User:Wispanow/Reports/Report by Wispanow about the Objectivity of the English Wikipedia about Germany especially in Relation to Human Rights and Racist Discrimination

==Report by Wispanow about the Objectivity of the English Wikipedia regarding Germany especially in Relation to Human Rights and Racist Discrimination==
 * This report uses a somehow coherent style. Please be so kind not to change anything within this section and any subsections. Please use the section: Requested Changes, Supplements or directly related Comments in case of requested changes, supplements or any probably inappropriate, unbalanced or wrong statement or any directly related reply, comments or questions to this report. Thank you very much. Wispanow (talk) 09:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Wispanow (talk) 09:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * INCOMPLETE. Currently i am working on this report, minimum until April.


 * Partly copied Statement by Wispanow made on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#User:Wispanow. Partly changed. Shorted. Expanded.


 * Current state:
 * Some usable preparatory work; incomplete


 * Delivered Results:
 * Some Sources from 100% reliable to unreliable valuated and given
 * Some Final Proofs given
 * Call for verifiable sources given at 2010-03-17


 * Next to deliver:
 * Definition of Discrimination Expected at: End March.
 * Reports about reliability and verifiability of sources. Expected at: March/early April.
 * Report about verifiability and racism in the introduction of Scientology in Germany. Expected at: early April.
 * Overview of causes for a partly highly biased viewpoint of Scientology in Germany and its editors. Expected at: April.

Preface
''' Stating reality in an appropriate manner is the main thing ANY encyclopedia and the discussion about it is for. '''

Leaves to prove what is reality and appropriate.

This is intentionally NOT an Wikipedia article. It intentionally uses sometimes a style which does NOT fulfill Wikipedia guidelines for articles. As ANY information which wants to present details about a specific topic, it limits or even excludes details of other, related topics and therefore violates neutrality. Sometimes specific viewpoints are presented, which are seen in comparison or as an addition to other, already presented or known viewpoints. Although this specific viewpoints highly violate neutrality if seen alone, in addition to other viewpoints it overall "increases" or "improves" neutrality. This is No explanation of the universe, this galaxy or even this tiny little planet called earth.

Additionally this text uses sometimes a wording not being seen as appropriate for nearly all Wikipedia articles. In some Wikipedia articles like Racism, Discrimination or Seven dirty words a wording is seen as appropriate and necessary, which differs from most other Wikipedia articles. Imho this is true for this topic and viewpoint and i will prove it. In the meantime i am sorry for any use of upsetting but appropriate words.

Reality, Objectivity, Neutrality and Valuations relating to Wikipedia
All humans live in the minimum 4-dimensional universe with minimum 4-dimensional relations as perceived by Einstein (and his wife?).

This is fundamental for any knowledge or neutral point of view today and needed for knowing the position as well as direction of anything related to humans.

What does this mean?


 * "Sparks" of Reality

To see reality means to have an absolutely secure position. Having NOT an exact position means if someone runs in a direction (for example gain more money) he probably achieves this, but may be surprised if the reached position is not the wanted. Discovered "Sparks of Reality" can be used as an anchor for finding evidence and for a proof.


 * Objectivity

This is the correct application (by for example scientific method) of current knowledge. Truth, science, knowledge relates here. By far the easiest to prove.


 * Equaling the Balance, Unique Neutral point of view

Very difficult to achieve, and impossible to prove in reality because relations are everywhere. Law and judiciary are often examples of getting an appropriate judgment by "proofs" which are relative and do not fulfill a absolute objectivity. The time clearly is relevant (many "history" pages in Wikipedia), needs balance and often makes me lamenting ;-).


 * Yours, mine, any personal viewpoint

May be any of the above, but is by far mostly (we do not have the time to make an investigation about every statement we have to give) biased. For example even the most serious, earnest scientist prefers some kind of food (without proof, probably biased ;-) ).

Fictitious Example of Viewpoints about 1+1=?

