User:VAcharon/Parentalistic Schizophrenia

''I got in an edit war with a vandal over a fake psychiatric disorder he created. It was a poorly written screed implying that evangelicals, politicians, his parents, etc. were all schizophrenic. He had obviously not done any research, because he failed utterly at describing something like schizophrenia. I put up a tag, which he took down without comment. Then we got in a brief edit war over a tag, until he'd accrued enough warnings to be reported for vandalism. I don't know why the admins didn't shut him down then; maybe they enjoyed viewing the following grudge match. Eventually he blew up, wrote the following signed "trench" (piecemeal, making me deal with the edit conflicts -- but at least he was trying to sign things), and blanked both the page and the talk page. Come soon, oh banhammer! Until then, I shall keep a watchful eye on trench's user contributions. --VAcharon 09:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)''

Real?
I can't find "parentalistic schizophrenia" (or "paternalistic schizophrenia") on Google or Google Scholar. Nor can I find "parentalistic" on dictionary.reference.com. Is this a real disorder?--VAcharon 08:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that the article's author removed the tag without comment. I have replaced it with a better one.--VAcharon 08:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

possibly
it's something i've been doing some research on. it's kind of the opposite of infantilism (as per the text), where instead of one feeling compelled to be a child, one feels compelled to be a parent. it's actually very prevalent in western society, but for cultural and political reasons, it isn't recognized. the guy who first identified it gave it a bad name (derived from infantilism, as this became parentalism), so many of us refer to it as "parental" schizophrenia, since it's easier to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctortrenchbean (talk • contribs)
 * You're the author of the article, the one who can't follow Wikipedia policies about speedy delete templates. Your "research" is apparently Original research, which is also against Wikipedia policy. You mentioned "a guy who first identified it," but no name, publication, or date. The fact that you've provided no sources to support your "possibly" real disorder makes me doubt you've taken even the first step of research, literature review.


 * I have done a literature review. Neither Google, nor Google Scholar, nor InfoTrac Psychology Collection have any record of "parentalistic schizophrenia." The phrase "parental schizophrenia" does appear, but only to describe parents' schizophrenia and how it affects their children. Even in the unlikely event that somewhere real psychologists are defining this disorder, they have yet to do so in a way that is verifiable.--VAcharon 08:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * it's a newly identified disorder, just like every disorder is when it's first identified. besides, this is wikipedia. nobody takes it seriously, and nobody reads the talk pages. by the way, i wouldn't even be writing on this talk page if i hadn't seen a kludge of two people trying to edit the same article at once (because you're a mindless busy-body), and i probably won't ever see this talk page again. why don't you find something else to do rather than sitting around putting tabs on wikipedia articles? try getting a job, getting laid, getting drunk, getting stoned! let the scientists handle the science (if you want to call psychology a "science"; i call it bullshit). -trench


 * ah on an aside, i think your reference to "paternalistic schizophrenia" may be more accurate. as i'd pointed out to my friend, paternalism is more along the lines of what he is trying to characterize as a disorder. ok now no more talk page for me! bwahahahaha!!!!!!! -trench


 * Looking at the references you've included:


 * 1) Was a link to an interview with George Carlin, pretty much non-authoritative and off-topic.
 * 2) Was a dictionary definition. I concede that the adjective parentalistic could be formed from the noun parentalism.
 * 3) Defines parentalism as the quality of an individual that prefers offloading responsibility to maximizing personal freedom; it is almost completely the opposite of the disorder described in the article.
 * 4) Is a blog, but it also supports my interpretation of the previous source. It defines parentalism as, "the desire of some people to have their own freedom restricted for their own good".
 * 5) I shall ignore for now, since I no longer have access to a law library. But I doubt a 1974 volume of "Columbia Law Review" has anything to do with "a newly identified disorder."
 * What I neglected to mention until now is that none of your references describe a psychological disorder related to schizophrenia or anxiety. Early on I would have guessed that you were a young libertarian with evangelical parents and no more than a year's formal instruction in psychology. Am I close?--VAcharon 09:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

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''Postscript: He came back to the talk page for another shot, but it's really not worth archiving here; it is bigoted and ugly. I closed with, "The Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity this was not." --VAcharon 09:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)"