User:Victuallers/Archive5

Template Talk:Did you know
Can you please be more specific? I don't understand what the problem with this reference is. --Muhandes (talk) 22:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

UK Community Notice - IRC meeting
Dear Wikipedian,

This is the first of what will hopefully be a regular notice to help bring together the UK community so that you can be involved in some amazing things. To kick things off, there will be a UK community IRC meeting at 1800 UTC, December 7, 2010 to discuss the future growth and developement of Wikimedia UK. Without huge community support and involvement, the chapter cannot be successful and to get the most out of it, get involved.

For information on the community IRC meeting please go here

More to come about:
 * Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Events
 * 1st Annual UK Wiki-conference
 * Trustee interest meeting - an event for those community members with even just a fleeting interest in becoming trustees of Wikimedia UK.

Many Thanks
 * Joseph Seddon
 * User:Seddon

Delivered by WMUKBot (talk) on 05:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ashbourne Hall
Materialscientist (talk) 12:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

UK IRC community meeting
Just a quick reminder about the IRC meeting at 1800 UTC tonight to bring together the Wikimedia community in the UK to help the growth and success of the UK chapter and community activities. For information see Community_IRC_meetings


 * Many Thanks
 * Joseph Seddon


 * User:Seddon

Delivered by WMUKBot (talk) on 17:29, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Richard Sharp (politician)
Hi Roger ! remember me ? you gave me, as a novice, lots of help and encouragement when putting the Richard Sharp article together some while ago. I have written no further major articles but made spasmodic additions to various other pieces. I just noticed that the pastel portrait of Sharp has been removed and I wondered if you could tell me why ? I know the artist, Margaret Cairns was also puzzled. You may recall that the single unique, master drawing of Sharp is closely guarded at the Bodleian but Cairns work, taken from it, is quite a good likeness. Maybe you can get it replaced or I can help overcome any difficulties that may have arisen? Anyway, all good wishes for now,and I hope I am contacting you properly. Mariakinnaird (talk) 18:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Charlton Monypenny
Thanks for the input on the article and the DYK. He's quite an interesting character. FruitMonkey (talk) 23:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Whittaker (botanist)
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Samuel Lucas
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Darwin family tree
Anne Elizabeth Darwin died 1851 not 1951. Kittybrewster &#9742;  15:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * . I can't fix it. Kittybrewster &#9742;  16:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello Victuallers. Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia recently. I'm still getting to grips with how the site works, but have started with some basic editing, which has proved satisfying. And thanks too for the helpful links - hopefully it won't take long before I can attempt something more elaborate (maybe uploading a picture or starting new headings). Again, thanks. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Andrea Crestadoro
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Impulsoria
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Faberge_Museum
Hello. I added Wikiproject Museums to Faberge_Museum. Since you are a member of this project, would you mind giving it a rating? There may be possible DYK material here as well but I'm not sure how to develop it.--v/r - TP 16:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I got a notice on my talk page that this article made DYK today.  I just wanted to thank you for doing the work to get it there.  This is the first time I've been involved at all in a DYK and it's kind of exciting for me.  Thanks again!--v/r - TP 22:04, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tweak, and merry newtonmas to you too!


Ironholds (talk) wishes you a Merry Newtonmas, recognising that, unlike other historical figures, Newton was born on 25 December! May this be a time of peace, joy and gravity.

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to your friends' talk pages.

Prep areas
Hi ... done as far as possible, but P4 still needs one more. The one under the 24th Dec heading will need to go in P1, I believe. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 12:51, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK preps
Nah, tipped my toes in, got a feel for how people deal with each other and the topics, but I am not contributing to censorship. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 14:51, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Pick your battles. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 14:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC) No thx Victuallers (talk) 15:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly, thats what I am doing. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 15:01, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Note with DYK credits
Hi Victuallers... I saw (and posted) in this thread. FYI, I was the nominator for that article. May I suggest that requests to help in the DYK prep areas and queues to editors receiving their first ever credit are inappropriate? Encouraging participation is admirable, but it is best directed at those of us with the experience to make positive contributions. Regards, EdChem (talk) 15:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK participation
Merry Christmas to you too!

I posted twice in the December 18th DYK suggestions. I had imagined that any alterations necessary to bring a new article up to standard would be the responsibility of the person who originally wrote the article. Your response "Be bold" to my Fabergé Museum comment suggests I am wrong. Is it in fact the responsibility of someone who chooses to comment on a suggestion, to make improvements themselves? I ask because I made some improvements to Gillellus inescatus, another nomination for December 18th, but I am unsure whether I have brought it up to the required standard. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Haven Schauffler
Materialscientist (talk) 18:01, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Reversion
What exactly was the idea |here? This is not how you deal with an edit conflict, if that is what it was. Please restore my comments & add the diff on my talk. Seasons Greetings! Johnbod (talk) 01:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The other bit had a got rather overtaken by subsequent edits I suppose. Johnbod (talk) 16:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fabergé Museum
Orlady (talk) 20:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Appreciations
And thank you in turn. Happy Holiday!  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q.