Journalism can have any of these viewpoints, and has mostly mixed viewpoints. Good, serious journalism (which includes somehow Wikipedia) is often seen as a mixture of objectivity and neutrality: Note that "violating neutrality" is valuated neutral: neither "positive" nor "negative". Reason is that it may present an unreal viewpoint, to give 1+1=3 and 1+1=4 similar room than 1+1=2, even if in the last example the room is weighted per human percentage. The "right" result: 1+1=2 may be questioned "inappropriately" in the view of the reader by "wrong" results. So that depends on:
 * 1) Viewpoints which are seen as "wrong" by most "reliable sources", are excluded; violating neutrality.
 * 2) "Unknown" is nearly ever no new and even if, no interesting message; although some journalists will have this viewpoint, they do not publish, and others will post different viewpoints which violate neutrality.
 * a) who are the readers,
 * b) in which manner will they read the text and
 * c) which result represents reality.

Germany has a different, "non-racist" state structure: a summary
That does not mean, that other states are racist, but motivated by history and after several trials the founders of Germany has found a brilliant way to implement a world-leading level of protection of human rights while leaving a very high level of freedom. It is based on the Rechtsstaat (State of Laws), which limits power of politicians especially in everything related to human rights by increasing the power of the courts together with a high level of separation of powers.

At a first look the German constitution does not offer very uncommon things while stating the "basics" of the basic law in the first 12 articles. The articles are mainly ordered by importance; Religious freedom is article 3 and 4 after human dignity, freedom and general human rights. Regarding to freedom of religion:


 * Any needed registration would violate the freedom of religion, stated in Artikel 4. A needed registration will limit the freedom.
 * The same with recognition.
 * Any believer, its religious community and the economically organization is protected.

In fact, there is no recognition or registration possible. Otherwise give a prove.

The world-wide unique thing in its combination of features is the Bundesverfassungsgericht (Federal Constitutional Court of Germany), which guarantees and protects human rights for everybody who thinks his rights were violated related to Germany or Germans. It can partly be seen as a "Super" Supreme Court:

1. Accessible as an inviolable right by everybody worldwide, independent of religion, decent, nationality or race. Other states limit access to protection of human rights dependent of religion, decent, nationality or race (short "race" as defined by United Nations), making them violable for most humans of the world, or "racist".

2. Can be called directly, without need for calling lower courts first, but can be (and is mostly) used as the highest appeal in Germany, even higher than the Federal courts.

3. Easiest accessible: No money needed for everybody, no lawyer or special lawyer needed: A formless, hand-written paper in any language of the world is sufficient.

4. Highly independent: For example it often changes, blocks or even fully deletes laws of the German government several times a year due to violation of the constitution. That does not make German politicians look good. German politicians are often, and especially in areas related to the protection of basic human rights, extremely limited by the courts, making them nearly powerless. In opposite, the Bundesverfassungsgericht seems currently change even European law (although it is not directly entitled to) in case of privacy protection.

5. Its power is tremendous although it has never been tested because never ignored. In comparison the US Supreme Court has a lot less power: Although the Supreme Court judged in 2004 that Guantanamo prisoners should have full access to the courts (not as a inviolable right for everyone, but gracefully granted to a few guys), its judgment, even with a follow-up in 2008, is minimum partly ignored.

6. It MUST be called to get active.

7. Germany has ratified the European Convention on Human Rights with the European Court of Human Rights and other international declarations of human rights including their courts.

Germany protects the free speech even of politicians: Aren't others?
But Germans take not as much care in political correctness, as especially USA. This relates to talking, in actions it seems imho contrary. Discussing in Germany is often a lot more frankly, strenuous and offensive, and i seem not to do better. The highly active german courts do a comparison of the right of free speech and the right of protection of individuals or groups. Imho German courts reached a top-level of protection in any written text, except news: for example Germany is one of the very few states worldwide in which every public internet-forum needs a supervisor because the forum owner can be punished for every entry which is possibly insulting, disgracing, discrediting or otherwise violate rights: but therefore limiting the freedom of speech especially in published texts except newspapers.

The spoken word is judged less offensive because it is transient; free speech is less limited. Politicians do have no special rights or limits.

Everything together in case of politicians may give a:
 * High level of free speech in spoken words
 * with less need for political correctness
 * the extreme limits in power especially in case of basic human rights seems in some areas allows politicians to speak very frankly about their preferences and wishes, as their talk is nearly fully unimportant. Some of them do so about Scientology.
 * Freedom of newspapers is highly protected in Germany, so sometimes quite aggressive, disgracing and even discriminating statements are published. Due to the nearly complete lack of power of any politician in case of basic human rights this may look important in foreign countries, but isn't.

