User:Vegaswikian/Archives/2007

2007
We need an admin to update and  ... I've already done -- ProveIt (talk) 01:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the move
Just a note to say thanks for moving Tarkio College. It's a small thing, but it made me happy. Thanks for all your hard work! :) Beginning 01:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Pastorwayne
I left a comment on User:Pastorwayne and his rapid category creation at WP:ANI. The comment asks for Pastorwayne to be regulated regarding category creation. Feel free to comment. Dr. Submillimeter 22:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Airlines of the United States
Hi. I just created Template:Airlines of the United States and wanted to know if you thought it was a good idea and also whether you had any edits you think should be made to it. Lots of other countries have such a template, so I think it's in good form, but I still think it could use some work. I'm also wondering also whether it should be split to continental US and Alaska only airline templates, as Alaska in particular has a lot of little airlines, many of which have no articles to their name. Anyway, let me know what you think, or just edit away. Or if this isn't up your alley, then nevermind. :) Thanks. --Allstar86 07:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Windows Fiji
Hey there. Can you protect Windows Fiji and Windows "Fiji" from re-creation? You'd suggested it as a possibility here, and the page has since been created, deleted, and created again... apparently some wordpress blogger posted some very authoritative-sounding list of features that will be featured in this supposed OS, but... well, you know the content policies well enough to know that this isn't acceptable. :) Protecting this page until such a time that Microsoft's future plans are announced somewhat officially will save us a lot of hassle in having to delete this content over and over.  Thanks.  -/- Warren 16:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Quick Key
I noticed that you voted to delete the page 'Quick Key' as spam. Compared to you, I'm a newbie (only a few years) so I'm interested in learning what differentiates articles such as Quick Key from articles such as BabelMap, MainType, or Unicode Font Viewer. Thanks. Nathanaeljones 12:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Military brat
Hi Vegas, I have made a proposal on the discussion that I would like you to look at. Basically it is this. Military brats are the largest subcategory of Third Culture Kids (an article needing a fair amount of work.) I propose creating a new category Third Culture Kids and then creating a subcategory on military brats. This will alert those who are unfamiliar with the term that we are dealing with a scientifically studied definable term. It will let people know that we are not dealing with a mere "slang" term that those unfamiliar with the term might find offensive. As for it not being a defining characteristic for most people, the research does say otherwise. I think this compromise, however, will alert people that we are dealing with a scientific usage and think this should fly.Balloonman 17:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Cocktails
Hello. As a person possibly interested in cocktails and/or the WikiProject Cocktails, you may be interested to know that a name change is being considered for the WikiProject from Cocktails to Mixed Drinks. Please add your opinions to the discussion and vote. Also, check out the recent changes to the WikiProject area. Consider becoming an active Participant. Thanks! --Willscrlt 09:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

US Airways
The fleet table in the US Airways page is simple and dispalys basic, yet needed information. Changing it similar to the Singapore Airlines article will not accomplish anything. Considering what you, Vegaswikian, said in the talk page of US Air, the article shouldn't have America West airlines information displayed in it. The airline is merged, and seperate information is no longer needed. America West information can be displayed in the America West page! America West is now US Airways in passenger terms. Most of the airline is combined, therefore seperate information is not needed, as the www.usairways.com website is combined with America West.--Golich17 03:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I just believe the fleet table should remain how it is. Let them be seperate, but note above table that there is also an America West fleet.  I just seem to like to stick with one table to create somewhat of a consistency.  I believe this would.--Golich17 03:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That looks and sounds good to me. I definately agree.--Golich17 03:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Gaming/Gambling
You made a good point regarding my Harrah's edits, that "gaming companies" is the category name. I've submitted a request to rename the whole category, and I invite your comments: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_January_11#Category:Gaming_companies Alvis 08:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Category:Anthropomorphic martial artists
I'd relist it. There wasn't enough input for me to make a beneficial decision on the matter. — P ilotguy (ptt) 22:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Livingston Airline Destinations on deletion review
Thanks for letting me know. I commented. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ontario Farms
Just to let you know, I have unprotected the article and restored the three non-copyvio revisions. It's related to an OTRS ticket. :)-- §hanel  06:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Straw poll
Please take a look at WP:MALL to which you have contributed, with respect to proposals to merge it with WP:LOCAL, to continue developing it, or to go ahead and implement it as a guideline. Thanks. Edison 21:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

el rancho
the reason for removing the entries for el rancho is because they are already listed, and have no corresponding link. --emerson7 | Talk 16:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * i really recommend that you read the mos:dab article. it gives very good guidelines on what should and should not be included in dab pages....including the appropriateness of using redlinks. i really think a revert war is stupid and unnecessary over such a small topic, but your usage of the dab article on el rancho is really not in accordance with the WP:MOS. --emerson7 | Talk 19:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

1 column or 3 columns
Hello On your recent edit to List of personalities associated with Wall Street, you made the 3 columns that were there reduced to a single (1) column. I believe that 3 columns look better. Is there a reason for this? Does it look better now? Thank you Trade2tradewell 09:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Midway Airport Vote
Not a problem; I didn't think it looked right there anyways Sox23 00:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Vegaswikian- how long should we wait until a decision is made regarding the name change? Sox23 03:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks - that brings the poll to a close tomorrow night. Sox23 03:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Vegaswikian: After 6 days of voting/opinions, Midway Airport has a clear concensus to change the title to Chicago Midway International Airport. I, however don't know the proper steps to move the page to the specified location (because "Chicago Midway International Airport" is already a page in use)...by any chance do you know what the steps are? Sox 23 21:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * nevermind, I figured it out...and am redirecting pages to Chicago Midway International Airport Sox 23 22:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Casino articles
I didn't create the Bally's article. I changed its name because it was named Bally's Casino which contradicted articles such as Bally's Las Vegas. I did not want to lose the valuable photos in the article, so instead of deleting it I renamed it, also certain articles mistakenly linked to it as it was named Bally's Casino. The only thing valuable in the article were the two photos so I went back into the history and merged the photos into the already established Bally's Atlantic City article, which is what I should have done in the first place but was unsure how to it, but I thought it out and did it. Thanks for the heads up. I see that you, correctly, cleaned up the Category:Casinos in the United States and placed every article in the subcategories. Freddiem 06:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Pro/Con discussion on the WP:NC:CITY
I just want to drop a note commending you on pushing the discussion in new direction with the Pro/Con discussion format instead of the same old polls and long threaded, conflicting comments. While I don't know if we could get a concrete consensus, the discussion seems a bit more organized and it feels like some progress is being made instead of us talking in circles. It was a great idea and I think I'm going to follow your example from here out as a perfect alternative to polling. Might I suggest you consider adding it to the guideline WP:POLL? Agne 22:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Midway International Airport
Yeah I guess you're right...but I don't have time to go back and change them right now....when I can get to it I will try to change them back Sox 23 01:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

CSD's
As a note, I removed your templates from Felix Eldridge and Rose Jackson, as both have survived an AfD. This makes a speedy deletion proceduraly incorrect; if you believe these people are non-notable (and concensus on this issue would have changed), please renominate them at articles for deletion. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 08:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Bermuda International Airport
Why did you delete "Category:Airports in British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies|Bermuda" from this Article?