Newsletter
Hi,

I have been sketching something for the newsletter at my sandbox based a chat with Charles Matthews at the last London meet-up. I think it's a bit too generic, as the King of DYKs, would you like to give me some pointers? Hope you've been having lots of fun over the holidays. Fæ (talk) 13:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for my DYK notification. It is my number 50!!! Jaespinoza (talk) 00:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Saint Alkmunds Way Footbridge‎
Thanks for your enthusiastic & value added additions, between us we will make Derby a more Noteworthy place Steve Bowen (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Saint Alkmunds Way Footbridge
I've okayed the article in most ways; however, I'm opposed to its going to the Main Page in its current condition, since it has no intro section. Could you please add an intro and then respond to my comments at T:TDYK? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 03:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for William Gullick
~ a week to wikipedia's birthday. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 11:33, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK Queue 4
Hi Victuallers. Looks like there's some stray text at the top of Queue 4, can you take a look? 28bytes (talk) 21:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, someone else fixed it. 28bytes (talk) 22:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

New DYK rules
I recently wrote new articles on John Fryatt and Paul Pyant. I would have nominated them for DYK before, but the new DYK rules have discouraged me from doing so. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message. I think DYK will probably turn into a small group of folks reviewing each others' nominations.  But I guess the smaller number of nominated articles will be more thoroughly reviewed, which is good.  But I'm pretty sure I will stop submitting new articles to DYK.  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

An Experiment on a Bird in the Air Pump
As the article explains (near the end) this was on loan to Derby 1912-1947, before Wright became fashionable again, but definitely belongs to the NG. Good luck with the project - I was talking about it with Harry Potter at the meetup today. Johnbod (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, there is an acquisition credit in the NG catalogue which seems definitive. Fæ (talk) 03:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

New article patrol
I would like some advice on the sort of standards that are being looked for when patrolling new articles.

Ancient Kingdom of Arakan is an interesting article but not laid out in normal Wikipedia style. I wondered whether it was copied from somewhere else - the text mentions figures but there are no figures - but did not know how to check that and the references are very strangely arranged. I left a message but did not know whether this was correct.

TERRATEL also has problems. I doubted whether the subject was notable, the article name is in capitals and it reads like an advertisement. I marked it but really thought it unsuitable for inclusion at all. What do you think?

Of course, I could leave such awkward new articles for more experienced editors to deal with. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Regards, Rock drumALT 15:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've replied again. Regards, Rock drumALT 18:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

BL Philatelic DYK
Hi, if you have a moment could you take a peek at Template talk:Did you know? I'm a noob at DYKs so it might be easily tweaked to be more appropriate. Fæ (talk) 14:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

High Sheriffs of Derbyshire
Thanks for the note. The list says: "*1454: Sir John Griesley of Griesley." As anyone knows who has examined old texts, you are quite correct: orthography varied wildly. However, it doesn't mean that because something was misspelled in an early text that it must continue to be spelled incorrectly, when the correct spelling is known. In this case, there is no 'Griesley', Derbyshire. The nearest candidate is indeed Gresley, which in fact produced one Sir John Gresley, who served as MP for Derbyshire in the same time frame. In this source, you'll notice the same misspelling of 'Griesley,' which is equated to that of the family of Gresley of Gresley. As there is no 'Griesley' in Derbyshire, and as the name identifies the man as 'Sir John Griesley,' it's clear that the person to whom the source refers is the MP Sir John Gresley of Gresley. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:41, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And indeed this source places the correct man in the correct office at the correct time and place. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Saint Alkmund's Way Footbridge
HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   06:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I answered
... on my talk page. And rew D alby 23:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry I fell silent. I'm back now (see my talk page). And rew D alby  14:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Matlockite
Orlady (talk) 06:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Bain
Have you considered adding both the original and the cropped version of the Bain images? Here is what I do: File:Cutting 5375681482 dd9fba2eaa o.jpg, scroll to bottom. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 03:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC) THx Richard - yes I do when I have time but sometimes I leave it to those who follow Victuallers (talk) 17:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Silk throwing
Greetings from Rochester. Seeking a little relaxation I started to look a Lombe's Mill from the point of view of its significance to the design of the later cotton mills, and the consequent influence on and of Silk throwing, which I then discovered was an article that I had started earlier. Well, I had the Belper North book so I had most of the core data- but the rest was online. I could however do with a some input now from some local sources- for a topic that is so important one gets to feel pretty lonely. I see that you are working in cooperation with the Derby Museums and the Sill Mill is due to be closed in March, would it be possible to do a thorough photo blitz on all silk related items in the museum before it is too late- I haven't been so I don't know what is there. Engravings (I believe 1727 and 1797) are also of interest.