Thats why i often call German politicians screaming little monkeys, trying anything to get attention and look important, while they are dancing to the music of the courts (in human rights, but many areas are related to this).

But that's mainly because of my high expectations. Politicians in other countries use their right of free speech, too.

It is unbalanced, only to publish any proposed actions of politicians relating to Scientology in Germany, but not to do so with other countries.

Germany is a strictly parliamentary democracy
Though nearly everything has to pass both chambers of the parliament (Politics of Germany) means, every use of the term German government includes the Cabinet of Germany: the federal chancellor, all federal ministers together with both chambers of the parliament; calling parts of that German government is a misuse.

Even every mission of the German army, the Bundeswehr has to be allowed by the parliament. The army is not allowed to use any weapons within German borders; even helping missions are difficult.

There is no federal police. There is no police leader in the German government.

The Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution) monitors anti-constitutional activities in Germany.

Judiciary of Germany

 * Nearly any correction of a judgment is done by appeals, not by revision or super-revision.
 * The courts have much more power than for example in USA: they can call for more sources, researches or new investigations.
 * "Anything which/who can contribute to find the truth, is allowed." Thats the main thing, any evidence must be regarded, even it was first not shown probably for tactical reasons, or if it even was acquired by an criminal act.

Summary
1. A balanced view of statements of German politicians NEEDS a view on the power of the politician, which is nearly not there in case of human rights, including freedom of religion. If there is nearly no power, its something like a private speech of a politician, and highly questioning relevancy.

2. A balanced view of statements of German politicians NEEDS international balance: it will give a distorted, wrong view of Germany, if statements of politicians given in talk-shows, newspaper interview of short reply of a quick question, or during a parliament debate are listed as relevant, important positions. Unbalanced and irrelevant.

Incomplete.

Scientology Believers, Members, Customers and Employees, the Community, the Church, the Economical Organization and Companies
Thats some of the characteristics, but in the German law it can be reduced to three, the:
 * Individual, which can be believer, member, customer employee or whatever: he is directly mentioned and enjoys religious freedom protected by the constitution without any registration, special recognition or whatever needed, possible or allowed.
 * Community, society, "church" without its economical aspects, just the group of people with its non-economical activities: is seen as directly mentioned and enjoys religious freedom protected by the constitution without any registration, special recognition or whatever needed, possible or allowed.
 * Economical Organization and companies and the economical part of the church: acting as contractor/subcontractor, employer and owner: is not clearly directly mentioned, but the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany has ruled that this is absolutely necessary, has full religious freedom and is fully directly protected by the constitution without any RELIGIOUS registration, special recognition or whatever needed, possible or allowed. Due to the economical characteristic and legal statutes, see: Status_of_religious_freedom_in_Germany.

Result is: Just stating "Scientology" is MINIMUM misunderstandable, often clearly wrong and probably racist.

Sources with unbalanced, biased or wrong statements or viewpoints or wrongly cited

 * 1) Consider that sources may not reflect reality. Germany under Attack from Scientology which enjoys Freedom of Religion and Protection of Human Rights
 * 2) Consider that anything i remember in this article about the recognition of Scientology and nearly anything about the violation of human rights in Germany is wrong. Scientology Gerichtsurteile Translation: Scientology Judgments: Recognition of 30 years Basic Law Article 4 Religious Freedom Church of Scientology in Germany 1978 to 2008 Scientology statements

I accuse mainly time.com and partly bbc.co.uk (and others) for stating an unbalanced, wrong and/or even racist viewpoint of Germany and german people. Therefore it will not help adding additional sources just mentioning the same viewpoint, but

''' check if its real or wrong or racist. '''

In case of human rights, this means mainly court judgments or VERY difficult to achieve balanced view of actions happened.

Listed sources are insufficient; search for more.

My definition of racism against Germany and German people is based on the United Nations

 * The UN does not define "racism", however it does define "racial discrimination": according to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,
 * the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.


 * This definition does not make any difference between prosecutions based on ethnicity and race, in part because the distinction between the two remains debatable among anthropologists.
 * According to British law, racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin".