This is an appropriate categorization; Bermuda is a British Overseas Territory, you know! JGHowes 16:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Block for vandalism
How would you block a user from constant vandalism...76.16.109.18 has constantly vandalised several pages (Gary/Chicago International Airport, LA/Ontario International Airport etc...) today after I told them to stop... Sox 23 03:30, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks for your help Sox 23 17:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

AtTask
If you are going to speedy AtTask, please take the time to look through the rest of the products at List of project management software. I have been monitoring that page for over a year now and taking care of articles that are blatant advertising, but the ones that are there currently have made at least some effort to write legitimate articles. -- Renesis (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you, I understand the process. I'm an administrator myself and as I said, I've been monitoring the page for over a year.  All I am saying is, please review the other products on that page, because few of them are any more notable than AtTask.  I know the company, and although the article did not assert notability, it does fit the requirements and I'll probably get around to adding that information at some point. -- Renesis (talk) 00:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So, you're willing to browse for articles to tag for speedy deletion, but not when a list full of them is presented to you? -- Renesis (talk) 03:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review notification
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Westfield Warrawong. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 20:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * To clarify the situation, a number of articles were speedy deleted, then undeleted by a single admin. You speedy deleted one of the articles.  GRBerry 21:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Manila airports
Yes, but airlines refer to it with different names for example South East Asian Airlines refer to Diosdado Macapagal International Airport as Angeles City. Asian Spirit, Asiana Airlines, Cebu Pacific and Hong Kong Airlines refer to the airport as Clark. Tiger Airways refers to the airport as Manila-Clark. While, AirAsia refers to the airport as Clark-Manila. So we should then refer to it as Clark because most airlines refer to the airport as Clark. -chris^_^ 08:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Date formats
Thanks for fixing my date format on the notability page -- I didn't know about that feature of showing the user's preferred format. Subsolar 10:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Notability (organizations and companies)
Notability (organizations and companies)

It has been proposed that the following criteria be removed from this guideline: 1. The commercial organization is listed on ranking indices of important companies produced by well-known and independent publications.3 2. The commercial organization's share price is used to calculate one or more of the major managed stock market indices.4 Note this is not the same as simply being listed on a stock market. Nor is it the same as being included in an index that comprises the entire market. The broader or the more specialized the index, the less notability it establishes for the company.

We are close to evaluating consensus, please join with us in the discussion. --Kevin Murray 04:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Eastern Air Lines
I've added this back into Category:Defunct airlines of the United States, the problem is that if you orphan it completely than there's no way to navigate to it from category space. -- Prove It (talk) 06:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * How do you feel about a Category:Companies with categories as a child of Category:Companies? Vegaswikian 06:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we'll probably want to do something like that eventually. I expect it might be named Category:Categories named after companies, to match the others like it. -- Prove It (talk) 14:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Veolia Water Solutions & Technologies
Hello. Could you please explain to me why you deleted Veolia Water Solutions & Technologies. It was listed as being Spam yet I feel that this is unfair. I provided a neutral introduction to the company and a list of its subsidiaries. My plan was to provide add further information on the company's patented technologies. Please explain where I went wrong. Shaunsummers 09:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you anti-Catholic or something?
Because I saw you nominated Category:Roman Catholic musicians for deletion Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 7. I suspect there is some bigotry involved, as you don't have the Jewish or Muslim musicians categories nominated for deletion. I'm still praying for you, that you may see the light. Tom Danson 22:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry about that.
You're not a bigot (Those folks who said "Delete" sure are though!). I'm sorry about this. Would you please forgive me? Tom Danson 22:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Glitter lamp
Thanks for the redirect. Although I've never heard of a glitter lamp I think your solution is just fine. Here is a WikiCookie for your trouble. --al95521 07:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:Airport frame
Hi. You gave me a little scare with those recent edits to Airport frame, as I was previewing an edit to an airport article and though I messed something up. Anyway, I'm not quite clear on what you were trying to fix, but if you let me know I might be able to help. -- Zyxw 09:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I was trying to get the templates out of Category:Airports since they are not really part of the encyclopedia. Vegaswikian 09:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I have removed Category:Airports from Airport frame and all the other templates associated with airport infoboxes: Airport title, Airport image, etc. This category being added is my fault: I originally did it in response to Airport infobox being tagged as uncategorized, then left it there when I later added the more appropriate Category:Transportation infobox templates. -- Zyxw 10:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Worldspan
Since you've followed up on one Worldspan-related edit by, is there any chance I could get you to follow up on the edit that I reference on Talk:Worldspan. I wish I could, but I'm just too easily accused of bias, given where I work. I'd rather someone else look at the text fo the edits and make the call with a more neutral outlook. -Harmil 20:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. -Harmil 21:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Power stations
I think the power stations in this category are categorized well. I am not very familiar with the U.S. energy sector, but I think it's right to categorize Moss Landing Power Plant as a gas-fired power station (advanced by used technology, but still in principle thermal power plant, which uses natural gas). Fibrominn could be categorized as a biofuel power station or biomass-fired power station (biofuel has little bit wider meaning than biomass). I don't knew if there is more articles about power plants using biofuels.Beagel 21:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I am going to be proposing a merge soon to put the Humpty Dumpty mess with Botts' dots back together ...
Hello:

Although most of your edits have been very good ones, I have to disagree with what you did with Botts' dots. I don't think Elbert Dysart Botts is significant enough to warrant a separate article from Botts dots. Furthermore, by cutting up my carefully drafted prose and then failing to redraft the severed pieces appropriately, you ended up creating two articles that don't really connect very well with each other. It's simply not clear from reading the Botts' dot article (that is, for persons who are neither experienced Wikipedia users nor roadgeeks) that the information about how the dots were actually created is hidden in the article on Mr. Botts himself. The article as it stands merely refers to the problem that warranted the dots' creation and the subsequent legislative mandate, but not how California got from point A to B. And the passage you copied into the Elbert Botts article is not long enough to warrant a "main article link/brief summary" section in the Botts' dot article.

