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Ancillary jumps
Jumps made en route to final marks listed above that would be in the top 25


 * Jonathan Edwards, 18.16 (+1.3) Göteborg 07.08.1995
 * Christian Taylor, 18.02 (+0.8) Lausanne 09.07.2015
 * Kenny Harrison, 17.99 (-0.1) Atlanta 27.07.1996

Emilio "Leo" Young (born February 28, 2005) is an American long distance runner. He represented his home country in the 2023 World Athletics Cross Country Championships where he led his team to a bronze medal in the (U20) Junior race a week and a half before his 18th birthday. His 16th place was the highest from a non-East African country. He qualified for the World Championships by winning the U20 race at the USA Cross Country Championships.

While running for Newbury Park High School, he was the only person to be a part of three National Championship cross country teams over a four year period of time interrupted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Each of those races was won by a teammate, his older brother Nico Young in 2019, Colin Sahlman in 2021, and Aaron Sahlman in 2022. Leo was the last competitor each of the Sahlman brothers passed en route to their victory. With Aaron, Colin and twin brother Lex, his team set the National 4x1 Mile run record. Their time of 16:29.31 took 32 and a half seconds off the previous mark. Lex ran a 4:00.77 mile as a high school junior.

Lex and Leo are Youtube podcasters, documenting their adventures including training and racing under the handle L&L.

Summary
World record holder and reigning world champion Fernanda Ribeiro was in Atlanta, but chose to watch this race while putting her eggs all in one basket for the 10,000 meters later on. #2 Elana Meyer did the same choosing to run the marathon at these Olympics. Wang Junxia came in as an unfamiliar competitor. Having set the the world 3000 and 10,000m world records, and oh, by the way, the second best 1500m performance, 10,000 world champion three years earlier, she was not an unknown commodity. During her 10,000 record, set in a domestic Chinese meeting, she actually ran faster than the 5,000m world record, but didn't have a top ten time in the 5,000.

The first time running the 5,000 in the Olympics, Sonia O'Sullivan set the Olympic record winning the first heat, Pauline Konga improved upon it in the third heat. Roberta Brunet won the slower second heat, easily out-kicking Paula Radcliffe and Wang.

Absent the defending champion Christian Taylor, #2 jumper of all time due to injury and bronze medalist Dong Bin, the field returned the silver medalist, #3 of all time Will Claye, #5 of all time Pedro Pichardo and just 4 months after setting the indoor world record, Hugues Fabrice Zango the world leader. All had jumped over 18 metres. Taylor and Claye had also been gold and silver at the most recent World Championships, with Zango as the bronze medalist. Since the previous Olympics in April 2018, Pichardo had defected from Cuba and was now jumping for Portugal.

Out of this star studded field, only four athletes managed to exceed 17 metres in the first round, Claye was first down the runway with a 17.19m. Five jumpers later, Pichardo established himself as the leader with 17.61m, Donald Scott moved onto the podium with a 17.15m, then Yasser Triki moved into second at 17.30m, breaking his own Algerian national record. Of the jumpers with a legal first attempt, Zango found himself in dead last place with at 15.91m. Leading off the second round, Claye landed his feet somewhere close to Pichardo's mark but dropped his elbow further back. He turned around to find that effort was a foul. A couple of jumps later, Zhu Yaming landed in the same area for 17.41m, to move into second place. Pichardo duplicated his 17.61m and Triki produced a second national record 17.42m to take back his position. With a 16.83m, Zango improved but still found himself in 9th place, in danger of being eliminated before the final three jumps.

Claye led off the third round with a 17.44m to move back into a podium position. Pichardo expanded his lead with a Portuguese national record. Knowing he had hit a big one (equalling the #17 jump of all time), Pichardo posed and held up a fist while still lying in the pit. Under pressure, Zango gritted his teeth and pounded out a 17.47m bursting the bubble and moving into second place.