Leaves to define discrimination:
 * The United Nations uses the definition of racial discrimination laid out in the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, adopted in 1966:
 * ...any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.(Part 1 of Article 1 of the U.N. International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination)

I prefer to add two more points:
 * 1) Because we are not perfect and it may offend somebody, use of the term "racism" needs a considerably amount of discrimination
 * 2) Statements have to differ from reality or include meanings that differ from reality.

Clear definition. Can be final. Wispanow (talk) 16:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Other Definitions of Racism and Racist
Wiktionary: Racism
 * 1) The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.
 * 2) The belief that one race is superior to all others.
 * 3) Prejudice or discrimination based upon race.

Wiktionary: Racist: "An advocate of racism."

Macmillan Dictionary: Racist
 * "someone who does not like or respect people who belong to races that are different from their own and who believes their race is better than others."

Categories of Discrimination
Racism and Discrimination are stating ways to do racism. Although this are good pages with many articles, listing a lot of details, i prefer categorization in a partly different manner and needed a summary. The definition of racism given before is the base. If you need sources, look especially in Discrimination and linked pages.

This section is needed for later proofs. Please feel not offended as i use some filthy examples to explain discrimination and racism. Otherwise skip reading this paragraph. It is absolutely NOT my intention to offend anybody. I am sure i am biased as all humans are, but trying my best.

Basics of Discrimination
In order to get it done and for ease of use i written this reduced, simplified model which works quite well in this case.

MACHT balance opfer triumphator winner loser Bidirektional

Misuse,abuse unbewußte power =eigentäuschung, liebe großzügigkeit

Discrimination by Power
Universal, can do all Dominance Limits, borders, rules, laws Army unabsichtlich

Discrimination by changing Täuschung
Lying, irrtum Reality, Matrix , intrige, believe, hidden Proof, Aussage ggn aussage,

Discrimination by changing the Quantity

 * Increasing quantity:
 * A Pole stole my car. (Thats true, it was my beloved Audi Quattro): No racism because its true; although it may be impolite.
 * Many/All Poles steel cars. Clearly strong discrimination and racism. (I will not support that)


 * Lowering quantity:


 * Increasing a part:

Discrimination by changing Equality
This is by far the most powerful because extremely difficult to counter.

Balance Relation

exclusion Respect or Recognition, importance

lawyers, courts, judicial

"Hidden" Racism
Common,

Scientific and Technical Racism
Whats that? Can scientist think in a racist manner? My personal definition is that a scientific education is not enough. I am sure: Every person has to recognize his own racism, BEFORE he can ever think to be a scientist. Example:

Early 1980s the Compact Disc and players were developed and quite quickly challenged the Turntables.

National Hysteria: Sure you can prove Scientology murdered millions of Germans?
Probably its a lack of definition: Nation is easy in case of Germany: i will accept even everybody inside the borders, every Germany citizen or people of CLOSE Germany decent. Definition:
 * Hysteria, in its colloquial use, describes a state of mind, one of unmanageable fear or emotional excesses. The fear is often caused by multiple events in one's past that involved some sort of severe conflict; the fear can be centered on a body part or most commonly on an imagined problem with that body part (disease is a common complaint). See also Body dysmorphic disorder and Hypochondriasis. People who are "hysterical" often lose self-control due to the overwhelming fear.
 * Mass hysteria — other names include collective hysteria, Mass Psychogenic Illness, or collective obsessional behavior — is the sociopsychological phenomenon of the manifestation of the same or similar hysterical symptoms by more than one person.[1][2] A common manifestation of mass hysteria occurs when a group of people believe they are suffering from a similar disease or ailment.
 * Specific examples: In 2009 in Fort Worth, Texas, 34 people were sent to the hospital after they complained about having symptoms when they mistakenly thought they had been exposed to carbon monoxide.

Though i found a mass-hysteria, but no national one. And i can see a clear association, that it MUST be a NATIONAL hysteria, in order to fullfill the sources.

I request examples of best USA and UK of NATIONAL hysteria, if you want, make a list. Please state how many people died or a source. And i absolutely see that a national hysteria should be mentioned on the page of that country. Please no additional german hysteria. If you want to prove that only Germany can have a national hysteria, be warned. I do not accept not proving a source in detail, like "If it was no hysteria, than some fears".

