User:Ttonyb1/February 2011 Archives

No Left Turns
I beleive the No Left Turns entry meets all your concerns now. It's a serious site and warrants an entry. I've added citations and hope you'll remove the speedy deletion tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpaulette (talk • contribs) 22:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The sources show that the blog belongs to a credible institution (Ashbrook), is hosted by a credible figure in the academic, conservative community (Peter Schramm, at Ashland University) and is cited by credible, external sources (Power Line, Family Research Coucil). That pretty much proves the claim that it is important to the conservative community - as four other people, as I count, have attested in the past two days (and the site doesn't even show up on google searches yet). At least, it is arguable that the blog is important and the references sufficient to warrant it's inclusion on wikipedia. Please allow the page and remove the deletion tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpaulette (talk • contribs) 06:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Bulbouscell Media Group
Dear Ttonyb1, Thank you very much for your message. I appologize for deleting your post. I would like to resolve this. Please, could you tell me what your grievances exactly so I may address them point by point. I'm looking forward to adding new material to the article and addressing your concerns. --Eaninat (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The article fails to establish notability using reliable sources.  ttonyb (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Ttonyb1, we have now added reliable sources to the page. Could you please let me know if it's sufficient to address the concern about deletion? Also, I would appreciate if you could please tell me what the next steps are.Eaninat (talk) 02:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Daniel Hernandez Jr.
He is openly identified as having been formally appointed to Tucson's city commission on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues, both by the mainstream and LGBT media. KimChee (talk) 06:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So the question is is that really an occupation?  ttonyb  (talk) 06:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think so based on this official page, but I will try a different approach to the infobox to be more specific. KimChee (talk) 07:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Shalom Show on tv
Dear Ttonyb1, I'm sorry to bother you again. I just got back from a conference and would like to get back to addressing remaining problems with my article. I do not know how to provide References. I apologize also that I probably am not communicating with you the correct way. I wish this was as user-friendly as email. About References: I know many of the credible and famous people who have appeared on the show could serve as references, if they are acceptable pursuant to Wikipedia guidelines. Some names appear in the article and their names are hyperlinked to their organizations; These include recent guests on The Shalom Show include Senior Pastor Bob Coy of the Calvary Chapel, Dr. Abraham S. Fischler, Congressman Allen West, and Stan Chesley. You wrote: If I have a good secondary reference, I should send it to you and you will add it to the article;  Could Dr. Abraham Fischler, the President Emeritus of Nova Southeastern University serve as a secondary reference source? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_S._Fischler He would be glad to. How do I submit him to Wikipedia as a secondary reference source? Could YouTube serve as a reference? http://www.youtube.com/user/SHALOMshowTV Right now there is quite a lot of interest and media coverage of Congressman Allen West appearing on the Shalom Show: http://www.therightscoop.com/allen-west-speaks-truth-on-islam-israel  in the United Kingdom http://focusuk.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/alan-west-on-the-shalom-show http://www.jltv.tv/profile.php?user=ShalomShow2010 I know there were other articles published about this show. Checking in Google just now I found: http://www.bnaibrith.org/opeds/Kohn11192010.cfm Bnai Brith is a big international organization:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27nai_B%27rith http://www.thehotjoints.com/2011/01/24/video-rep-allen-west-talks-islam-and-israel-on-shalom-show/ http://vodpod.com/watch/5416396-rep-allen-west-talks-islam-and-israel-on-shalom-show I see there are now 5 External Links: Official website JLTV official site Davis, James D. (1986-08-08). "'Shalom Show' Appeal Growing Beyond South Florida Viewers". