User:Tayopa

Hello Jose ( Real_de Tayopa),

We've talked before on the telephone. You told me then that you had not really discovered Tayopa but it makes for a good story.

I do agree that you tell great stories. It makes for a great coffee break, but you should not tell the world that you discovered Tayopa. I have aerial photos of Tayopa, the "Circle of Mines". I also have aerial photos of a 16th / 17th Century Church deep in the heart of the mountains close to the Circle of mines.

I just had to add this bit to your post to make it a bit more interesting and let the users know that you are deviating a bit from the real truth of Tayopa.

I have coordinates and photos. And it wasn't a little bird that lead me to the site. :))

Your the best story teller and a good book is brewing. However, Tayopa has not been discovered by you or anyone else. It still lies deep in the mountains of Mexico just waiting to be found...

Take a break and go find it.

Nathan Burgess pilotschoice@hotmail.com

) good morning Jim: Frankly I am no longer interested in posting on the present status on Tayopa. It is now known in the appropriate mining circles and is gaining interest.  I probably will never open Tayopa to production again, I prefer to keep it as it is and not destroy the area, but I will open one of the main deposits, In fact, we are now setting this up legally with the Mexican gov't.  It is delicate, since Tayopa, and it's artifacts, are considered as a national treasure.

What I am curious about is, why you, as a geologist, aren't interested personally in finding more about Tayopa. Why generations Of prospectors, Geologists, and Mining /Engineers have never found Tayopa. Incidentally, my cousin is a Geologist also, and it was hard to convince him at first. But when I explained the Geological activities and formations, sent him photographs, etc., he readily understood why it hadn't been found and now is a convert.

I could readily do the same for you but just how? Regardless of any posting in Wiki.

Back to the reference of a 'creditable' source. This is a fascinating 'ring around the rosy' syndrome. A legend is just that, not enough hard evidence for a dedicated person to find the basic object. Was / is it just a figment of imagination like the Tooth Fairy, or ?/

I started the off and on again search just after I was Married in Alamos, Sonora, Mexico in 1958, after a three year Old fashioned, formal, Spanish courtship.

I needed something to support my new bride. Believe me, due to Mexican restriction on work in Mexico for foreigners, it was difficult and I had to return to the US where I worked as an Elevator Construction Engineer. making sure that the contracts met specifications and safety standards. It paid well $45:00 an hour in the 50's, an excellent salary then. I was able to return to Mexico periodically to continue the search.

The primary clue was when I found that the alter bell of Tayopa had been found and purchased by a local mining engr from LA who died shortly after.

With this physical evidence that Tayopa was not mythical, I commenced searching all available sources of Spanish period literature, and slowly over the years acquired a bit of data here and there, much of which is still not known publically. So I eventually found Tayopa and formerly denounced it and received title to it for 50 years.

During this time I started posting in the 'Treasure Net' forums. I posted my data and conclusions and asked them to find fault with the results, or my reasoning. I posted pictures, documents, theories etc. and eventually the all agreed that I was correct and had indeed found Tayopa. Many of them had had Tayopa in their sights for future hunting. Incidentally many in there are titled people, so aren't just tobacco chewing, ignorant slobs, that many think that treasure hunters are.

Unfortunately, at that time I was hit with terminal neck cancer in 2000, and so was informed on my birthday that I probably had approximately 6 months to go. I then dedicated myself to study on the physiology and psychology of Cancer and after receiving radical neck dissection, refused chemo and radiation an enterd an a self cure program. I now have perhaps 1200 hrs in the study. It worked. Today I am considered the golden child of the Oncology dept., and have officially been declared absolutely free of any cancer. Unfortunately the Neck dissection destroyed 50 % usage of my right arm, which has slowed me down radically, since the Tayopa county is just too rough.

So it now came to a full circle, I had used the piece by piece steps on bits of data to find Tayopa, none of which are verifiable individually other than they fit, were logical, and worked.

So at the moment, the only person that has the complete data on Tayopa is myself, where do we start and end. I am the only source and end on Tayopa.

As for reliable data, your instructions do state that the Internet can be used under certain conditions. To meet those conditions one has to go and read some of the thousands of pages of data and photographs, pro and con on Tayopa.

Tayopa (talk) 17:32, 7 November 2011 (UTC) Jose ( Real_de Tayops@hotmail.com