If you don't object within a few weeks (or clean up both articles so that they actually make sense), I'm going to propose a merge of the two articles so Humpty Dumpty can be put back together. --Coolcaesar 07:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Extreme mastication
Why did you remove the speedy on this article? (diff) First, I don't see how that redirect is at all relevant, and second, that was a totally unrelated vandal's edit. You should be careful about editing things without first seeing what they do, who contributed, and where they link. -Mulder416 08:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It originally pointed to Horace Fletcher. Here's a little snippet from the article.  Besides, someone typing "extreme mastication" instead of "mastication" is implausible enough to be a speedy deletion in its own right. -Mulder416 08:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

wetlands
I know, but hesitated over that to see what other editors might do. In the 'wetlands by state' categories, I am going to combine all the items in the bogs, marshes and swamps of the state--there not being enough of any of these in a given state to justify separate categories for each--in my mind. As a result, the bogs, marches and swamps categories must still contain what they currently contain to provide the distintion they currently have. Thus, my hesitation over the wetlands articles that were not so categorized. Thanks Hmains 21:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

improper category deletions
You recently deleted Category:Cities in Turkish Kurdistan and Category:Villages in Turkish Kurdistan after closing the mass CFD. This seems improper to me; the result you gave was "No Consensus" and the deleted categories had been populated when the review began -- they were depopulated during the debate by advocates of deletion. You have implicitly endorsed this tactic. --Diyarbakır 08:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, they were empty at the time of the deletion for several days. So they were valid canidates for a speedy deletion.  If you believe that I should not have deleted these, then you can use Deletion review.  However I suggest that you wait for the naming issue on those categories to reach consensus.  Vegaswikian 08:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but by that logic I should have edited-wared over the depopulation of the categories.


 * I read an article once that pointed out that wikipedia is not a place to build an encyclopeda, but a place where you can go to have a fight. This is, to a large extent, true, and is unappealing. --Diyarbakır 08:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of (above_cats). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Diyarbakır 08:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It came out a bit of a mess; I will try and fix it. --Diyarbakır 08:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

And for your total joy, a different editor has asked for a deletion review of the ones that didn't get deleted, arguing that they should be deleted. Please do come to deletion review and let us know your thoughts (in both reviews) as to why the close was the way it was. (Since you aren't a regular, yes, you can endorse your own close.) GRBerry 19:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I was going to give you the default DR notification but somehow I don't feel its necessary. -- Cat out 19:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Please consider
revisiting |here, read my reply, and think about changing your position. Life is supposed to be interesting. Carptrash 08:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:CFD
Hi VW - Thanks for reverting the CfD page - I've made a compromise suggestion on the talk page which might be worth considering. Grutness...wha?  05:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Double Negative
Well, I know this is about 2 years after you made the request, but I updated the Double Negative (artwork) page to include geo coordinates and map abilities. So you can click on the Google Satelite map and it will show you where it is. I hope that helps you find it. Its cool to visit. The view from the top of the Mesa is amazing! --Clf23 22:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey Invitation
Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 00:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)talk to me

Category:Cities in the UTC timezone
This is the second time that you have removed information from the category. You've added some comments regarding the UTC timezone category in your edit summary indicating that I should read up on categories. Can you please provide a direct link to the material in question that pertains to our situation including a reference. I can't seem to find what you are talking business. --CyclePat 18:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

School address Template:Infobox Education in Canada
Obviously, anybody who considers something (a school, or anything with an address) to be notable, would consider the address worth including. Of course, if you don't think the school should be included, you don't want the adddress included. It seems your sole reason for the removal of the address field in this case, is your long standing position, of wanting to delete almost all school articles. Note, that while there was discussion on the talk page of what to include (like the postal code, which we agreed to exclude), you didn't say anything whatsoever there. Instead you just acted unilaterally (as usual) to harm a *large* number of articles at once. --Rob 07:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe the importance of location is project related. If a change is being proposed, we should ask for a consensus opinion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Education in Canada, particularly when it effects so many articles. There may be a point to it, but I can't see this working out for schools: a school's context is practically defined by its location.  Regards, --Jh12 09:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Lists of Numbered Highways
This is probably a ridiculous question, but could you please explain differently about redirects on dab pages? Thanks. Igo4U

An Invite to join Aviation WikiProject
The March 2007 issue of the Aviation WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 22:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Page deleted
Hi, I was wondering why our page was deleted? Titled "RNL Design" and deleted late Dec. thanks, RNL Architecture 22:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Not sure this is the right way to respond but the firm has designed several notable architecture projects during the last 50 years. We're referred to on Emaar's page, which has a lot of information about all of their projects. There are other architects on your site. What is the criteria for who is included? By the way, I couldn't get a login with RNL Design. We don't want to host our web site here, just offer information about the projects we designed. thanks. RNL Architecture 22:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, you win I guess, but there are several other articles written by third parties that I think proves RNL is notable.



RNL named one of Top 10 architecture firms to work for in US -

83-year old founder still active in architecture -

RNL named top architecure firm -

Just because an architect is not from New York or LA doesn't mean the work is not noteworthy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RNL Architecture (talk • contribs) 23:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC). sorry, forgot to sign RNL Architecture 23:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)RNL Architecture imfred 13:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

1 column or 3 columns
Hello

On your recent edit to List_of_Artists_under_the_Decca_Records_label, you made the 3 columns that were there reduced to a single (1) column. I believe that 3 columns look better. Is there a reason for this? Does it look better now? Would definitely appreciate return to 3 columns.imfred 13:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I wasn't having difficulty with my browser's rendering of one column. It was just that 3 columns gave a much neater lay-out than a long string of artists in one column. Think I actually inherited that lay-out when I entered two full new sections to that article. —imfred

When I inherited the lay-out there were forced and  instructions. I see you have substituted that with a column-count, which in my browser (IE6) renders one lo-o-ong column. The example you cite renders two columns.imfred 13:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Chicago & Philadelphia style consensus
Howdy, I'm doing an analysis of the votes on the Chicago and Philadelphia page moves at User:Agne27/City, State convention/Chicago & Philadelphia style "Consensus" with a discussion on the talk page about what this means about the page move process. You did not participate in the Philadelphia move, so I would like to confirm if I was correct in my assumption that you would have opposed it if you were aware. I would also like your general input on the discussion page about these moves. AgneCheese/Wine 19:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

re: Mercer Middle School
I notice you've switched the tag on this article because it's been there too long. Can you tell me the time limit for speedy deletes? Thnx --killing sparrows 23:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thnx. I notice on WP:CV at the top of the page there is no time frame mentioned, just to request speedy, can you point me to a better explanation of proper procedure? I run across alot of obvious copyvio while working on dead end pages. --killing sparrows 00:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