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-08/features/8602160585_1_holy-land-western-wall-stations  Retrieved 31 January 2011 Davis, James D. (1990-02-17). "'Shalom Show' Trip Productive, Stressful". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1990-02-17/features/9001250068_1_shalom-show-jewish-national-fund-israeli Retrieved 31 January 2011 Davis, James D. (1996-09-13). "Host Sees 'Shalom Show' As Opportunity For Understanding". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). Could you please assist me? I would ask that my article please not be deleted. May I ask you to remove that risk, simply because the article is correct and factual and may just need more References. Many thanks! Josephn18 (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Shalom Show on tv
Dear Ttonyb1, I'm sorry to bother you again and hope this is the correct wat to reach you. I just got back from a conference and would like to get back to addressing remaining problems with my article. I do not know how to provide References. I apologize also that I probably am not communicating with you the correct way. I wish this was as user-friendly as email! About References: I know many of the credible and famous people who have appeared on the show could serve as references, if they are acceptable pursuant to Wikipedia guidelines. Some names appear in the article and their names are hyperlinked to their organizations; These include recent guests on The Shalom Show include Senior Pastor Bob Coy of the Calvary Chapel, Dr. Abraham S. Fischler, Congressman Allen West, and Stan Chesley. You wrote: If I have a good secondary reference, I should send it to you and you will add it to the article;  Could Dr. Abraham Fischler, the President Emeritus of Nova Southeastern University serve as a secondary reference source? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_S._Fischler He would be glad to. How do I submit him to Wikipedia as a secondary reference source? Could YouTube serve as a reference? http://www.youtube.com/user/SHALOMshowTV Right now there is quite a lot of interest and media coverage of Congressman Allen West appearing on the Shalom Show: http://www.therightscoop.com/allen-west-speaks-truth-on-islam-israel  in the United Kingdom http://focusuk.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/alan-west-on-the-shalom-show http://www.jltv.tv/profile.php?user=ShalomShow2010 I know there were other articles published about this show. Checking in Google just now I found: http://www.bnaibrith.org/opeds/Kohn11192010.cfm Bnai Brith is a big international organization:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27nai_B%27rith http://www.thehotjoints.com/2011/01/24/video-rep-allen-west-talks-islam-and-israel-on-shalom-show/ http://vodpod.com/watch/5416396-rep-allen-west-talks-islam-and-israel-on-shalom-show I see there are now 5 External Links: Official website JLTV official site Davis, James D. (1986-08-08). "'Shalom Show' Appeal Growing Beyond South Florida Viewers". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-08/features/8602160585_1_holy-land-western-wall-stations  Retrieved 31 January 2011 Davis, James D. (1990-02-17). "'Shalom Show' Trip Productive, Stressful". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1990-02-17/features/9001250068_1_shalom-show-jewish-national-fund-israeli Retrieved 31 January 2011 Davis, James D. (1996-09-13). "Host Sees 'Shalom Show' As Opportunity For Understanding". Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.). Could you please assist me? I would ask that my article please not be deleted. May I ask you to remove that risk, simply because the article is correct and factual and may just need more References. Many thanks! Josephn18 (talk) 15:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Sheikh Raffie
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sheikh Raffie, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Internet Movie Firearms Database page
Hi, granted I'm still learning the ways of Wikipedia, but giving me at least an hour or so to check in and see that the page had been tagged for deletion would have nice just as a basic courtesy. I never even got the chance to add the "hang on" tag.

