User:Ungtss/General notes

You've discovered my secret
...I'm a closet religious nut...Bwah ha ha!

I know that you won't agree, but I find my seemingly contradictory stances on Talk:Human and on the creationist pages consistent. In fact, I find it a confirmation of my stance that I am opposed by both creationists and by secularists. Anyway, I hope that you'll read my posts on the Talk:Human page and see what I'm trying to do there. --Goethean 16:51, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I really respect what you're doing on that page:). Thanks for fighting the good fight for npov on that particular front:).  Ungtss 16:54, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Human
I deleted the comments from the assertion you moved. I agree with the move and the addition of an attribution, however weaselly ("Some people believe"). Thanks for your help, Ungtss. Tom Haws 15:01, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * No prob:). Ungtss 16:05, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

shark and helicopter
wow! I put that as my wallpaper on my desktop. Where the heck did that image come from? Whats the story behind it? Sam Spade Apply now, exciting opportunities available at Spade & Archer! 15:32, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * heya -- glad you like it:). i'm afraid i don't know anything about it -- just got it from a friend and thought it was cool:).  Ungtss 17:27, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My wife thinks its fake, I think I'm gonna try looking into it. Its quite cool tho, esp. w your caption! I'm a fan of G.K. Chesterton as well, btw. Sam Spade Apply now, exciting opportunities available at Spade & Archer! 17:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * awesome:). yeah, i think it's probably fake too:).  keep up the good fight, bro:).  Ungtss 17:41, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's fake. It made the rounds on the web.  By the way, thanks for your support.  Lots of bullies running around. --VorpalBlade 17:44, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * My pleasure -- bullies aren't so tough when the numbers aren't in their favor:). Ungtss 17:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Support

 * Thanks. Does no higher up care about quality?  Can't you appeal to someone about such obvious off topic ad hominem attacks?  What is "rfc"?  Does my response on my page notify you of a message?  Is there any way to give someone an email address without making it public?  Sorry for all the questions.   --VorpalBlade 23:09, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * sadly, in my experience, the higher-ups just care about evolutionism:(. on all OTHER topics, the system works very well -- but creationism is, sadly, the exception.  to email somebody, you can go to their user page, and click "e-mail this user" in the "toolbox" at the bottom left of the page.  not CLOSE to too many questions -- it's nice to have some more sanity on board:).  Ungtss 23:18, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The thing is, in the real world, it looks like most people are starting to understand the real story and see the attacks for what they are- attempts to keep out the problematic evidence, like the fossil record and the Cambrian explosion.  Wiki is not the world, thank goodness. --VorpalBlade 23:32, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * you're absolutely right:). thank god most people are smarter than the evolutionists think they are:).  Ungtss 23:33, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Teach page
I am surprised by your optimism, given your previous experiences.
 * hope springs eternal:). i consider wikipedia a fantastic opportunity to explore and practice ways of compromising and synthesizing ideas with people whose views are diametrically opposed to my own.  i haven't quite figured out how to do it yet in the context of creationism, and i don't know that i ever will.  i've certainly encountered more blind bigotry in the past months than i thought was possible:).  but if we don't figure out how to transcend bigotry, then where will we be:(?  Ungtss 18:13, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I would rather work with people who show potential for being open minded and fair. Still no substantive criticism on the merits of the topic. Ironically, as I said, it's a metaphor for the topic discussed.
 * i hear that:). tactics: tools of the misinformed and dogmatic:).  Ungtss 18:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Human
Hey Ungtss, thank you for conceding the point about the sentence in the intro. That was very gracious of you. Perhaps we could revisit the point at a later date? My main concern at the moment is not to destabilize the intro, as we seem to have reached a sort of consensus. Maybe when it's more settled, we could revisit the issue of that sentence, because it's just a question of finding the right words and the right position for it. Again, thank you for your reasonable approach. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 18:48, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * My pleasure:). thanks for being so open about your concerns with the sentence.  it helped me see clearly what was going on, where i couldn't before.  this is the second time you've educated me a great deal -- i am in your debt:).  Ungtss 19:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)