. If you look carefully at his editing, you will find him trying to smear the newspaper. even though i'm very interested in the topic, i find it hard to monitor the page every day coz i dont work full time on it.

In fact, The Epoch Times is anti-communist party, its office, staff members and advertisement clients were attacked, and the Communist party have been trying to create a propaganda to keep people away from reading the paper. For this reason i think this topic should be protected from web spies.

Actually i think it's normal for a media to have political stand, many major newspaper/TV in the US openly endorse candidates during election time. Journalist 'Deep Throat' even revealed reports that ultimate caused an US president to stay out of office.

The Epoch Times does not hide its 'anti chinese communist party' stand, this is obvious in its reports on the persecution of Falun Gong in China and its commentaries; The Epoch Times also doesn't hide the fact that one of its board of director is pro-Falun Gong (company info is open to the public). however, i would ask, is it right for people to comment on other people's religious belief? e.g. Will it be right for people to comment about the board of director of New York Times being Christian? Therefore, i think some wikipedia editors of 'Epoch Times' should be banned from editing the page and its contents be reversed.

by the way, 95% of overseas chinese media have been helping the Chinese Communist Party to justify the persecution of Falun Gong by ONLY writing articles that smears Falun Gong for many many years. Think this way, if a newspaper smeared at the Jewels or the Christians during their time of persecution, wouldn't it help the dictators to justify their action?

it's not possible for everyone to agree/join the Falun Gong practice, however 1 fact is that the death tool of Falun Gong practitioners in China increases every day. the UN (not that it's really effective) and Amnesty International have been publishing reports on the death cases. So similarly, people who smears Falun Gong on Wikipedia actually helps the government to justify the persecution, and consequently help increase death tool.

I hope from this sense, Wikipedia could truely be a platform for free flow of information instead of being the work place for Communist web spies.

--- for your ref, a link to James Town Foundation's report on HOW CHINA'S GOVERNMENT IS ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL CHINESE MEDIA IN AMERICA: http://www.jamestown.org/print_friendly.php?volume_id=17&issue_id=638&article_id=4587