FRS Plus
Your speedy deletion of the FRS Plus page was an arbitrary decision you made. I request a coherent answer to why you feel this is not a "notable" product.Americanuck 05:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

...I'm not done with the article. There is plenty more to write about. The notability is the combination of anti-oxidants, vitamins, and caffeine into a single drink. This hasn't been done before. The drink was created by professors with PHD's, and they make claims that the drink has all sorts of benefits such as preventing cancer and Parkinson's. People will want to see if these claims are valid, and could come to Wikipedia to find independent research.Americanuck 05:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

How can I maintain a good article when within the hour it is created it is speedily deleted? Please restore it, so I can add the information that makes this article "notable". Americanuck 05:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of FRS Plus (antioxidant health drink). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Americanuck 05:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Women Writers
You recently commented on this CFD on Women Writers. The debate is now up on deletion review. Please comment.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  10:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Standard for 3 digit route shields
There is currently no consensus (that I can find anyway) for the shield size of the 3 digit routes shown in the list of highways numbered XXX. I have brought the issue of establishing a standard for these routes up in the talk page of the U.S. roads wikiproject. Please read my comment here. Basically, the only standard that I'm aware of in relation to this is the one for the Maryland wikiproject. As you can see here (in the routes junctioned section), the standard size for these shields in Maryland is 20px for the 1 and 2 digit routes and 25px for the 3 digit routes. As you find on the actual roads, the 3 digit route shields are bigger than the 2 digit route shields.

Lawry's
You removed category entries for the various locations, with the comment "Restauarant cats are for where it is based in and not for every location."

Well, OK, I suppose, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The names of the cats are "Restaurants in xxx", not "Restaurants originated in xx" or "Restaurants headquartered in xxx"... and it doesn't seem like the origin/headquarters city is all that interesting anyway. If you're in Las Vegas and hungry, shouldn't Category:Restaurants in Las Vegas give you some hints of places you might try?

(OTOH, the text on the cat page says "originating in".)

Jordan Brown 16:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Your point about the names of the restaurants in cats is a good one. However, the logic behind it is simple.  If these categories were used to list every location, the list of categories on the page could be longer then the article.  Also, wikipedia is not a travel guide.  There are other wikis for that purpose. Vegaswikian 19:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * (Let's keep this discussion here, in one place. I'll watch.)


 * Well, yes, for McDonald's that'd certainly be true, and even for lesser chains like Red Lobster, but that doesn't seem like a problem for a restaurant with only a handful of locations. (But where would the line be drawn?)


 * OTOH, is the list of all restaurants that "originate" in a particular city really interesting? I suppose it wouldn't be the most boring category in Wikipedia, but...


 * Perhaps the right answer is to link from Wikipedia off to some related (preferably WikiMedia) travel guide that *would* list all of the restaurants in a city. Shrug.  I have a hard time drawing the line between "encyclopedia" and "worthwhile information that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia".


 * Jordan Brown 20:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I have already started the discussion at cfd which is where this should be discussed. The discssion is located here. Vegaswikian 20:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Help Resolving a conflict
I have read the pages about this on wikipedia and I have came to you because you seem to be a person who knows how wikipedia is supposed to work and are most likely 100% neutral on this matter. I am involved in a rather intense edit war with two other editors of the article Miriam Rivera. In the last days the user User:Jokestress has quite reasonably asked for the article to be backed up with more reliable sources. Well I found them and that seems to have placated her. She has acted in 100% reasonable way in all of this. The problem arises in that she has asked in the spirt of resolving the conflict we were having other people who are not 100% neutral it seems to comment on the matter. These being the user User:Longhair and the userUser:Alison in particular who have not bothered to justify anything that they have done. Longhiar being an admin seems to feel no need to discuss anything and I feel is abusing her powers. Is there anything you can do? --Hfarmer 05:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Jetstar Asia Airways
The Suspended destinations list includes those destinations that were previously served by Jetstar Asia Airways, but is no longer so. Social Studiously 07:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Please archive this talk page
This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving.  V 6 0  VTalk · VDemolitions 22:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Danku
Wiesforden Marsenof Danku!

WP:USRD project page
Please see my $0.02 on that talk page.  V 6 0  VTalk · VDemolitions  ·  VRoads 01:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tags of Macspeech
Hi. I was just browsing the pages for speedy deletion and I noticed you tagged this with, among others, db-spam. While I do think the article falls under the db-corp criteria, it isn't really spam; the tone isn't that of an advertisement. The one should be enough. Crystallina 04:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Harrahs
Hi, I removed them because their dead links and I added the their Harrahs Websites to next to all of them. I don't know if you removed them. I'll later try to add the websites again. Thanks, B64

HP code
I reverted out this trivia section since that is not an encyclopedic heading. If the information is worth keeping, it should be included in that main article text. If that tidbit is true, the IATA code lists should be updated to include that previous use. In any case, if this is added back to the HP article, it should include a reference, otherwise it will be tagged needing one. Vegaswikian 02:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You really need to read up on wikipedia. I'd suggest sections like Trivia, WP:RS, WP:AIRLINES.  Vegaswikian 05:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you are correct that I should read up on aspects of Wikipedia in general, but perhaps I don't need to be educated regarding 'Trivia' as it relates to airlines. Authors of all the other airliner articles have spoken.  And they have overwhelmingly and have collectively decided to insert a Trivia section for all other airliner articles.  I can't say that there's something special about US Airways and America West that should allow them to be non-standard, such that only they exclude a trivia section, when all their peers have one.  Thanks.--Inetpup 03:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The University Computer Club
An editor added a reference and removed your prod tag at this article, but I felt that the reference did not satisfy your original prod concern. Since the tag was removed, I put the article up at AfD instead. Feel free to contribute at Articles for deletion/The University Computer Club. Thanks, UnfriendlyFire 01:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Entree and Hors d'oeuvre
Hi, you merged these two articles, but if you follow the Discuss link in "It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into Hors d'œuvre. (Discuss)", you will see that there has in fact been discussion on that Talk page, which is unanimously opposed to the merger, yet you went ahead with the merger without even contributing to the discussion. Could you please join the discussion?