Clem

As you do DYKs you may find several in Lombe's mill.

Clem --ClemRutter (talk) 16:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for fixing the beer refs on Glischrochilus, got a bit too busy to browse the other refs myself, heh. But yeah, thanks. :) -- Obsidi ♠ n Soul  06:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Don Charles
I know we do not 'know' each other, but you might have seen my user name (my own name as it turns out) around here. The above new article was created by me and, in the past, I personally would have put it up for DYK. I've had over 50 DYKs in my time, a fairly modest total, but it proves I have a feel for the criteria involved. However, since the self-nomination process has altered from the beginning of this year, I do not feel comfortable reviewing other editors work, as part of allowing any article I create to be put forward. I suspect I am not alone. My question is this - can I ask ask someone (ie. you) to nominate Don Charles' article for DYK consideration, or is this seen as 'bucking the system'.

I fully appreciate, even if my request is within the 'rules', and even if you think the article is worthy to put forward, that you may feel you do not wish to participate. No problem; just let me know. Many thanks for your time.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Allenton hippopotamus
Orlady (talk) 18:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

You silly sod
9 August I can't attend. 9 April, when it actually is, I've just submitted my thesis and will be riding the adrenaline high all the way to Derby ;p. Ironholds (talk) 17:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

SUL query
Hello again Victuallers! If you recall, you welcomed me to Wikipedia a couple of months ago. I now have a query which I hope you might be able to shed light on. Whilst exploring all the special pages linked to my username account, I clicked on the 'SUL' link at the bottom of my 'Contributions' page, and noticed that I have a 'warning' label next to the 'S4' status. Do you know what this means? Thanks, PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC) Actually I've just had another look at it and, strangely, my status has now changed to 'OK' - although I'm still curious to know what a 'warning' label means. Thanks PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:57, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's a technical status bar for the server rather than anything to do with the account being reported. If you go to the main page (http://toolserver.org/~vvv/) the same status gets shown. Fæ (talk) 22:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Its great to have a protective angel - thanks Fae Victuallers (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It's nice to know I hadn't got myself into trouble somehow... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 00:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Richard Boys
Many thanks for reviewing and approving this article for DYK. Having seen Billy Hathorn's comment I had thought it was probably going to get passed over. Seeing the "New message" tag when I logged in I went to my talk page thinking "What am I going to get moaned at for now?", so it was a nice surprise to get a DYK notification. Cheers! d a n n o 17:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thomas William Hislop
Thanks for fixing the stub assessment on the Thomas William Hislop talk page. Regarding the reworded DYK hook, I reckon it's a bit awkward. Do you want to have another look? I can see what you wanted to achieve, and the original hook certainly wasn't perfect.  Schwede 66  18:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Dyk
Thanks. History2007 (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Gascoyne (cyclist)
Hello Victuallers,

Thomas Gascoyne (cyclist) was a Derbyshire man, a hero of Chesterfield. I have scraped together a few snippets and one liners, but I would be delighted if you are interested in adding some polish/flair/detail/context etc. No pressure. Regards, Chienlit (talk) 01:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Don Charles
Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Register
Hi,

I have added your name as an example to http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Ambassador_register - you may want to refine your scope of interest or remove your name from the trial version if you prefer. Cheers Fæ (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ernest Townsend
Hello! Your submission of Ernest Townsend at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The Bushranger One ping only 02:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Derby Museum
Thankyou. Yes I will join everyone at Derby Museum (I'm riding the first train on the reopened Wirksworth Branch the day before - busy weekend!) I have added the category link to Duffield Castle, Derbyshire as they have the bucket and carved stone dug up by my Grandad. Maybe some other things, possibly those that were in Duffield Parish Room. Though I'm not sure they are a collection as such.

I'm not quite sure what the scope of the project will be. Is there, for instance, actual material in the Museum relating to the Philosophical Society? Does the project only relate to Derby or to the county? I imagine the oldest artefact around would be the Hopton Axe :-), though I dont know where it is. Chevin (talk) 21:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I am planning to drive up too. I will be interested in doing a few photos of silk throwing artifacts and any other textile related machinery as part of /or as well as the project in hand.
 * Brilliant Clem, they will be opening up the Silk museum for us - do sign the participants page, I think people will want to know you, Chevin etc will be there Victuallers (talk) 22:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thinking about it I'm even less sure about what the scope of the project is. Maybe I'll find out more on the day.Chevin (talk) 22:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for your reply. I dont think I have made any changes to your intro page have I? I'm replying here as more people are likely to see it.
 * I have also added a category link British Rail Research Division since there is, or was, a display in the Silk Mill.
 * Would you confirm that the scope of the project relates to artefacts and specific displays in the Museum. Hence Duffield Castle would not feature (unless there was a display relating to it), simply because of the Norman Bucket, but the bucket would be featured if there was a specific article about it? Chevin (talk) 11:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ernest Townsend
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

