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Wikimedia Highlights from October 2012
Highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia engineering report for October 2012, with a selection of other important events from the Wikimedia movement

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 * Wikimedia Foundation Highlights
 * Mobile Wikipedia redesigned
 * First in-person meeting of the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
 * Wikipedia Zero now available to 230 million people after Saudi Arabia launch; has already grown Wikipedia readership in Africa and Asia
 * Data and Trends
 * Financials
 * Other movement highlights
 * Audio and video from open access scientific publications imported to Commons
 * 200 GLAM professionals at German conference
 * Ada Lovelace Day
 * Wikidata.org goes online

Input invited
Because you're in charge of publication, I thought it would be wise to invite your input at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2012, before I go and use a resource you've developed. Thanks.  MBisanz  talk 20:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've commented there. Thanks for the note! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:48, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for reverting this edit - I don't know what happened there, and can only assume fat fingers on the trackpad. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 09:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I'm sorry for assuming that it was intentional! Kind regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 13:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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Listen to this!
Check it out: someone created a ~75 minute reading of the Iowa class battleship article. Its up on Youtube, if you would like to listen to it. Pretty neat, I must say. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty cool! Hopefully they update them every year or so! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 10:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Copy-edit
What are you supposed to do after you copy-edit an article? Do you change the status to Needs review? --Ian159 (talk) 07:35, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi! The options are listed [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom&action=edit&section=5 here]; you can choose between "Needs review" and "Done". Thanks for copyediting FC this week—I hope we'll see you around in the future! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:56, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: November 2012
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Proposed column for the signpost: Wiki tools
Hi the ed17. I've been bouncing this idea off and he suggested I bring it to you. I propose a new column or series of articles written for the signpost by wiki tool developers (such as myself) who want to bring attention to their tools and get some feedback. For example, I've been working on a UI to help projects like Teahouse more effectively identify desirable newcomers who need support: Snuggle. However, in order to get the tool to be useful I'm looking for feedback in the short term and users in the long term. I ran the idea past, the developer of , and he's on board as well. What do you think? -- EpochFail (talk 14:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For comparison, a mini-series about tools we did back in 2010: 1, 2, 3. Regards, HaeB (talk) 14:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm up for a series (1 per week) in the Tech report, in the same way that I cover GSoC work. Gives a nice news/editorial balance to the report, I think. It's a solid idea, with precedent, as HaeB says. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 17:59, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This certainly works for me. :-) I'll look forward to the series! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:14, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Should I just start working on getting a couple of these written up and go from there?  How much space do you think we could devote? -- EpochFail  (talk 20:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I would assume somewhere between two to three paragraphs, if Harry plans to structure it like his GSoC work. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I hacked up my documentation page to get this draft together. I still need to figure out how to work the article into a structure that is appropriate for the signpost.  Any feedback you have would be great. -- EpochFail  (talk 21:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the first thing is that we don't run simulated Wikipedia articles. :-) I'd review some of the previously run op-eds listed here and a few of the recent Tech reports for ideas. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand your reference to "simulated Wikipedia articles". Is it the structure of the article or my writing style that is not appropriate.  At first I thought you meant that the article was too long, but then I found many long published opinion articles(e.g. 1, 2).  Next I thought you were referring to my use of references and a "References" section, but I'd like to make some assertions that are backed by peer reviewed research.  After reviewing a some opinion pieces and old tech reports, it seems clear that the kind of article I'd like to write is not an opinion piece or a tech report, but I'm still unclear on what's considered appropriate.  You'll have to forgive me.  Most of my creative writing effort goes into research papers for peer review. -- EpochFail  (talk 21:30, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * References are okay, I just mean that we write in a newspaper style, not a Wikipedia article-like "Bolded text is a rather large animal living in New Zealand" style. :-) Sorry for not being clear. Looking at previous tech reports (listed here) is probably your best bet. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I just rewrote the whole thing to be 1st person. Is this more like what you had in mind? -- EpochFail (talk 20:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Very much so! I'll ping Jarry so that he can work on integrating it into the tech report. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:14, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! :) -- EpochFail (talk 19:25, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Highlights from November 2012
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 * Wikimedia Foundation highlights
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 * Developer meetup and language summit in India
 * Fundraiser launch
 * Beta launch of Wikivoyage
 * Data and Trends
 * Financials
 * Other movement highlights
 * "Day of the Dead" photo contest
 * Bot connects 250,000 biographies to bibliographical records
 * "Semanticpedia" collaboration with French government and research institute
 * A simultaneous editathon from two continents

Congratulations
For this! Nick-D (talk) 00:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Way to go, Mr Ed(itor) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, cool! What's next--your driver's license? I didn't know there was an NMU; I've been to WMU a few times for obvious reasons. That's a pretty boring place! But the landscape is very Dutch, so that's good. Congrats, Drmies (talk) 03:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone! Crisco, I have a RL friend who has called me that before... I'm linking her to your comment! I have a driver's license, Drmies, and I'll use it to drive down there and beat you up. NMU is in a beautiful area, in summer or winter. You should really consider vacationing up here sometime, not kidding. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * 'Tis cool. Congrats and well done, Ed. Tony   (talk)  12:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tony! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I had missed this earlier, but doing a little tps-ing today got me here. Congrats (sorry its so late) and welcome to the club! Will you be heading to graduate school or are you going to take your chances out the market looking for a job? TomStar81 (Talk) 05:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries Tom. I'm hoping to get into grad school for the fall. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:19, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Mr. Ed(itor), ... what is it for history? MH? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If I'm lucky ... Maritime Studies. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Fingers crossed! (and now back to my finals) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Not an expert
Hi Ed17,