An Hors d'oeuvre is a different concept from an Entree (in the sense of "first course"). In a full meal in France, you have Hors d'oeuvre (a.k.a. amuse-bouche, amuse-gueule, appetizer), then Entree (a.k.a. premier plat = first course), then Main Course (then Cheese then Dessert). In Italy, they are called Antipasto, Primo, Secondo. U.S. usage is of course somewhat different, since "Entree" has come to mean "Main Course", but that's another matter.... --Macrakis 14:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I think it makes sense to keep entrée for the (UK/international) sense of "first course", with a dabnote for "main course" and a dab page for all the rest. After all, EN Wikipedia shouldn't assume that US usage is the default. As for "entrée" in the sense of "an entrée into society" etc., that currently doesn't have an article, and I don't think it will ever need one -- that is a wiktionary entry, not an encyclopedia entry.

On the other hand, although it might make logical sense to merge hors d'oeuvre (which already includes appetizer) and antipasto, I suspect that there will be resistance to that. --Macrakis 20:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion request
I've removed the csd-a7 on Winner Winner Chicken Dinner because it does not meet the speedy criteria. I would recommend going to AfD, as it has been unsourced for a long period of time, but the speedy doesn't apply. i kan reed 05:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Category moves
You recently closed a discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 27 that resulted in the move of Category:Japanese executions to Category:People executed by Japan. I had an (errant) discussion with User:Radiant! about this move, and I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look at that and give me your opinion on the best way to proceed. It has resulted in some articles being moved into a category that doesn't apply to them. The relevant talk is at User talk:Dekimasu. Thanks for your time! Dekimasu よ! 12:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Category talk:Cities in Kurdistan
Hello; I've encountered a problem described over at Category talk:Cities in Kurdistan. As I am not all too experienced with categories; what would be the appropriate steps to take? I'll revert his changes for now, but he'll probably re-revert it... what to do? Thanks in advance. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 15:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Mccarran CRF
The system does exist. I helped design and build it. Unless a news agency writes about it, you will never hear about it. Or, you could rent a car from one of those four companies and see for yourself.

Categories on redirect pages
Please don't add categories on a redirect page (as per your edits on Domino Records, for example). See Redirect: ''Redirects should not normally contain categories that would fit on the target page because it can result in duplicate listings of the same page within a category. Relevant categories should be moved to the main page where the redirect is pointing.'' Thanks! Lugnuts 18:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Property types
Thanks for taking a look at and tweaking the notes on Property type (National Register of Historic Places). A Wikismile. : ). IvoShandor 09:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Level I trauma center
Why the worldwide tag? I believe that someone pointed out that this classification is US only. As such, the article does not need that tag. Vegaswikian 07:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Then it should be removed from DXRAW 09:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I suggest they should be renamed to include the other countries if you think they should stay on the template. DXRAW 09:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont see how why they should stay on that template in there current form. What do you think? DXRAW 11:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Former routes
There's another discussion about it at Talk:San Francisco International Airport, so I invite you to give your opinion on whether airport articles should have former route information. (I see you've commented on it in the past.) Thanks --Matt 12:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Diller
The Diller article had a lot more detailed information than the pickleball article, that's why I proposed it for merger. Your deletion means that info is lost. Would you consider reverting and trying to merge? I have no problem with deleting Diller as it does not assert notability as a company, though perhaps a notability tag allows the author to add information indicating notability (perhaps they are the only pickleball supplier in the US, which might lead to the independent, non trivial coverage required to establish notability). Scarykitty 04:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Question about deletion
I am wondering why you went ahead and deleted a page Desire Resort - Cancun even after it was modified to appear almost identical to another existing page and a dispute tag was added to the page. What happened to the contacting the author ???? Try and play by your rules, but it appears there an many different rule books.

Jtampa 05:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

KHDS-LP
Please do not remove CSD tags from articles. Use hangon instead, if you contest the deletion. The article does not assert its importance. In fact, the article is a single sentence, that simply says what the station is, and its not even a stub. It does not even say it is liscensed. RogueNinja talk  14:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Oops
I seem to have bought into Talk:Las Vegas all because I followed a link to "Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas" and found the ugly RFD banner :-/ It looks like a few people might need to fire up AWB and Popups next weekend. --Scott Davis Talk 14:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

MoS?
I noticed you delinked 1993 in the MGM Grand Las Vegas article per MoS. What is MoS? TerraFrost 21:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation! TerraFrost 22:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

deleting categories
I think that your suggestion that it was appropriate to put a subcategory of Jewish sportspeople to a deletion vote was wrongheaded. We have addressed all of the issues raised already, by the same editor who now raises them again. I think ProveIt is abusing Wikipedia. He has already suggested that another category of Jewish athlete be deleted -- Jewish Fencers. His suggestion was not accepted. He raises no new arguments here. It is a waste of everyone's time to therefore have to go through the same process, to reach the same conclusion. This discussion also took place with the category Jewish sportspeople. People should not be allowed to waste others' time in this manner. --Epeefleche 02:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't you think that people who have already opined on the issue in prior votes on the major or subcategory deserve to know about this? And don't you think that the fact that I also left a message for the fellow who started the delete discussion is of note?

Please respond to my prior above comment as well. Your comment did not address it. --Epeefleche 05:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:pnc nominated for deletion
See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Template:pnc for the discussion, which will certainly spill over into larger issues. Your thoughts would be appreciated. --Kevin Murray 23:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Rougeau wrestling family
Apparently I missed including Category:Rougeau wrestling family on the CFD page. The result was delete all so can this missed cat also be deleted or does it need to go through the process again? Otto4711 00:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Oregon Zip Codes
Vegas, I like the table you created for 979 in the Oregon zip codes. I started inputting and right away ran into a problem. The Adrian post office was founded in 1911 with the name Riverview. It was changed to the current name in 1919. Some post offices (same office) changed names 4 times. This would be a problem more specifically addressed if we were tackling all of the post offices that were ever in Oregon (post offices started in the late 1800's, zip codes came around in 1963). All I'm doing is trying to track all the zip codes that have ever graced Oregon's soil. Maybe date assigned should be removed as it opens too big a can of worms. Splits in zip codes rarely happen, though there are a few cases. Perhaps the following categories:

Zip, Post office, Other communities served (or something to that effect), Closed to (where I can write in a date if known), and Notes where anything else relevant can go.