Nobody was able to improve through the finals except in the fifth round when Zhu jumped 17.57m to put himself into the silver medal. Triki's third national record of the competition, 17.43m couldn't move him back to the podium.

Its been a few years, I apparently haven't been paying enough attention to every edit in this policy. Someone has pushed through a bad concept in the {Olympics section. Significant coverage is likely to exist for Athletes from any sport if they have won a medal at the modern Olympic Games,. Wrong, wrong wrong.

The Olympic are the highest level of any sport included in the program. Anybody making it to the Olympics, even being named to a team and failing to go WILL HAVE significant coverage. For someone to get named to represent any country, for someone to pay the money to get them in uniform to the Olympics, we must presume there will be a history of their ascendency en route. If there isn't (say the prince's son gets named), there's a scandal. This was settled years ago and has suddenly been changed to medal status, eliminating the vast majority of Olympic participants from notability.

OK I dissected this. The addition was made here October 18 last year after almost a decade and a half of stability with this policy and my involvement with it. There is an RfC mentioned in the edit notes BUT NOT IDENTIFIED. Obviously after years of being involved in this article, I was not invited to comment on this momentus change. Mom said no, lets ask dad.

What that does is opens the door to unnecessary AfDs. There are far too many inappropriate AfDs to sort through already. It takes far too much time to prove, again and again, that sources exist. The word of an incompetent editor that says "sources don't exist" is worthless. We have always had a concept of WP:BEFORE. Nobody seems capable of doing it. When they prove a negative all they prove is their inability to type the word google into their url bar.

I've been down this road too many times with much more ambiguous AfDs. Olympic participation, PERIOD, must be the standard. If you give these feckless deletionists an inch, they will take a mile. They love to delete content in areas they have NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT and are ruining content across Wikipedia on a daily basis. There are not enough people like me who have the time to prove them wrong IN EACH CASE.

The example that set this off was Justin Best, an Olympic 8 man team rower, whose team finished 4th place last year. At the start it was a stub article. The NOM said A stub about an athelete who competed in one Olympic Game, in one team event. Made the rowing 8s final via the Repechage but finished out of medals. Simply competing, even if it had been an individual event, does not meet WP:NOLYMPICS, thus he does not meet WP:ATHLETE. He had some success with the US team rowing in junior events. I have been unable to find any independent indepth coverage of him to show he meets WP:BIO. At that time he already had links to his listing at the USOC, Olympics.com, Olympedia, World Rowing and his college team the Drexel Dragons. I know nothing about rowing, I just googled "Justin Best rower" and all the above links showed up, plus Facebook and even a linkedin. At age 24, this guy has over ten years of experience in the sport, has represented USA in international competition in 5 different years, he's won two international world medals, including one I just noticed was barely over a month ago. Multiple reports mention he got into rowing after watching a movie. I was able to expand the article into two paragraphs and that was the amount of time I wanted to devote to it. Fortunately this NOM had the honor and good sense to withdraw his nomination for deletion. Most don't. Was his initial statement about being unable to find sources disingenuous or incompetence? How many other articles have been successfully deleted based on this (new) weakness in NOLYMPICS, with other well meaning editors voting to delete based on similarly strong "unable to find sources" statements? How will we ever know? How will we right this wrong, particularly against the perception of WP:SALT that this article has previously been deleted? I've climbed that mountain, it ain't easy. It takes months, maybe years of persistence.

Over most of my 15 years of editing experience, I have successfully found sources for every article I have attempted to rescue. This is not about me. There could be dozens of me proving the point time and time again. It takes hours to find sources and edit prose. It takes minutes to set an AfD in motion. Deletionists are lemmings to echo delete votes, particularly if you give them the weakness inherent in the new NOLYMPICS. Without somebody noticing, it could take one additional vote plus the NOM to delete an article with no other comment. The removal of legitimate content detracts from the value of Wikipedia as a worldwide reference.

The lineage came clear, once it was Gabriela Szabo Then it moved to Abubaker Kaki. and later Mohamed Aman in the same event.