I added the ship Constitución to the list. Feel free to correct my contributions. I am not an expert. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 11:15, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to have to remove it, as Constitución was not a dreadnought, but I think I'll start a stub on the Argentine–Chilean naval arms race tonight and include a table there. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that sounds exhilarating. I can't wait. Really. Drmies (talk) 04:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I took a few free hours and put this table together, which I'm going to use to start a stub at Argentine–Chilean naval arms race. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I started a bare-bones stub at User:The ed17/Sandbox/Argentine–Chilean naval arms race. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

The story
You can have it if you like--feel free to copyedit and revise. Drmies (talk) 04:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We are going to publish it as an op-ed this week. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's right--just an opinion. ;) Thanks Ed, and keep warm, Drmies (talk)

Finalised changes for next year's competition
I've closed the rules discussions for next year. Please see my comments here. Feedback is very much welcome. J Milburn (talk) 17:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look later tonight, J. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All of the changes look good to me, especially the bonus point idea (which is brilliant, by the way). Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 December 2012

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Confusing wording of EdwardsBot notification of Signpost
The userpage notification item is titled for the specific new issue and transcludes the table-of-contents of that issue. But then it links to Wikipedia Signpost as "Read this Signpost in full" (emphasis mine). That link is just to Signpost itself rather than to the specific issue. It's only a transient coincidence that it's the right issue at the time of the notification, and it's no longer "this" one later. Either the link needs to be more specific or the display-text needs to be more generic. DMacks (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note. I believe we do this because the userpage notifications are meant to be read at publishing time; those wishing to browse the archives are free to do so. Kind regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:12, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho


 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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 * Thanks WSC, you too :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:15, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Need some help
I was hoping you could help me. I am in a conversation on the Battle of Jamrud, where another editor is taking certain conditions(ie. "...the immediate military objective of the Afghans was to retake Jamrud fort. They failed to retake it.") as reasoning to place Sikh victory(as opposed to Afghan victory or stalemate/indecisive) in the result part of the template. Is this customary in the military history section of wikipedia?? My other question is, doesn't the template result have to be supported by a reference stating Sikh victory, Afghan victory or Indecisive and not simply an editor's formulated opinion as to objectives gained/lost? --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, real life will mean that I will have limited internet access for the next several days. I would direct your query to one of the military history project coordinators, who will probably have more time than me to assist. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 09:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays!

 * Well, I'll level with you, I've never played Starcraft. However, my friends assure me that it's an awesome reference, so thank you very much! I'd love it anyway—Hood was a beautiful and beastly warship. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:30, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? Mind you, I was never that much into it. Hood is indeed something to look at. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't allowed much on the computer when it came out (stingy parents). When that changed, I bought the newer Warcraft III instead... probably should have gotten Starcraft too, but oh well. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:59, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I actually never played that one. Or WoW... BTW, I may have a film article I can put through MilHist's A-class review. Depends on how many sources I can track down. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:16, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Same - I could never devote the time needed to play WoW. Do it! I highly recommend Milhist's A-class process. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've been there before. Not with a film though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, as you can see, I haven't been an active reviewer at ACR for quite some time. :-) If you want an extra review for the film though, just let me know. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I haven't dropped by in a couple months. The article still needs a plot outline, and a proper lead. There are a couple English sources I haven't used yet, and there may be more newspaper sources available online (although probably not through the Google News Archive). Still in development. *sigh* — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Good luck. I certainly wouldn't be able to write about that. :-) Hopefully you can find a few obituaries of the director that talk about it? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Possible, although the easiest way would be to go to either Kompas' archive or pay (!) to use Tempo online archive (I liked them better when they were free) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeech. Do any university friends have free access? Libraries? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think my university may have free access to Tempo online archives, and I can go through Kompas stuff for free (saving it costs money though). The article as-is is pretty much ready to go, just needs a lede now... that'll get it up to GA, at least. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty good to me right now! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Needs a bit of spit shine and whatnot, but that's for later. Enjoy the New Year! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You too! :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the holiday wishes -- have a great holiday and a productive New Year! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:59, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Same here! Cla68 (talk) 23:00, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the seasonal greating, ed. The family is good spirits (well our part of it, anyway, I can not testify to how mom's doing since that half of the family has almost unilaterally stopped talking to us) despite being out of town for the holidays due to my dad lucking into some work (Odessa, TX, isn't the best way to spend the holiday, IMO, but it could always be worse). Anyway, Merry Christmas to you, and if you have occasion to play StarCraft (or StarCraft II) you can look me up on battle.net, I can play a decent game as the Terrans (perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the two tactics I'm know for is the "battlecruiser rush" :) - — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomStar81 (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks to you all. Tom, I spent mine in mid-Wisconsin; not much better. If I do ever try the game, I will type your name in :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks from me to you, Ed, for thinking of me with a seasonal greeting. From me to you, also! And best wishes for a wonderful 2013! I'll help out when you need me, Chief! MathewTownsend (talk) 19:17, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

It's Christmas!!
Merry merry Christmas, Eddie :DD (It's finally snowing here, so it does feel like Christmas after all!) Wishing you all the best ^__^ Icy  // ♫ 15:02, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We had a few flurries, but that's it. Glad you got some! Same to you, pal. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:17, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bzuk, same to you! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Signpost barnstar

 * Thanks Ed, have a good one yourself. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 16:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you both! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)