Thanks for your efforts at saving Oregon Zip Codes! Bdag 14:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Here in Oregon we rarely have new zip codes. To have a 'date zip added' category would be useless as most of the zips would have a date of 1963.  Very few have been added since then.  In consolidation, one of the prior zips is used.  This is why I suggested having the comments area to note such rare events.  I'm not sure how I feel about putting the zip in the 'closed to' box.  For instance, when the North Portland branch (97043) closed out to Portland, which zip code should I use?  That post office closed to the Kenton branch of Portland, but Kenton serves 97211 and 97217.  Is it more significant to say that it was closed to 97211 or 97217?  Unfortunately, 97043 did not align perfectly with either zip code.  I would prefer to say which post office name it closed to, whether that be a one station city, or a particular branch of that city.  This is the way the official zip code guides do it and it makes for easier reading. Bdag 20:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see, you didn't say that you were creating a table style for all cases. Given that, fine, go ahead and add whatever categories, but I suggest making the heading titles short.  So what happens when the table is used to expand to a history of post offices, and not just zip codes?  Zip codes only came into use in 1963.  We would HAVE to say that in 1945 post office A closed out to post office B.  We certainly couldn't reference it with zip codes.  In any event, do what you like on whichever state page you choose to maintain, but we really should use names, with or without zip codes in the 'closed to', 'split from', 'merged with' or 'threw pies at' categories. Bdag 21:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I like where this is going. I changed the format of 'closed to' to City, Zip as per USPS format.  Also, I'm still not satisfied with the 'established' box.  This is open to interpretation of either the zip code or the post office.  The post office could have been established 1896, and the zip given 1963.  Or the post office could have been established 1906 and closed 1907 (if the table eventually includes all post offices).  Or the post office AND zip code could have been established in 2006.  Should it be 'PO established' and 'Zip established'?  What about Denio?  This PO was established in Oregon in 1888, and then we lost it to you :) in 1950.  In 1963 it gained its zip.  When was it established?  Food for thought... Bdag 23:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review of Category:Women television writers
See Deletion review/Log/2007 April 21. Having nominated the category for deletion review, I am notifying all those who participated in the original CFD, plus the closing admin and the independent reviewer. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic music
As you sort of asked what it was maybe these links would help

--T. Anthony 04:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cecilian movement article at Encyclopedia Britannica
 * From Sacred Song to Ritual Music: Twentieth-Century Understandings of Roman Catholic Worship Music
 * Catholic Jukebox (More contemporary)

Professional Information Security Association
Further information have been provided in regards to the association page. Please continue with the discussion. I'm waiting for further feedbacks from the contributors. Mailcpathetsang  Talk  4:55 2007/04/25

Not a problem if the early instruction has been clearer. Mailcpathetsang  Talk  5:17 2007/04/25

Re: Las Vegas
I removed the template. John Reaves (talk) 01:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

IATA airline codes
Hi, I noticed you progressively started moving all the IATA airline codes to a unique page called Airline codes which can be sorted by whatever column one likes. There is one major problem however: that page takes an eternity to load, even on a high speed connection like I have! AirOdyssey (Talk) 14:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Airline codes
I don't know if you lag but some people with slow or old computers (not me but it lagged somehow) lagged when opening that article you modified. I suggest that you should revert back to the old format and keep the IATA airline designator article instead of merging with the ICAO designators which results in an article too big. -- Irfan Faiz  07:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Dutchess Mall
Just a friendly little note to let you know that I gave this article a significant rewrite. It's no longer a stub/directory entry; also, there are several references, and assessment of notability (it's on land that's in the National Register of Historic Places; also, the mall's flea market was the subject of a 2006 documentary). Ten Pound Hammer • (((Actions • Words))) 02:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Moulin Rouge
Jeez, I'm just trying to add some more info on the fire. Isn't that what Wiki is all about?

I don't understand what you mean about it messing up the heading, as far as I could see it didn't change anything other than to make the phrase "a fire" in the history section into a link to the LVRJ page on the fire.

If I'm not doing something right, would you just add it?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/moulin/

Thanks.

I get it now
I now see what you meant about the heading being messed up.

My mistake, but couldn't you have just fixed that heading instead of reverting the page and taking off my link? Seems like that would have been easier to do? Or, how about just sending a message saying "Hey your change messed up the heading, could you fix that..." instead of reverting?

Just a thought there. I'm trying to improve the article by adding a link to more information about the fire. Isn't that what Wiki is all about? Improving and adding?

Firebraun 06:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

And...
Thanks for making the fix. Appreciated.

Firebraun 06:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

International Tourism
How about something like this instead. It still needs to be set out properly. Tourism Mindys12345 10:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi, I don't know if it's done on purpose, but it seems your signature didn't have your name in it here. I assume you put 5 tildes instead of 4, but just in case, since it's important for people to be able to leave you feedback when you warn them, I wanted to make you aware of it ;). Cheers! -- lucasbfr talk 08:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

North Avenue Article
Hello, you recently proposed speedy deletion for my article on North Avenue. I did my best to address your concerns on the article's talk page. I have also discussed this issue with other admins, and they seemed to agree with my reasoning. If you are going to reintroduce your proposal for speedy deletion, please address why you disagree with the discussion already extant on the article's talk page. Your advice and insight are appreciated! Chantoke 20:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hopi Buttes Volcanic Field‎
Thanks for doing the redirect, but I think there was a misunderstanding. Hopi Buttes Volcanic Field‎ should have been merged with and redirected to Hopi Buttes volcanic field‎ (just with differnet case) and not Coliseum Maar. I don't know how to fix that or I would. Thanks for your help. --Burntnickel 22:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fix. The way things stand now isn't what I had intended, but I think it makes more sense the way you changed things than what I was asking for.  Thank you!  --Burntnickel 00:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Fudge (Hair Products)
Why was the page "Fudge (Hair Products)" deleted? Did you even look at the talk page? And please could you at least tell me why on my talk page when you delete something that I have made? Thanks. Exothermic Reaction 23:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I have waited almost four days now, have you read my message? Thanks. Also, I think that there was absolutely no need to delete it, and if you thought that something was wrong with it, you could have removed that part. Thanks again. Exothermic Reaction 17:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. Exothermic Reaction 08:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I have replied to your reply - please reply ;) Exothermic Reaction 15:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, please reply again, as what you have been describing is not at all what I mean! Thanks. Exothermic Reaction 18:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:All-America City
Howdy. Do you know how this category was deleted? I see that you listified it, but I can't find any discussion about it. As far as I can tell, the only mention is at Category talk:All-America City, and the one editor calling for its deletion there also tagged the category with Listify. I'm not terribly concerned about this category, because it was probably more trouble than it's worth (categories for cities kept getting added instead of their main articles), but I want to make sure that we're not deleting categories out of process. - EurekaLott 23:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Resorts
After a quick look I'm not sure what you're seeing as the problem. Everything seems to be decently cross-categroized. Maybe I'm missing something. Otto4711 02:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Guidelines for Cargo carriers
Hi, Could you comment on the proposal for setting up Guidelines for Cargo carriers. Thanks, → AA (talk • contribs) — 13:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Settlements in Kurdistan
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Settlements in Kurdistan. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Cat chi? 06:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Mega Movers
Please restore Mega Movers as a subpage of mine so I may await a reply about obtaining copyright allowance. --Eερ² (T 21:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Envelopes
You recently made edit to a number of philatelic article adding this category to things that I would debate with you are now inappropriately categorised, in particular aerogram is definitely not an envelope. Also you removed the stub tag from cover with this edit. It really is still a stub because it is very much a surface knowledge article. Cheers ww2censor 01:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