My contribution to the Vietnamese Project
Since you welcomed me to the English Wikipedia, I thought I would ask you about this. I went into my global contributions and discovered I am credited with one edit to the Vietnamese project. I am indeed listed as the first edit on the article on Galerga Galerga. I had made an edit to the English article on Galerga, but did not go to the Vietnamese Wikipedia. The English article isn't even linked to the Vietnamese one (at least at the time I viewed it). Did someone start the Galerga article by copying from the English edit page? I didn't think it was possible to drag an individual editor with it. Just curious. Many thanks. SeoMac (talk) 16:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Chesterfield
You recently undid an edit I made to the Chesterfield page. I removed the statement that chesterfield had 250,000 people in its urban area because it doesn't as evidenced by this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conurbations_in_the_United_Kingdom. Please do not change it back as what is left is correct. GunnertheGooner (talk) 23:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK - William Martin
Hello! Your submission of William Martin (naturalist) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  02:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Derby again
You probably know something I don't. Is any of the museum and art gallery still housed in the Victorian building, or was it all moved out? (The Bonnie Prince Charlie room, to take an example?) The English page sort-of-says it all moved out, but sources generally seem inconsistent on this. As I understand it, the buildings are attached, one facing on to Wardwick, the other on to The Strand, is that right? I like to know these things as I am spreading stuff across the weikipedias ... And rew D alby 14:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And another thing: could we get a picture of the Charlie room on Commons, do you think? Nice to be able to link, through that, to the prince himself. And rew D alby  16:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Castleton Garland Day
Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ashford Black Marble
Hello! Your submission of Ashford Black Marble at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Simon Burchell (talk) 21:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Hindi and neighbours
The Indian-language wikipedias are rather poorly developed (why? I'd say because so many of their speakers, especially if computer-literate, are also English-literate). Someone had done the English counties in Hindi, but there were articles for only two English cities, London and Oxford -- and (unless I missed one) no museums or art galleries outside India at all. I was adding categories as well as articles! and touch wood I was doing it more or less right.

I saw how you gradually became aware of the intellectual level of the discussion at Richard Knill Freeman. Happened to me too. Let's hope they'll have moved on in a few days. Meanwhile I had a nice email from David French, the main source of information, who is in fact a Wikipedian himself but had never got round to starting the article. And rew D alby 21:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ashford Black Marble
Gatoclass (talk) 18:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I've replied
Regards, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Driving well?) 18:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Richard Knill Freeman
Hello! Your submission of Richard Knill Freeman at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Multilingual challenge
You have probably been having further thoughts and discussions about this. Having now taken the measure of what's available on other wikis already (in most cases little or nothing) I'm ready to suggest what, exactly, the challenge should be. I was working it out while digging the onion bed this morning. We need to go for points (as is well known, points mean prizes). We don't (on those other wikis) want to emphasise featured article status. If they didn't even have an article on Derby till now, a featured article on a museum object in Derby would be out of balance. We want more exposure, and that ideally means as many as possible reasonable-quality articles related to and linked to the museum.

As a basis, I suggest: a single wikipedian or a team of two can enter for the challenge: the aim is to gain (say) 24 points for contributions on at least two wikipedias: a good or featured article by local rules counts 8, a short article (500 words of text) counts 5, a very short article (100 words of text) counts 1; all articles, to qualify, must contain an in-text link to the museum and an external link to the museum site.

I also suggest, if there is a limit (as there might well be) on the number of prizes, they be awarded on the final date to those who have scored the highest number of points (or to those who reached 24 first, or a combination), but that all entrants who reach 24 points by the final date get an official barnstar, certificate, or whatever.