As for justification for the article, I cite this WP list - List of online databases - a list of over 100 similar sites. In my opinion, I had a better assembled and descriptive article than the majority of the articles on this list. How are these articles more notable than the one that I wrote? There are also 134 citations referencing the IMFDB in WP articles.

I recognize your User name and appreciate that you are one of the most experienced Wikipedians on the site, but how am I going to learn the correct ways and procedures of WP without instruction when I've asked for it? I asked De728631 (see talk page) for input and advice as to his objections for the article and there was no response. When I came back approximately hour later you had already deleted it.

I'm not angry or even annoyed, just confused at this point. So I am asking for the benefit of your experience to provide me with some insight as to what happened to my article and the overall process in the span of roughly 3 or 4 hours that lead to its deletion. Regards, Chris Scalhotrod (talk) 06:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Basically the article appeared to fail WP:WEB. There was little or no coverage of the entity and the article lacked  verifiable  reliable sources.  FYI - Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference for an article. A far as the other articles they have no bearing on this article, each article must stand on its own merits.  ttonyb  (talk) 18:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, thank you for the feedback. I have so far (and yes I realize that I should have had these references originally) found two non-trivial, independent references to the website. One in American Rifleman magazine and a second from the Outdoor Channel network's television show Shooting USA. Would this in your opinion and by your standards appear to fulfill WP:WEB? Chris, Scalhotrod (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Sutter Wall
[-- Sutter Wall deletion reversal request]

Greetings. The time and effort I spent in to creating the Sutter Wall entry was deleted upon the notion that it is advertising. It is not, Sutter Walls are maintained by unpaid hiking trail maintainers like myself. The page is obviously not advertising so I have asked that it be reinstated.

Thanks.Damotclese (talk) 07:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Mylai D Tenner Issue
Hi Sir, I have written Mylai D Tenner complete neutrally, He is motivational author here is his book link just read and you are allowed rewrite http://www.amazon.com/Empowering-Quotes-Women-Vol-2/dp/0557005094 Sir this page is marked as A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content).But as I already mentioned, Mylai D tenner is a great author and his books are really impressive.So Please unmark it and you can verify all this by reading his books. RegardsZeesolz (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Zeesolz, you should read Wikipedia's guidelines and policies more thoroughly before trying to recreate Mylai Tenner. More specifically, you need to show that Tenner meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines; you can do this by giving examples of websites, publications, or other reliable sources in which he has received in-depth coverage. Tenner might also be considered notable if he meets one or more of the criteria at WP:BIO or Notability (people).   ttonyb  (talk) 17:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Back from Iraq (2005 film)
So tell me, please, before you delete this (and as if I can figure out how else to communicate with someone) HOW can one post an article about a movie if it didn't get a massive release? I mean, if you can point me to a template, I will fill in the blanks. I just need to get these things up. Thanks-Freelance-writer-editor (talk)
 * The issue is not that the movie did not receive an extensive release, the issue is it fails to establish Wikipedia based notability using reliable sources. Please see WP:NOTFILM for the guidelines that support Wikipedia based notability.  ttonyb  (talk) 04:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So...I can read the guidelines and find reliable sources? That is not going to be difficult. I barely had a first draft typed when I was hit with the deletion threat.  Please don't disappear, I know i will have more questions.Freelance-writer-editor (talk) 04:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)  LIke do these sources pass muster:
 * IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0860892/
 * Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Back-Iraq-U-S-SoldierSpeaks/dp/B001BSKT7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297141216&sr=8-1
 * Stan Goff: http://www.counterpunch.org/goff11082005.html
 * Michelle Malkin http://www.democracynow.org/2005/11/14/did_former_marine_jimmy_massey_lie


 * None of the above are reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freelance-writer-editor (talk • contribs) 01:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The articles above are not "non-trivial", secondary references.
 * IMDB - A film's entry in the The Internet Movie Database can provide valuable information, including links to reviews, articles, and media references. A page in the database does not by itself establish the film's notability.
 * Amazon - "Trivial", only shows the movie was created and is for sale on Amazon.
 * Stan Goff - "Trivial", only mentions the film in passing.
 * Michelle Malkin - "Trivial", does not even mention the film.  ttonyb (talk) 01:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Mick De Giulio
Re. Mick De Giulio entry's proposed deletion...

As a former editor and shelter magazines professional, I don't know how to respond to your criticism to the lengthy bibliography without offense. "Interior Design", "House Beautiful" and "Better Homes & Gardens" are not reliable sources? Yes, please forward my entry on to more eyes and most especially to someone with interior design expertise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karinhedwards (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I realize part of the issue here may be the term reliable sources. Of course  "Interior Design", "House Beautiful" and "Better Homes & Gardens" can be reliable sources; however, the concern I have is not only about the published source of the reference, but the substance of the references.  Specifically, there is a difference in a one or two line quote from the individual and an article about the individual.  In addition the references may be only primary in nature and the article may lack secondary sources. For example, an interview with the individual is a primary source, but an article about the individual is a secondary source - if someone is quoted in the WSJ or NYTimes it is considered trivial support.  The issue here is not getting someone to review the article that has "interior design expertise", but rather being able to validate the substance of the references.   ttonyb  (talk) 17:32, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

EEng page
Hi Tony, I got a message about a "speedy delete" of a page that I didn't create (as far as I know). I did complain about his behavior via the proper channels (unless I did that wrong), but never created a Wikipedia page about him. Can you explain what may have happened? I am new at this. Thanks. Smm201`0 (talk) 22:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure what happened. Sometimes there are unexplained glitches in the messages.