I request primary sources or other sources proving how this hysterias established in Germany. Please state the number of people died, and a lot of additional, independent sources. Should be easy.

The second way, if you have problems proving the first one, is to prove that Scientology caused an event that shocked Germany. Due to no hysteria is known after World War 2, even with many millions of Germans died and main parts of the country destroyed, others lost forever, Scientology should probably murdered millions of Germans to cause a hysteria. Sure?

I can see none of that: There are Nearly no sources for any of the National or Mass-hysteria others that the few ones i am highly questioning. No prove: DELETE!

Scientology monitored
Scientology Organizations were monitored for many years mainly by the Bundesverfassungsschutz, but also by several Constitution Protection agencies of the Federal districts of Germany. It was currently judged, that this is minimum partly inappropriate. But several:

Open Questions

 * 1) How is MONITORING of religious or other organizations seen in other countries, mainly USA and UK? Is it:
 * Legal?
 * Being made?
 * Even by religious organizations?
 * Do they provide information about that?
 * What agency would perform this in USA and UK?

100% Reliable, Verifiable Sources
This sources are 100% reliable and verifiable,  outperforming ALL others with contrary and/or differing statements , making them usable to prove objectivity, neutrality and representation of reality.

1. Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany Original text: HTML, PDF,non-official table of contents (status: August 2006). Official Translation: PDF

2. European Convention on Human Rights: Full text of the European Convention on Human Rights

3. Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union: Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (and in PDF format). Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union as adapted at Lisbon. European Parliament’s explanation of the Charter. Detailed Guide to the EU Charter

4. Chapter : Religion and Religious Communities The Reich Constitution of August 11th 1919 (Weimar Constitution) with Modifications Articles 136-139+141 are part of the German constitution

5. This: Scientology Gerichtsurteile Translation: Scientology Judgments: Recognition of 30 years Basic Law Article 4 Religious Freedom Church of Scientology in Germany 1978 to 2008 is mainly a list of court judgments which are available in detail in the internet via the Aktenzeichen AZ. It further can be seen as a HIGHLY reliable source providing statements of Scientology in Germany about their view of Religious Freedom in Germany related to Scientology.

Reliable, Verifiable Sources
1. Germany under Attack from Scientology which enjoys Freedom of Religion and Protection of Human Rights

2. Scientology statements

3. Reliable because primary sources given; must be checked; Scientology presentation

Somehow reliable Sources, MUST be checked
1. : Listing court judgments; Scientology presentation

Highly unreliable, incorrect sources
1. : Wrong and highly biased viewpoint of Scientology. Provided by Jayen466 as a "disprove the notion that Scientologists are happy with the protection of their human rights in Germany". Prove the source.

Final Proofs
Sources not listed.

In case of doubt, try to prove the contrary or the position you prefer. If you fail and even doubt, contact me, best with all related info you have.

1. The German constitution lists the full protection of freedom of religion in Artikel 3+4, with no registration or special recognition needed, possible or allowed. It is valid and in power.

2. The Federal Constitutional Court of Germany is easiest directly accessible as an inviolable right by everybody worldwide, independent and powerful.

3. European Convention on Human Rights and the European Court of Human Rights (which are valid, accessible and in power) ratified, easily accessible, independent and powerful. Even other international declarations of human right and its courts ratified; in contrary to for example the USA.

4. "Scientology" has proven to many times be able and that they do not hesitate to call the courts, even international.

5. It claims itself that its freedom of religion is protected. Listing additional primary sources as a proof.


 * Currently challenged by Jayen466: I asked for additional proof.

6. The freedom of religion is independent from the tax-exempt status. And a tax-exempt status is no recognition of any religion.

7. The German government does not and is not allowed to registrate or recognize any religion, but has to respect the freedom of religion.

8. Private opinions of some politicians does a) not reflect the opinion of the German government and b) is their right of free speech and c) is irrelevant.

9. Many Wikipedia editors (Imho the majority, without any proof, but why i am accused Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#User:Wispanow here?) are recognizing that some or main parts of the introduction of Scientology in Germany are stating that the Freedom of Religion or other Human Rights are NOT guaranteed and/or granted in a considerable part. Sources see Scientology in Germany history and comments also on the talk page and relating articles links like Scientology_controversies, Scientology status by country and their talk pages. I can remember my article edits being reverted with reasons like: "Does not seem to be valid".

