User:Whaleyland/Archives

Archives for Whaleyland since 15 September 2005: New Site Launch and Updates! This is a pseudo out of Wiki thing but my website has launched at www.whaleyland.com. It will be some time before it looks good but if my presence is absent from Wikipedia, it is because I am developing this site currently.

In Wiki news, check out WikiProject Succession Box Standardization/Templates to see the progress the project (mostly Waltham and myself) are making toward removing older, out-of-style succession templates. Of course every time we delete a template, we have already found at least a dozen new old ones to delete/phase out. Currently, though, we have deleted a lot, as can be noticed by the huge list of red links on that page.

I am leaving a lot of the management of the project to Waltham due to having school, work, and other projects to work on. However, I am still trying to leave my presence there where I can. We are going to be recruiting old and new members soon and that should make us a little better. Currently the project has undergone MAJOR clean up to make it more appealing to new members. 14 September 2007

New Templates and a New Look It has indeed been a long time since I last looked upon this page with anything but disgust. But now it has a nice new look with updates for all! Well, sort of.

Anyway, lately it has come to my attention as Great Khan that a certain problem has arisen regarding succession templates that needs correction. In fact, the entire organization I created so long ago needs an overhaul and I am working on that regularly now. I added new templates, Template:s-cite and Template:s-fam so that people can see where we find our information and view a more complete genealogy for certain of our people. This being said, there is still a lot of argument over at WikiProject Succession Box Standardization that needs to be resolved and I'll be damned if it doesn't get fixed soon. But that must come with time. I will try updating this page more often with my current projects but it is more of an obligation to update than to update this. Cheers! 25 February 2007

Massive Template Clean-up It has been a while since I last updated. A ton of revisions have been done to most of the old templates and a number of new templates have been created. The series just released help with the "s-"series regarding the various types of titles out there. Released is Template:s-pre for pretenders, Template:s-reg for regnal and noble titles, Template:s-hon for honorary titles, Template:s-off for political office titles, and Template:s-par for assembly titles. These go above each list of titles and can be viewed from the help page linked from Template:start. In addition to these, Template:s-ttl now supports district seats as an option, Template:s-ptd has been deemed redundant and only Template:s-tul is being used now, and Template:s-hou is being used more frequently. Some of these templates are being connected with catagories, too, which is quite amazing. I attempted to create a table for family decendents but it failed for the most part due to an indentation glitch. The other project I am continuing is the clean up of succession boxes from the older styles to the newer ones. Much of the old styles are gone now but considering there are now over 1 million articles on Wikipedia, plenty of the old HTML succession boxes still exist. I am also creating succession boxes where they are needed, updating ones with s-hou and other styles, and added pretentious lines where I can (mostly because they are fun to track). I ceded the Picts and Dál Riada pages to more suited scholars as my attention span for maintaining articles once I have created them is limited. 5 April 2006

New Round of Templates I have been working at a crazy pace to test and release my new templates. TO help with the Titular and Pretender problems, I created Template:s-tul and Template:s-ptd which provides some extra information on the rulers. I also finally completed a header bar for all the templates indicating the royal house they are in, what the master house is, and their birth and death dates (Template:2-hou. I integrated Template:s-reg into Template:s-ttl for better compatibility.  All of this was possible because I finally found out how to do if-then clauses thanks to a little template called Template:if.  That now permeates throughout my s- series and a rewrite of the instructions at Template_talk:s-start will be finished shortly.  21 November 2005

Succession Templates Galore The project of converting to a new standard for succession templates seems to have gone over well. The process of changing them, however, is not. I crated a new line of templates with directions available at Template_talk:S-start. With this new format, I converted the entire template system at its base while still not causing problems with the old templates (except in a very few exceptions). The only problem remaining is my desire to convert the Template:S-start into common use throughout the subsiderary templates, therefore cancelling out the use of Template:S-start. So far, this has not worked so I need to work on my CSS more. Until then, I will continue to use what I have and keep trashing the old HTML and bad CSS forms. The Template:succession box ones I am generally keeping, if only because they still use my system in its base structure. 12 November 2005

The Race Has Begun! Although I have yet to complete all the desires I had for the Picts and Dal Riada pages, I have taken on a larger task! I am converting all remaining HTML and early CSS succession boxes to the newer formats. I am even considering creating my own that will be more adaptable to different table configurations. That is my plan, we shall see how it goes.

30 Oct. 2005

List of Kings of the Picts

After some work, I have extracted the original page onto another temporary page in order to transfer information from the original Kings of the Picts page into the individual pages when I create them. I found it highly unnecessary to have up to five different name varieties for Pictish kings when one of the options was always their actual name and the rest were just alternate spellings. Hopefully, I will have the individual pages finished for the Pictish kings by the end of the week. Then I will go back and add to the remaining Dál Riadan kings with the new information I have.

15 Oct. 2005

Problems with Dál Riada

It appears that history has not been kind to the kings of the Scottish kingdom of Dál Riada. At least five sources state five different things about the forefathers of the Dál Riadan line. This is forcing me to choose sources and merge sources, occassionally making for bad calls. I hope that they clear up by the latter kings leading up to Kenneth I, and I also hope the Picts are easier to deal with, though they look only more difficult. Well, off to the sweatshops for more heard labour.

11 Oct. 2005

List of Kings of Dalriada

The king lists for Dalriada and Pictavia are a mess and I am going to clean them up, as well as their entries. I have done some minor research into the original documents we have concerning the individuals involved, so am beginning a project to modernize and clean up the biographies for the kings while fixing the mess that contributors have made of the list pages. I should be done in a few weeks at latest.

8 Oct. 2005

Brutus of Troy

Due to complaints, I have edited and fixed the Brutus page to better match (I hope) the editorial standards of Wikipedia. It has been edited a lot since I posted the title a year and a half ago. 27 Sep. 2005

Kingdom of Imereti

The Imereti page is not complete, listing all the kings from the Georgian split to the fall to the Russians in 1810. This page should probably be better incorporated into the page one Imereti and Georgia, though. 23 Sept. 2005

List of the Kings of Georgia

A very messy page is now cleaned up. I pretty much redid the thing from scratch, only keeping a trace amount of what was there earlier. It now chronicles the Bagrationi family from there start as Princes of Kakheti through the Georgian period and into the Kartli period until the two kingdoms were reunified then annexed by the Russians. I had a lot of fun doing this one and think that I may work on some of the individual pages next if I have the time. 16 Sept. 2005

Bagrationi It is strange to see academics fight over nationalist issues, especially in such a nation as Georgia, yet this is a great example. Many people have become involved yet the page remains restricted due to the insistances of one individual that the royal family is Georgian, while all western knowledge claims the man is Armenian. This is a true sign of a silly argument over issue that do not need arguing over.  15 Sept. 2005