How does that look? And rew D alby 10:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Andrew sounds good and similar to mine/museum thoughts, but suggest we discuss this via email. I'm at gmail Victuallers (talk) 10:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February 2011
Im reading this with interest as a newbie in GLAM. I wonder if QR codes couldnt be put on signs in front of historic buildings. The historic center of Mexico City could benefit from this as just about every building is historic and Ive already written a number of articles. Not to mention the the publicity WP could get from these signs.Thelmadatter (talk) 18:57, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I put the suggestion on the site as you suggested. I look forward to hearing how tomorrow goes!Thelmadatter (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * hey how did the Wiki Academy go?Thelmadatter (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I wish I could!!!!! You guys need to hold a Wikimania... If I do come to England, Ill have to pack my BiL (he's a big Anglophile and Beatles fan) in a suitcase! How do you make QR codes cooler??????Thelmadatter (talk) 20:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, that qualifies as cooler. Here in Mexico, however, I think the two important languages to have relevant articles in will be Spanish and English. However, other languages such as Japanese would be good too, especially since many institutions do not have the resources to create/translate stuff into those languages as well.... The problem will be having enough articles....Thelmadatter (talk) 22:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I was actually referring to doing something similar to the Derby project for Mexico. I dont write articles in Spanish. After teaching writing to native and non native speakers of Engish, I tend to shy away from composing in Spanish. Im all too aware just how much I can screw it up! However, I am more than happy to follow the progress of your project and see how it goes. Im betting on learning a lot.Thelmadatter (talk) 03:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for William Martin (naturalist)
Thanks Victuallers (talk) 18:02, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK
Hey Victuallers, thanks for the Bacon DYK template--and for all your work there. I see you're on call--can I ask you a quick favor? I just wrote Wim Hora Adema and would like to get that vetted soon enough for 8 March, International Women's Day. It's on Template_talk:Did_you_know, and while I'm still making some small (biographical) additions (thanks to a treasure trove at LexisNexis) the hook should be sourced well enough. Could you? Please?/ ;) Thanks in advance! Drmies (talk) 18:09, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * In the meantime it's been reviewed and OK'ed. Can you make sure it lands in the proper queue? (The Dutch are seven hours ahead of my time zone, Central Time Zone (North America).) Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 18:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, can you check if "Belinda Meuldijk, Wim Meuldijk, Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder" (a triple nomination, also on the suggestions page) is a fit for 8 March? I phrased it so that Belinda comes first. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Knill Freeman
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   10:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Treaty of Serbian-Albanian Alliance
Thanks for copy editing the article I wrote and nominated for DYK.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:19, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I would like to be able to add a bit to Derby Museum and Art Gallery article on wikipedia on Albanian language, but I don't speak Albanian. I will create article about Derby Museum and Art Gallery on wikipedia on Serbo-Croatian language instead.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Where should I look up for the multi lingual challenge you mentioned?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:14, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Needwood Forest
I could send you the scans ? Robin_B.Clay AT virgin dot net — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobinClay (talk • contribs) 19:35, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Samuel Rayner
Hello! Your submission of Samuel Rayner at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. I've reviewed the article, and while the length is ok and hook is interesting - the hook is not referenced in the article. Perhaps it is in one of the 3 references given, but they are not on-line so harder to check. In-line cite would be good. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 18:19, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * yes, I know refs don't have to be on-line, and I can accept that ref in good faith - I just wanted the hook to be explicitly referenced to something. It looks fine now. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 22:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Derby
Thanks for the nudge. I may well be able to attend; I will check and confirm when I know for sure. Warofdreams talk 21:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Template
Yes, let's go ahead and put the Derby Museum template anywhere that makes sense! I am happy with it if you are. :-) - PKM (talk) 23:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * And done! - PKM (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Romeo and Juliet: the tomb scene
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:02, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Transport? Derby? New Users?
No, actually I didn't know about that. Sounds cool. Love to go (especially as there might be some bus stuff), but by total coincidence, I'm away that weekend snapping photos to upload in Dorset. Can you beleive my luck? I suppose there is one next year? Thanks anyway --RCSprinter123 (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Samuel Rayner
NW ( Talk ) 08:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

ProtectMarriage.com
Hi, I think this credit was improperly attributed. The article was already at 1500 chars when it was nominated. As I understand it, "substantially expanded" applies to an article below 1500 chars which is expanded 5x. Lionel (talk) 20:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * When nominated on 2/25/11, the article was 2040 chars, and Bink hadn't made any edits. It passed the size requirement, and during the discussion over the hook Bink, as well as other editors, expanded it. Per the rules, "articles that have been created, or expanded fivefold or more" (emphasis mine). I guess what I'm saying is, we both can't get credit for meeting the size requirement. Lionel (talk) 22:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware of that interpretation of the rules. To me he seemed to be a "Johnny come lately". Lionel (talk) 23:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, "up to the nomnator"? Lionel (talk) 23:32, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I created the article, brought it up to required size, and then self-nominated it for DYK. Someone else changed the nom after me and listed him as an author. So it's up to me whether he gets credit or not? Lionel (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * When I started adding to the article, I did so in response to Lionelt's suggested hook having several editors point out various problems with it, the most serious being that it was too self-congratulatory in tone. The DYK nomination appeared to be tanking. I looked at the article, shot a few searches into Google and discovered I could possibly throw another few hooks into the hat, to make it fly. I spent 3–4 hours bringing the article from 5kb to 13kb, including the deletion of a paragraph that did not seem to fit. I added logo and lawsuit images, and a bunch of good information that was not there before. I felt at the time (and still do) that the DYK nom was not going anywhere, stalled with little hope, and that my participation helped significantly to make it happen. That's why in this diff I added three ALT hooks and added myself to the DYKmake bot as a co-writer. I did not add myself because I thought I expanded the article 5x, I added myself because I thought I helped it as a co-author to pass DYK. Rather than having nobody get credit, for a failed nom, two people got credit. Binksternet (talk) 23:46, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Indian Widow (Joseph Wright painting)
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