I would just delete it. My best to you.  ttonyb (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

G11 speedies
Hi. I have deleted Aotea souvenirs, but not for the reason you gave (WP:CSD). That tag is only meant for pages in a promotional style, full of glowing adjectives and WP:PEACOCKery, but this was quite neutral and factual. There was no indication of importance, so I deleted it as A7. It may seem an unimportant difference, but it affects the message the newbie user gets, and after G11 he's liable to come back saying "but it was purely informational", when we have to say "Ah, but it's not notable, got you anyway." For that reason, if there's any doubt I think it's preferable to use A7. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message.  ttonyb  (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Charles Mitchell (government official)
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Charles Mitchell (government official), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 04:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, I have already AfD'd the article.  ttonyb  (talk) 04:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Clarke (Author)
Hi, I am trying to determine what sort of secondary source is required to authenticate my listing. Regards Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aclarke42 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Take a look at reliable sources and secondary sources and let me know if you have any questions.  ttonyb  (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

your speedy deletion
The name Ola-abaza was added also because in one of the article he published (links) he is identified as having the penname "Ola-abaza" but he does not shorten it on his own sites. So I thought aredirect would be a good idea as many people may use the short one but the whole name is the real one. With names it seems he has several. Please consider and advice me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyrussell34 (talk • contribs) 06:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on your comments, I have removed the CSD and left the redirect. My best to you.   ttonyb  (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reading and understanding my reason. Best to you as well! K. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyrussell34 (talk • contribs) 06:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

El Cadáver Exquisito
Hi Ttony, my name is Victor Ruano (www.santasombra.com) and I am using Humanayo as my user name since wikipedia advices not to use your real name, I am not hiding or vandalizing anything. I am the director of the project El Cadaver Exquisito, all the material I am posting here has been produced, created, designed, written by my studio called Santasombra. Instead of sending me threatening emails to banned me from here, could you please direct me how to properly add this material here? I am not vandalizing my own page or wikipedia content, I am just not sure how to do this, and I thought this was the proper way. Since there are many regulations here it took my around 2 weeks to figure out how to properly upload the poster. I wrote the synopsis, and the press article which I published in mubi.com and my blog of el cadaver. I added the reference links and the categories which u removed? What else do you need? thanks for your help. Thanks, Victor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humanayo (talk • contribs) 15:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


 * There are two issues with the text you were adding. First, the text was copyrighted material.  Copyrighted material cannot be added to Wikipedia without permission.  For non-owners of the text, one must follow the instructions in WP:PERMISSION.  Since you have indicated you are the owner of the text you must donate the text to Wikipedia.  I suggest you read the article closely and note the ramifications of the donation.  The reason the copyright tag was added to your talk page was after the text was removed and the reason noted in the Edit summary, you re-added the text to the article.


 * The second issue is the text and format of the text is not encyclopedic in nature. The addition of full cast or thanks section is considered as fluff and does not add anything to the substance of the article.  In addition, the format and substance of the references and categories was incorrect.  I have added a Welcome message on your talk page to help you in your creation of the article.  I suggest you read the links and let me know if you have any questions.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: AnimatLab
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of AnimatLab, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a copyvio or source is public domain or under another free compatible license. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I see the page change. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

\==Stephen Choularton== I added a little to your good advice to the author. (but when someone says he's rewriting, my own practice is to wait a few days before going to AfD or prod. The discussion does give them time to rewrite in any case, but it sort of hangs over them in an unpleasant way. )   DGG ( talk ) 06:48, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, I was a bit too hasty. My best to you. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk)

