User:Thisisincredible/sandbox

What I am about:

I know there are no end of experts in the world and that people find their views useful to sort their thinking. I am no expert. I hold opinions but I do not want to have you as my clone. I don't care if you are like me or ever find my societal values. I believe that whoever you are and wherever you live shapes you. You are distinct in your person, your family and culture. It is your pride as well it should be. I think some observations I make are worthy of consideration. You needn't agree. I am an observer, and seek to discover the world and my faith as it opens to me. If someone shapes and directs who I am, then I am to blame if their advice or standards fail. I don't want to entrust something as important as my life and future, for now and ever, into other hands. That being said, I would like to share observations I have found as I consider the vital issues for my humanity and being. I can be of no use to anyone if I don't know myself, or how I came to be that way. In the last year I have probed to see what the Bible says about time, eternity, angels, Lucifer/Satan, the effects of pride in the heavenly realms to the effects of pride on our human condition. All things of God are related. They all come out of his being, and are declared in creation, and the workings of nature. The patterns show the form of all things from Eternity to the temporal creation of a material universe. How angels and man fit together is vital to an understanding of all things, and especially of the redemption God works from eternity even until the present.

Category:Noah

Noah is described as a minister of righteousness in his time. Then and now, the position to carry righteousness, let alone represent God' righteousness to others is a dangerous place. Over and over scripture admonishes us that our righteous deeds are as filthy rags, Isa 64, and our works are as filthy rags. So when man holds righteousness high and wickedness as repugnant, he risks condemnation on himself as well as others, and the sin and error he condemns in others, he ends up condemning himself. When man in Adam chose to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he ate one only fruit. If any man can discern how to divide the good from the evil, he can discern which part of the fruit is bad and the other good. Even as man cannot discern this here, he cannot judge from life, experience, knowledge, position wealth or any other human quality, what is godly and what is not. The only thing God promised for eating from that tree was death. Satan on the other hand promised knowledge and wisdom, and the ability to find a difference. So now virtually everybody tries to do the good and not the evil. Trying to discern what God forbid us to eat, and thus sort out what part of Satan's lie is true and what false is our downfall. So scripture says that we should not judge, that we should not trust in our own understanding, that we must come as a child, unaware of the meaning placed on what God created as good. For whatever man chooses about the character of man for good or evil, sets up a standard and reality that God never put there. Noah had a great difficulty with his position. I am sure that he lamented that so many were left behind. How could he represent God's feelings, and not sorrow that man was so violated and vain that God must destroy their flesh. Even the promises of salvation that are in God, and his abilities beyond understanding, didn't change the human spirit. When the righteous fail in their work, as it is seen, they mourn and the strength leaves them. No man is equal to salvation, even a temporal one as was entrusted into Noah's hands. So when he left the ark, he set up a vineyard, and his despondency led him to drink. I say here that what follows is my own opinion, but it is backed up only in its representation of spiritual truths. Noah's place with his family was strained, and his wife and children were dealing with it. But at one point, Ham the son of Noah had sexual relationship with his mother, which was the uncovering of his father's nakedness, as described by the expression in Exodus 20. So the son of Ham was Noah's son by his wife and his grandson by his son. This enraged Noah to curse Canaan, the child, the fourth born of Ham. Jewish legend holds that Noah could have no more sons, and as Canaan was the fourth, Noah cursed the child he could not have. As a righteous representative of God, I feel, and I express it that way because I have no way to prove it, that Noah would not have further relationships with his wife, and thus would have no more sons. The righteous anger of Noah brought grave spiritual consequences, as Canaan became the father of nine nations, all those who opposed Abraham and Isaac and Israel in that land. 'Man's righteousness does not accomplish the righteousness of God.' The wrath of judgment shaped the boy and his family. It is only later in Scripture that we learn of God's will to redeem, Canaan, and all the other people that oppressed Israel, even Egypt and Assyria, Sodom and Gomorrah, who are described as more righteous that Jerusalem, and Tyre and Sidon.' That is why I suggest that righteousness is a trap that man should not take. We are not up to it. We are unable to judge rightly. Outward appearances cannot show the spiritual well being of a person, let alone separate their sin from their person. Whenever man sets out to find righteousness, they inevitably set up their own. That then becomes the standard of spiritual truth, and the bearer of truth is accounted righteous among the righteous. For they all agree. They are all right. They all have the blessing of God. The proof of whether a thing is of God, is set forth in scripture, as the fruit (one fruit) of the spirit, as opposed to the one fruit of knowledge. The nature of a true man of god is humility, charity, kindness, not self sufficient or self serving. Not judgmental, always seeking the best for others, never condemning a person. 'God is at work in us to will and to do his good pleasure.' The main purpose of a humble man/woman, is to show that man should look at his creator and not all the things of this world, to see who he is and who God is. If he looks at sin, and judgment, and righteousness, he is not looking at his source, his God, and the essence of eternal being. If man is to be eternal, he must be eternal. For no created thing is eternal, unless his being is from eternity. The thrust of scripture is that evil and the lofty imaginations that lift themselves against God are of greater import than the sins of the flesh, and the deceptions of the mind. Were it not for the spiritual wickedness, the human ones would not exist. The father of lies is far worse than the lies. His works set up an alternate reality according to his wishes, according to his standards. He offers a kind of godly salvation that worships him, his knowledge, his deeds and his fame as a spiritual leader. So if you will be like god (as Satan says you will) then you will hold to knowledge and righteous deeds, your wisdom and fame as right. You will have one great spiritual leader, who will give you eternal life. He wouldn't lie.