You've got mail
Regards, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Driving well?) 16:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Trolleybuses in Derby
G'Day from downunder. Thanks for your comments, and for the DYK nomination. I'm afraid you were correct in guessing that I'm more interested in the trolleybuses. Nevertheless, as a transport enthusiast, I am, of course, well aware of Derby's long time importance - Derby Works and all that ... Anyway, to mitigate your disappointment, I added an infobox to Derby Tramways, and also created Trolleybuses in Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. I also suggest that you invite your friends at the Derby Museum to upload to commons some more images that might be used to illustrate one or more of these articles. Regards, Bahnfrend (talk) 14:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Challenge 3
All other changes are fine I think, but I don't understand challenge 3. What does this "any Wikipedia project which is based on a language or country (outside the USA or UK)" mean? I don't know any Wikipedia or Wikimedia projects that are based on countries -- I thought they were all international. And rew D alby 11:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see now, this is not for individual Wikipedians at all, this is for a whole language Wikipedia. Yes, I can see how we could total that up, and award a barnstar for the most-improved Wikipedia. Let me meditate on it. I didn't grasp it at first ... And rew D alby  12:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * My suggestion is, yes, yes, to have such an award, and maybe for Jimmy Wales himself to allocate it to one or more Wikipedias that have improved notably as a result of the challenge; but maybe to announce it as a separate prospect, a week or so later, rather than confuse the issue right now, when the challenges we're proposing are aimed at individual Wikipedians.
 * I think that replacing Derby with Wright is a pity, because Derby is already an international word for a competition, whereas Wright isn't; and the artist himself, though good, isn't as well known as he should be! But I expect that decision was above our heads. No problem. And rew D alby  14:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No decision was mine mostly ... I'll rethink Victuallers (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have now started the "participants" sub-page. The only problem is, this could become a very long page! But I can't immediately think of a way to subdivide it. Even putting one's name in alphabetical order isn't easy, because usernames can be in any script. Any suggestions? And rew D alby  15:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Belper School
Hi - I'm trying to do some clean-up on the Belper School article and make it better reflect the school as well as it's notability. I am using the ofsted report mainly - I could do with some other sources. And maybe NPOV is an issue. I was raised in the way and pretty sucked in the ethos and my mum remains a governor. Kathybramley (talk) 09:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Derby GLAM
Thanks. Disappointed to be missing it, in truth. There is a slim chance I can still make it but it's unlikely. I shall follow the event closely - thanks again, and I hope the day will be a roaring success! --sparkl!sm hey! 18:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Ditto- had hoped to turn up just to say hello, but looks like I'll be unable to. Have a great day! Ning-ning (talk) 19:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Good luck with the event tomorrow. I made note of it on Wikimedia México's Facebook page with a brief description in Spanish. Something we should consider doing. Let us know how it went!!!Thelmadatter (talk) 00:11, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Museum label
You might want to add the Derby Breakthrough here - seems headed for DYK. Did you see there are AGM election questions to answer? Cheers, & good luck on Saturday! Johnbod (talk) 20:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Etc.
Good luck from me too. I am all ready to announce the multilingual challenge across the wikipedias but have not done so yet. Unless you prefer otherwise I will do it after this weekend, not before. Twitter? Me? No, I'm still in the 19th century.

I noted those interwiki links on the Wright painting pages. Maybe they are for some special demonstration this Saturday? In general they have disadvantages as well as advantages: disadvantages being, possibly, (1) that the bots which usually maintain interwiki links may be puzzled by them and may keep removing them; (2) that they make it look as if an article exists (and so needn't be created) when in fact it doesn't (and could be created). However, I'm sure you have a purpose in mind which may be more cogent than these little quibbles. And rew D alby 08:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Intermediate thx for work so far
Andrew, thank you so much for your steadfast support for this event. Do look me up when you return to the U.K. I owe you a beer or two. The links are to allow (http & //ow.ly/4w7Ey) to work. I expect we will need a cleverer solution, but I'm not sure what to do to make it correct. If English and Korean both have a Joseph Wright page then fine.... each painting in a Museum would be linked to Joseph Wright in every language available .... but if we create an article for a painting then where do the links go?