Please clarify
Hello, Please clarify...how many article/cites/ references does one need to not have an "orphan" page? I read the info page on the Wikipedia site...not much help. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdkd456 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Orphan pages are pages that do not have links from other Wikipedia articles. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 20:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Colonel Richard T. Curry Article
article has significant historical value. This article and Colonel Richard T. Curry has significance and relevance to Ohio Military History, he is the only Ohio National Guard Officer to have lead a Battalion (1-107th CAV) and a Brigade (37th IBCT) as a Commander into war (Iraq). He lead and conducted couter insurgency operations with 524 soldiers in Iraq in 2004-2005 and then commanded the largest single unit formation to go to war since WWII when he commanded the 37th IBCT in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq), consisting of over 2528 soldiers. He was also the first commander of the 37th IBCT when it reorganized from the 37th Armor Brigade (he was also the last commander of that organization). The brigade accomplished more than any other Brigade size unit from the Ohio National Guard and is the largest formation Ohio has in it's military ranks (3700 soldiers). COL Curry is a notable commander and historical Ohio military figure due to being the only Ohio National Guard Officer to Command a large formation in combat since it was accomplished by MG R. Beightler during WWII wity the 37th Infantry Division. Wikipedia is a perfect place to have this information so that it can be built upon and kept for historical data research in the future. COL Curry is a prominate figure in Ohio Military History based on his accomplishments prior to retiring in 2010.

I respectfully request that you restore the article to wikipedia so that this piece of Ohio History can be told. Thank you for consideration in this matter. Bengal40 (talk) 20:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * X mark.svg Not done This was speedily deleted because the article gave no reason why the subject was notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. I suggest you contact the admin that deleted the article, TomStar81 and tell him exactly what you just told us. I can also userfy the article for you if you wish. <font color="#303030">l'aquatique <font color="#7FC11C">[talk]  00:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Bengal40 (talk) 20:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Bengal40, You need to contact User:TomStar81. TomStar 81 was the admin that deleted the article.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 20:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for retrieval, Internet Movie Firearms Database
I am requesting the retrieval of the article Internet Movie Firearms Database. After our conversations here and on my talk page, via your recommendations I believe that I have satisfied the WP requirements for its creation. Thank you, Chris Scalhotrod (talk) 18:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Chris, you need to contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 18:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Lorenzo Iorio Article
Hello. Could you, please, let me know if, now, the revised version of my article is OK? Thank you.Michoball (talk) 22:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Punk Rock 101 (Music Event)
I think the page for Punk Rock 101 (Music Event) should not be deleted. There is enough reference presented to prove the show exists. The event is hugely popular in our city and I think it's time it deserves the recognition it deserves. There is not much press coverage on the event as it came to an end in 2005 but is now re-established and will re-launch on 28th April 2011 - reference provided for this also. Many thanks Dookieboy1988 (talk) 03:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just because something exists is not a reason for its existence in Wikipedia. All articles must show notability using reliable sources.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

DJ Celeste
FYI: This text in wiki is a copyright for DJ Celeste and the OFFICIAL DJ CELESTE WEBSITE, and the usage DJ Celeste AND the official website chose to use it at for example Wikipedia! It is authorized to use this text in wikipedia for the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Celeste Best regards, Celeste Heintz aka DJ Celeste aka --CelestialStorm (talk) 01:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Copyrighted material cannot be added to Wikipedia without permission. For non-owners of the text, one must follow the instructions in WP:PERMISSION.  Since you have indicated you are the owner of the text you must donate the text to Wikipedia.  I suggest you read the article closely and note the ramifications of the donation.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:52, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok, will do so, please give me some time to read and write, and follow the wiki rules. Thank you.--CelestialStorm (talk) 03:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I have changed my text, please review, thank you.--CelestialStorm (talk) 04:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello again, look I have changed the text so that it is no longer the same as on my website, never the less, people (admins and bots I assume) won't alow the changes I have made. How do I enter my NEW text that IS changed now? Because I did that and it is gone again (see edit history of page please). Thank you --CelestialStorm (talk) 04:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1,

I see you made another notification about this article being deleted. I am working to improve the article and I feel now you just don't give me a chance to do that, if you with almost every edit or change I make refer as wrong. In that way it is impossible to improve the article, because someone decides it is wrong anyway! That is not a very nice welcome to new contributors like myself. I am also working on references to verify the information and keep it as neutral as possible, so please give me a break and time without a warning with every edit I do, to do so.