London Airports
I have gone for a voluntary merger. Simply south 11:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Edits to Invader ZIM
Hi there, you recently made an edit to Invader ZIM article with the edit summary Don't include user pages in main name space. You put nowiki markup around 2 navboxes and the categories in the article. Could you explain why you did that, thanks. ●BillPP (talk 13:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't know how that happened. A user had transcluded this page on a sandbox page and the user page was being included in main space categories.  I edited the user page and somehow would up editing the actual page.  I fixed this but still don't know how it happened.  Thanks. Vegaswikian 18:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Little context in Category:Airlines of Palestine
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Category:Airlines of Palestine, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Category:Airlines of Palestine is very short providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Category:Airlines of Palestine, please affix the template  to the page, and put a note on its talk page. This bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Category:Airlines of Palestine itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. Thanks. --Android Mouse Bot 2 00:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Iron Chef
Please see the discussion that I posted at User talk:Otto4711 regarding this category's deletion, which I think was not handled appropriately. At this point, I am going to WP:AGF and wait for an explanation. --After Midnight 0001 00:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

The Strip Podcast as External Link
I use Wikipedia all the time but have never tried to edit it yet. It looks a bit daunting! The Strip Podcast contains a lot of interviews about the Strip. Interviews are predominantly of the owners/ managers of The Strip Hotel Casinos and artists performing at shows on The Strip. Could this be made into an external link ? http://www.thestrippodcast.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsuchiyama (talk • contribs)

Flight International, Directory: World Airlines
My entries are derived not from a book, but an aviation magazine (one of the best known and most authoritative in the world). I am trying to update over 1600 airline articles from 3 editions of the magazine. Obviously this is very time consuming and the reference added is the best that time allows in the circumstances. Ardfern 22:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * See citation in Ishtar Airlines - does this better meet the apparent need? Its the same as what I had, but in cite news format (there is no specific author, in case you think that's missing). Let me know, so I can get on Ardfern 22:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Osek
Thanks for removing the speedy, I'm doing some work on it as the history shows. Nick mallory 06:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Speedy tags on Prime healthcare services
Just a note, would you mind only putting one speedy tag on a page please? It still get's listed the same whether it has one tag or five hundred for deletion, and it makes the deleting admins job longer if he/she has to read through 4 or 5 tags. Any questions don't hesitate to give me a shout and keep up the good work. Khu kri 07:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Non-articles in article space issues
I've moved your airline code "sub-articles" into the template space, as otherwise we'll have an infinite loop wherein my bot tags them as uncategorised, someone categorises them, and you remove the categories. Or else I try to guess some rule for creating some sort of exception for a new class of article-space articles that aren't articles, which seems potentially open-ended if this sort of entity is kept in that namespace. There's also the issue of having "articles" that don't even display properly on their own due to the way they're coded. I'm not sure the situation-as-just-changed is ideal either, but having non-templates in the template space seems somehow less problematic than having non-articles in that one. Alai 02:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Trouble with that is that the article space doesn't have subpages any more: for example, Airline codes/Y isn't a subpage of Airline codes, it's a different top-level page, that just happens to have a "/" in the title.  (That wasn't always the case, and in most of the namespaces, it still isn't.)  There's probably some need for an additional namespace for this sort of thing, plus other "article-like" pages that aren't articles in their own right (such as article sandboxes and temporary working versions).  Alai 12:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Booze cruise
I see you've added a "tone" tag to this article. Other editors disagree with you. It would help if you could detail the points that concern you, so that they can be discussed and/or dealt with. Thanks. BTW, one of the problems with references for a colloquialism is that it is informal, however, in the UK, a "booze cruise" is a commonly understood term. Look forward to your response. Folks at 137 18:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Colony Capital
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Colony Capital, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Colony Capital fits the criteria for speedy deletion for the following reason: 2nd link is a spam link, making the need for this disambig page moot To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Colony Capital, please affix the template  to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Colony Capital itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 15:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Spa
I have made a second attempt to edit the "origins" paragraph. There is, I think, a need to emphasise the dubiety of the acronym theory - it had been copied from that page to the SPA page as fact. -- Ian Dalziel 05:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Undeletion FYI
I assume this isn't controversial, but FYI, I undeleted Talk:Vicki Smith. Seems worthwhile keeping that around as clarification of why the article was deleted. Friday (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Crown Las Vegas
Thanks much for the cleanup on the Crown Las Vegas page...... I promise to work on my, as Shaquille O' Neal would say, skilz. Spitwater 15:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Borough categories
I'm contacting you because you left a comment at: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_June_9I believe the categorisation across wikipedia should be consistent, and if you check the US categorisation they use the full county/borough names i.e. the Madison county category is called 'Madison County' as opposed to 'Madison'. Since this system is already established for US places the UK one should follow it because i) to be consistent with an already established system and ii)  it makes the difference between the county/borough and the town clear. 88.104.86.191 09:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Category in Sydney Coach Terminal
Here is the diff / Check it out]--AdamJWC 09:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Anif Palace
hi,