We worked this technology out as a result of the Derby work. Its not finished yet but I think its so cool. And per chance it aligns exactly with what you, me and Jimmy Wales are trying to do. Victuallers (talk) 16:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That's great, I knew there would be a good reason, just couldn't guess what it would be :) And rew D alby  17:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Derby Museum, tomorrow
I am afraid I am too far away to fancy the trip at my age. But thanks for letting me know about it. As it happens, I went to Derby Grammar School when it was in the town. Regards Plucas58 (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Trolleybuses in Derby
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

report please!
Hey, how about telling all of us how the event Saturday went? I announced it on Wikmedia México Facebook, I would like to update it.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry Thelmadatter - there has been a lot on Twitter but nothing here. I'll fix it tonight. Basically it went very well. Lots of involvement. c. 25 people. On local radio and news report. QRpedia was a hit. regards Victuallers (talk) 09:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Would you fancy writing a report on it for This Month in GLAM, Roger? Thanks, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Driving well?) 14:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, definitely deserves a report in the newsletter.Thelmadatter (talk) 03:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Hunt Painter
Hello! Your submission of William Hunt Painter at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Sandstein  17:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Trolleybuses in Derby 2
Regarding this and your question: Fixing the sentence requires adding another whole phrase or sentence, and requires knowledge of the subject that I do not possess. While I know a lot about trolleybuses, I don't know anything about trolleybuses in Derby. The person who wrote the sentence presumably knows what its relevancy to the subject is, and I was hoping that that person would clarify the sentence. I figured it was Bahnfrend, but I just checked the page history and now see that it was you, so it looks like we're at a dead end. Maybe I will delete it, in that case. The two points probably are relevant (and that's why I tagged it, rather than deleting), but it's not apparent to me what the relevance is, and thus it likely won't be to the average (non-UK) reader either. I forgot to mention that the sentence also neglects to say what "the experiment by London United Tramways" was (the use the definite article the suggests it is assumed all readers will know of said experiment). By the way, thanks for assessing the Valparaíso trolleybuses article (and I agree that B is appropriate). SJ Morg (talk) 06:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Masson
I didn't put them there- I just wish that some one had! Nothing concrete yet, I have been rather overwhelmed by the time it takes to process photos and find references. Masson is happy with photos being taken but the exhibits are poorly presented. The leaflet was last edited in before 1999 and the position of the exhibits has changed, they are very short of volunteers. In fact that Sunday it was manned by one guy. It desparately needs to get its interpretation boards in order- which in a sense in an opportunity. My Queen Street contact is on holiday, but Helmshore is promising, but nothing until next week- I am waiting for some staff training notes to be sent to me. The curator is on the ball and bi-lingual Swedish. She is happy with low res images (640-480s) going on commons, but I will send them to her first for confirmation. MOSI Manchester I need for cross reffing purposes but it seems to suffering from a lack of cash and TLC. In comparison to the others it seems highly over staffed. So my plans are first to get the images I have from Masson uploaded, write a Helmshore article, look at the Derby list and see if there is anything I can do with the reference books I have here in Glossop, and spend some of the weekend with my host. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC) .
 * I have got a small Commons template working (but not yet documented) that can be added to GLAM linked images, with the wording that the curators wish to see. Look at the two images to see how I have added it to the Source section of the description. It is at Commons:Template:GLAM-link for the source. I have put in the keywords Derby, and Masson, and made up some wording. These may be useful, I see it as being part of a toolkit to reassure curators at other museums we approach. Enjoy.--ClemRutter (talk) 12:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Hello again
Thanks, it was good to meet everyone. I was at the Local Records Office and the Museum today, as it happens, chasing up info on the Hopton Axe. I saw the archaeologist and she said how she enjoyed the day. As for the railway, I'm in contact with someone at the Silk Mill. The trouble is the place just isnt big enough for me. I'm trying to find time to work out some simple 'stories' about how the wheels run on the rails, how the track is built and the development of signalling. I welcome the NRM's interest - I understand they are taking an interest in the GCR at Loughborough. Being a York enterprise I had always thought them somewhat LNER centric. I did try to get them (and Derby Museum) interested in the High Speed Freight Vehicle which I maintain is the forerunner of all modern trains, but nobody had room for it and it doesnt look very inspiring. I am glad it has found a home in Birmingham at any rate. Chevin (talk) 19:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Derby Museum and Art Gallery
Hi, as a major contributor to the page on Derby Museum and Art Gallery, and someone who grew up in Derby with a special interest in the museum, I was disappointed to find that I had missed the meeting between 'wikipedians' and the museum staff by a few days! Yet I see no reference to this on past versions of the page, no call for people to attend,no message to my talk page, and no listing of it in the events list of the Museum's website. How was I supposed to know, or am I missing something? Memestream (talk) 23:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, and thanks for the reply. I have replied on my own talk page, and as the reply is quite long I will not clutter your page with it!  Memestream (talk) 12:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alfred E. Goodey
Hello! Your submission of Alfred E. Goodey at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Wasted Time R (talk) 10:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The King of Rome
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Hunt Painter
Hello! Your submission of William Hunt Painter at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gatoclass (talk) 11:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Saturday
Sorry not to have been in touch, been very very busy in real world. The QRcodes stuff looks very interesting and I will try to make it. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 18:07, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Easter Monday
Thanks for your note, but I'm not around this week, sorry. Maybe some other time? Keep up the good work, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 07:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!!
Gosh, thanks :-) That's really sweet of you. I just fixed what I noted on my way to reviewing it so I could give the DYK nom. its tick . . . which then of course turned out to be unneeded because meanwhile someone else saw it met the criteria and moved it to prep. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Manchester wikimeet in June
Hello. The next Manchester wikimeet will be sometime in June (date TBD) - would you be interested in coming? See Meetup/Manchester 8 for details. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:06, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for William Hunt Painter
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Gaming DYK
It's no big deal to me, but you might be interested in. Andy Mabbett (User: Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2
In regards to several of your recent edits, thanks for helping at DYK. However, you should be aware that when inuse template is present at the top of the page it indicates that someone is in the middle of an update and the page is in a state where edits by otheres may or may not be safe. --Allen3 talk 12:28, 29 April 2011 (UTC) That was my mistake, I didn't notice Victuallers (talk) 11:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Alfred GoodeybyETownsend.jpg
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I've replied
Mum&#39;s taxi (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Clement W. Payton DYK
Hello,