Best regards,

--CelestialStorm (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Miss dolly dollars
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Miss dolly dollars, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement. Thank you. -- Lear's Fool 05:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Please, Ttonyb1, help me with the other admin in the deletion review for Lorenzo Iorio!
Ttonyb1, please come and read what that admin Jay writes!! It is totally absurd! He refures to read what I wrote!! He ask me to..demonstrate that Iorio was born in 1971 and that he lives in Bari!!!! He did not read anything about what I wrote about NASA ADS, bibliometry, and so on! He still asks me to prove those information with reliable secondary sources!!!! Michoball (talk) 19:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a Question and clarification
You reverted an edit here. I was just curious as to why this information shouldn't be in this article. I looked at it before you removed it, and didn't seem to find it disruptive, although a bit POVish.--Jojhutton (talk) 19:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking, per WP:RY, "National elections are not usually included unless they represent a significant change in the country (e.g., a nation's first election). " It was a little UK centric as well. My best to you.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I also noticed that you re-removed the Obama edit. I read the guideline and its hard to argue with you. You seem to have made both reverts within the guideline and its hard to find fault in that. I am still sitting here scratching my head as to why the guideline is worded the way it is. It seems to just say Don't do it, and doen't appear to give a rationale as to why not. I think I will open a discussion at the guidelines talk page and see if we can't get some sort of clarification on that part of the guideline. Feel free to give advice on the subject as well as any input will be helpful.--Jojhutton (talk) 19:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to open a discussion, however, be advised there has been a lot of discussion about country centric events and the wisdom of adding them to the recent years articles. You might want to review the archives for further info.  Sorry, I cannot point you to any specific discussions and it might take a bit to find the specific arguments against.  I have to agree that not adding is probably the way to go, there are country specific recent years articles that these items are generally added to. (i.e., 2010 in the United States, 2010 in the United Kingdom, etc.) My best to you.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Rich Liegey
Cinematographic, Hopesffall, Down To Earth Approach, Wheatus, Hopesfall Greetz Goroth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goroth (talk • contribs) 21:12, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Mini Final destination
Why would you want to delete Mini Final Desintarion? It's not important? It is to some people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metroidp2 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Simply put, it fails to establish notability. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 02:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Afnix (programming language)
I commend you for your patience in discussing with the user at Articles for deletion/Afnix (programming language). After seeing his repeated misrepresentations of Wikipedia policies and combative WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT attitude, I chose not to engage in discussion with him because it would not bear fruit. Cunard (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment. Hopefully he will see the light. 8-)  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope so too but am doubtful. I'm sure though that the closing admin will see through the bluster. ;) Cunard (talk) 02:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Disfunction-Ill
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Disfunction-Ill, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''If they're signed to a notable label, that's enough for A7. Needs to go to AfD.''' Thank you. Ged UK  22:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message, I have AfD'd the article. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Article Brilliant Failures
dear Ttnoyb1,

Please note that I am the cophrigth owner of the material on the website www.brilliantfailures.com and I granted permission to wikipedia to use the material. Thanks for your alertness, bjt in this case, publication is OK. Best wishes, Prof. Paul L. Iske —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.170.81.142 (talk) 22:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