you added a clean up tag to the article Anif Palace but I do not really understand what you want to be cleaned up? please contact me on my discussion page thx. --Louisana 20:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry about the spelling error but I changed it immediately, you're just too quick for me. I changed a couple of things about the article but I would greatly appreciate a proof reading since I am not a native speaker of English. --Louisana 23:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. Do you think it's fine now or is anythign wrong/missing? --Louisana 03:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing protected pages
Re this edit of yours:  Please don't edit pages which have been protected due to a dispute. It's my understanding that the only reason Template:Trivia was edit-protected was because of a dispute/edit war. Therefore, the only appropriate actions are either to (a) remove the protection because the dispute is over, or (b) leave the page alone because the dispute is continuing. Thanks. --Coppertwig 17:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (Note that someone on the talk page there has said "I'd like to request that this change be undone. ".) --Coppertwig 17:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Re your reply on my talk page: I replied here on the article talk page. There are now at least two people objecting to the editing of the protected template:  myself and the person I mentioned above.  --Coppertwig 18:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologize for using too confrontational a tone. I figure what you did could be considered technically within the rules or in a gray area.  The main problem was that after you did it there was some more disagreement:  it didn't have wiki-consensus in the sense that after it was changed, someone objected. --Coppertwig 21:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to apologize again. Apparently there may be a reason for the page to be protected even if the dispute is over.  The situation is more complex and subtle than I thought.  --Coppertwig 15:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Interstate 215 (Nevada) Changes
That's a tricky one. The SR-146 signs were still up on parts of I-215 when I moved out of Las Vegas in 2005. I couldn't be sure if they had been taken down yet. Nonetheless, SR-146 is officially removed from I-215 whether the signs are down or not. Unfortunately, Nevada DOT is sloppy about this and other examples of the same problem exist on other highways. Maybe we can reconcile accuracy and reality by something to the effect of "SR-146 has been officially removed from I-215 by Nevada DOT but signs still were posted as of 2007"? Pcp125 02:16, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Every NDOT Mileage Log since January 2001 has listed the western terminus of I-215 at I-15. Various publications from Clark County Public Works (and their website in the past) have also stated in one form or another: "This sign [picture of CC-215 shield] identifies the beltway facilities controlled by Clark County and extend west of I-15." I do not recall ever personally seeing any I-215 shields west of I-15 on the beltway. If the signs had existed, one would question why signage on the I-15 ramps to the beltway merely stated "Decatur Blvd" instead of "I-215 West" prior to the opening of the 215 frontage roads. When the frontage roads opened, the "Decatur Blvd" signs were changed to "CC-215 West" and the CC-215 shield was added to exit and advanced mileage signs on the I-15.

The county has always maintained that the beltway was built with local dollars, and not with any federal funds. I'm not sure if state or federal funds were used on the I-15 interchange or not, but its unlikely that federal dollars were spent to extend the beltway from I-15 to Decatur given that FHWA doesn't even recognize current I-215 as an interstate highway on their website. Ljthefro 12:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Fujifilm FinePix cameras
I've nominated List of Fujifilm FinePix cameras, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that List of Fujifilm FinePix cameras satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/List of Fujifilm FinePix cameras and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of List of Fujifilm FinePix cameras during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.Plm 209 (talk • contribs) 11:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Haida Gwaii Islands Queen Charlotte
Hello... sorry to bug you, but I just wanted to see what the story was with that page. (I had several not-so-nice messages from the creator after a redirect because of the content fork, and as such the explanation on the deletion log concerns me.) Did the editor file some sort of complaint, or post a speedy delete. or what? I'd appreciate any information you can provide. Thanks. --Ckatz chat spy  07:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. Again, sorry to bother you about it - when I saw the comment, I wasn't concerned about you, but instead that perhaps some sort of action had been filed against me by the editor. What you've explained makes perfect sense. On a related note, I'd appreciate any input you might have as to how I handled things. From what I can see, the page was a pretty clear-cut redirect (or delete). It is about the Queen Charlotte Islands/Haida Gwaii, for which there is already an article (Queen Charlotte Islands). It has some information about the Haida people, who are covered in detail in Haida. It has no references, is written in a non-encyclopedic manner, and closely parallels the information at the PureWest and Blue Water Adventures web sites. The editor in question (BCR123) has also been cautioned by two different editors for adding inappropriate external links for a QCI-based tourism company. Thoughts? --Ckatz <sup style="color:green;">chat <sub style="color:red;">spy  09:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. In this case, it wasn't a content dispute so much as a article fork, created and edited solely by the editor in question, that sprang up shortly after he/she was reverted/cautioned for adding spam links. I don't think it is AN/I material... just a series of insults and insinuations. There comes a point where you get fed up with trying to be nice, and I'd prefer to ignore the editor rather than see the situation devolve. Thanks again. --Ckatz <sup style="color:green;">chat <sub style="color:red;">spy  19:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hoyt (company)
This is not a suitable candidate for CSD as it asserts notability. May I suggest you consider a prod? Spartaz Humbug! 11:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Trivia
I hope you don't perceive my actions as slighting your attempts to achieve consensus at Template:Trivia. I agree that the change you made on 17 June seemed to have consensus at that time. It would have been better if the opposing party had spoken up before then, but the opposition they've expressed since suggests to me that consensus was ultimately not achieved.

I also agree with you that the template should not be used at the top of the page, but again, I am not certain this position represents consensus. I also feel the "opposition" has displayed a frustrating degree of dogmatism. Nonetheless, I'd like to engage them as much as I can in seeking out a common ground instead of having to go back to protecting the template on one Wrong Version or another.--Father Goose 00:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

National Airlines (N7)
Hey Vegaswikian, do you know if National served Reno/Tahoe International Airport? An anon made an edit to the article and I don't know if it's false or not...just wondering if you knew? Sox 23 01:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Lecong Furniture Market2
Ok I agree with you about the naming conventions but the place's name of the wholesale market is  Shunde, China Furniture Wholesale Market (name after translation from chinese to english) instead of Lecong Furniture Market because Lecong is just part of that wholesale center in Shunde, China.

Thank you Felinnchew1

Please reconsider your vote at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_July_23
I tried to deal with your stated reason for deletion for Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_July_23. Please re-consider your vote based on my edits diff diff. I have made many similar edits and more are to follow. In addition please review my arguments voiced there, among others that we should not remove the category former Muslims etc. because it is not a defining characteristic of some people, though it is for e.g. Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Following the same reasoning we should not delete the category:painters only because it is not a defining characteristic for some people, like Adolf Hitler. Andries 10:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC

Mall AFD table
I would like to see the former AFD listings archived, perhaps along with much of the early material through say July 2007, and keep the AFD table. If you think a subpage of the discussion page would be a good place, feel free. Just let me know the link.

Deleted my article on Georgi Vodka
I asked for a reasonable explanation as to why you don't see a problem with the other 30+ drink stubs on every brand of vodka listed on Wikipedia, but for a famous brand with a reputable source you delete it. You don't seem to be to Wikisavvy