I am a bit surprised this became a DYK; there are only several hundred other aces who won the same decorations. This should not have been a Did You Know?; it should have been a So What?

Georgejdorner (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: April 2011
Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 16:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK review for Władysław Raginis
Would you mind commenting again at the review for Władysław Raginis. I have suggested an alt hook. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred E. Goodey
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Off for ten days
As I mentioned in my email, I'm off now for ten days. I just asked Rock drum if he'd like to design a barnstar for our keen challengers: I hope this was the right thing to do ... if you had some other plan, please add a comment on his talk page. All the best -- And rew D alby  18:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That is exactly who I had in mind! Victuallers (talk) 19:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * PS I'll knock out a template today if it has not already been sorted. Cheers Fæ (talk) 06:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar for DMC
Hey, I made an article in Spanish so I guess I do now qualify for receiving the barnstar. I updated my list here. Thank you! --Arnaugir (talk) 11:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Is the russian bit of text supposed to go for me? or a copy-paste error? ;P (here). Thanks for the barnstar, I'll keep working. Best regards --Arnaugir (talk) 13:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for "Spanish Welcome". I´m really excited with this proyect. Regards. Salvador alc (talk) 02:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar typo
Thanks for the Barnstar, a minor error, you write "Challe n nge" instead of "Challenge", I have already correct mine but not with two other participants. Sanko (talk) 15:47, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Esperanto welcome
Thanks for your "Esperanto welcome" to Derby Challenge - --89.224.174.28 (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC) (Dominik)

Hi Victuallers
its Johemsill5 check out my new article on the later stuarts at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johemsill5/The_later_stuarts feel free to edit it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johemsill5 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Re:A DYK nom
Oh, I'll read it later :) But, can you help me to find a photo of Ronald Pope to the article? - Al Lemos (talk) 23:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Mum&#39;s taxi (talk) 07:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:GLAM/NRM
Hi Roger, as per Fae's request, I've created a project page for the National Railway Museum. It's pretty much a skeleton at the moment, as I didn't know how you wanted the pages filled out. Regards, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash 17:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Atlas Coelestis
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 06:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome
Thanks for the personal words, and you are very much welcome. I am hoping to do quite a few more Indonesia-related articles in the near future; doing the Badai Pasti Berlalu series made me see how many legendary Indonesian entertainers we are missing. By the way, if I were to create one article and 5x another for the same hook, how would I list that? Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:20, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
thank you for the welcome ! I'm very proud to be (at now) the firts italian in the Wright Challenge :) I've seen that WC deals with topics quite unknown in Italy: I hope so that they become a bit most famous for the italians. bye --Conte di Sarre (talk) 10:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ronald Pope
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

National Railway Museum
See. Happy to talk to you about it first. Note, however, that I'm not online every day right now, so were you to drop me an email to make contact, I'd be in a position to respond today up to about 10pm, and after that, Wednesday of next week. I shall wave to the museum as I pass it (as I have done twice weekly for the last too many years) at about 21.03 this evening... --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You (should) have email. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:08, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

While it is a long way away, I might be able to make the meeting at the NRM that you suggest. It will be another couple of weeks before I can confirm my plans for that part of June. Geof Sheppard (talk) 15:55, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like I'll be able to get to York for the meeting - but the afternoon would work better for me than the morning. Geof Sheppard (talk) 15:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Going forward (as they say)
Over the next few days I'll take stock of progress in the various languages, add categories wherever it seems reasonable and make sure the internal links are as helpful as possible; then, perhaps, we could arrange for one of those banner adverts to appear one day, saying something like -- have you taken the Wright Challenge? There's still time! Wright needs you! Do you know how we would fix that? And rew D alby 09:06, 21 May 2011 (UTC)