No Left Turns
There was no consensus to merge "No Left Turns" with "Ashbrook Center for Public Affairs" There were 2 posts to keep, 1 to merge, 1 to delete and 1 no committal. The article was improved since it was nominated for deletion, which might not have been considered. I feel your action was arbitrary and capricious. Roesser (talk) 21:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest you reread Articles for deletion/No Left Turns and pay attention to the result. The admin closed the AfD with the statement, "The result was merge to Ashbrook Center for Public Affairs. The consensus is that the blog is not notable in its own right, but I feel that the content could be usefully merged with the parent organisation."  I am at a loss to see how my action would be seen as "arbitrary and capricious." <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * After rereading Articles for deletion/No Left Turns I see that it wasn't you that wrote the result, but you are the one that made the edits to effect the merge. There are exactly four people that made comments, two asserted that it was not notable and two that it should be kept. Two out of four is not a consensus, it's not even a majority. Consensus decision-making is a group decision making process that seeks not only the agreement of most participants but also the resolution or mitigation of minority objections. Keeping the article would be a consensus because that decision could be easily reversed in the future after the article's notability is better established. Roesser (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So in reality you were calling the admin that closed the AfD "arbitrary and capricious." What you perhaps fail to recognize is AfDs are not votes in the traditional sense – it is not a function of having more Keep votes than Delete votes.  Admins look at the substance of the comments associated with the !votes and can ignore/minimize !votes lacking substance or not supported by valid arguments. I cannot not speak for the admin that closed the AfD, but I noted although you gave a number or reasons why you thought the article should be kept, you ignored the question how does the article meet the criteria in WP:WEB and you failed to supply any support to establish Wikipedia based notability.  The other Keep !vote also failed to provide support (using Wikipedia criteria) as to why the article meets Wikipedia based notability.  You should really be discussing this with the Admin that closed the AfD. I would suggest you may want to tone down the "arbitrary and capricious" comment.


 * I actually think the merge solution is fair. It allows for the article to forward without deletion.  If you feel the deletion is unfair you can request a Deletion Review.     <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 00:59, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. This has been educational. I'll back off of my charge and abide by the decision and your explanation. If and when more evidence about the notability of "No Left Turns" becomes available I'll rejoin the effort to re-establish it as an article. Thank you for your patience. Roesser (talk) 02:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Mike Nazzaro
FYI - I changed the speedy on this page to a PROD per some...weak improvements since tagging.--v/r - TP 15:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. I have tried to make some improvements, but don't think it will survive an AfD. I'll probably nominate later today or tomorrow. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. I'll nominate it in a day or so if it hasn't improved and you haven't already.--v/r - TP 04:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Soma Snakeoil
Why is Soma being sought for deletion? What specific articles is there a problem with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Big D Shire (talk • contribs) 23:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The article fails to establish notability using reliable secondary sources. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

To Kill A Mockingbird
I notice that you seem to like To Kill A Mockingbird quotes. I have one for you: shoot all the bluejays you want, but remember, it's a sin to kill a mockingbird. Why did they say it was a sin? Because mockingbirds don't harm anyone, they just make pretty music.

On a slightly related note, the page Chuck Norris's beard was a redirect and could not have taken up much server space. Like I said, it would only have generated hits from the crazy chuck Norris fans. It hurt no one, and could only have gotten Wikipedia more hits. You, my friend, have just killed a mockingbird.

Slightly more intelligent than your average troll, wouldn't you say? You can check the quote and reasoning, they're from the book. ThogTheCaveman (talk) 03:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't need to check the quote, I am very familiar with it and its application. What you are missing is equating your article to "beautiful music" is sinful.  The purpose of Wikipedia is not to generate hits from anyone, crazy or not. Your article fails to establish any sort of notability necessary for inclusion in Wikipedia and only impacts its credibility.  My best to you.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Sinful - just slightly over the top. I admit, the comparison wasn't the greatest. My article was definitely not beautiful music. The point I was trying to get across was that even with limited good, the article wasn't doing much bad. You're right about there being no need for inclusion; I got bored, so I wrote an article that had no application. Thanks for staying polite - I've met some guys at Wikia who would probably b debating my sexuality by now when I was improving their stuff instead of what I did here. ThogTheCaveman (talk) 03:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * 8-) <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)