10. This source provides statements which are partly CLEARLY contrary to the statements in Scientology in Germany, in other parts they are contrary as a conclusion. Statements that believe regarding Scientology in Germany may be biased, are delivered. 11. If different employees or members with different claims and different employment contracts relating to probably different Scientology Organizations or companies get different labour court judgments even with different valuations of the behavior or the religious activity of the respective Scientology Organization or company as an employer regarding to this different employee or member, this is no violation of any human right or freedom of religion at all and imho absolutely irrelevant for Wikipedia.

12. No one is perfect; even i am not ;-). The longer a text or even a book, the more errors are (statistically) included. This relates to ALL sources.

13. That someone received an academic degree, worked in a leading position and wrote some books, is NO proof that every statement or even the major viewpoint is correct, neutral or verifiable.

14. German judges judge about UNIQUE, nearly always past, submitted states or characteristics, are NOT allowed to judge about a religion and/or believe and are no soothsayers or speculators: If an economical organization of a religious group which sells books, courses and trainings and collects membership fees and gifts while employing employees and giving provision and sales percentage to members, employees and subcontractors while paying royalty fees, advertisement and service contracts and other commercial companies and everything regarding to rooms and buildings, receives a judgment that clearly non-religous activity is surely predominating (religious freedom is one of the highest values in Germany) regarding ALL its past activities and seldom appropriate sure future activities, its no violation of religious freedom because its currently surely mainly no religious organization. This is no foretell, is NO valuation of the religion and/or believe and is NOT comparable to a different economical organization in a different country with different financing and with different commercial, financial and religious activities of a different quantity and different quantitative proportion, even if it is the same believe.

Any direct or indirect comparison of any valuation and/or judgment of any economical related part of any Scientology Church (including the economical part), Organization or Company in Germany with that of other states which is not minimum mentioning that it is a different organization with different activities and/or financing is wrong and biased. Of course a comparison about individuals and/or community or church without any economical relation is possible and can be relevant.

15. Just stating "Scientology" without stating if it is an individual, the community (or parts of it) and/or any economical organization of Scientology or in major ownership of Scientology is MINIMUM misunderstandable, often clearly wrong and probably racist.

16. The German government consists of the parliament with both chambers, federal ministers, chancellor and president. Stating "German government" but meaning less than the majority of it (we are a parliamentary democracy), is MINIMUM misunderstandable, often clearly wrong and probably racist.

Probably incomplete

Effects, Results and Conclusion
To be completed.

Call for verifiable Sources until 2010-03-21

 * Although my Statements by Wispanow is mostly incomplete and is
 * lacking many details, reasons, proofs and sources which will delivered mostly until March 20, but
 * in respect to other editors, especially User:Jayen466, and in intention to give them as much time as possible until March 21, which i think is appropriate due to the severity of my claims that the article Scientology in Germany delivers in main parts a highly biased and highly inappropriate viewpoint violating Neutral point of view which i will prove for most parts of the introduction, effecting main parts of the article, until 2010-03-20,
 * although it is mostly not needed due to Verifiability:
 * This policy requires that a reliable source in the form of an inline citation be supplied for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations, or the material may be removed. This is strictly applied to all material in the mainspace—articles, lists, and sections of articles—without exception, and in particular to information about living persons: unsourced contentious material about living persons should be removed immediately.,


 * i have until now delivered enough evidence in my Final Proofs  (read it?) together with  100% Reliable Verifiable Sources  and  Reliable, Verifiable Sources  to challenge


 * all sources that claims that human rights, especially freedom of religion, is violated considerably. I call for the primary sources or sources giving otherwise a proof. Sources, even many of them, just mentioning a violation of human rights, are NOT accepted.
 * especially the introduction of Scientology in Germany except the first two sentences. Please provide additional sources for all statements. Sources, even many of them, just mentioning a statement, are NOT accepted.
 * all sources that are not available; mostly Scholarly sources. Especially i request as much text as possible from
 * all books from Besier, Gerhard, though he lost his job minimum partly as being accused to be biased and inappropriate engaged related to Scientology.
 * Browne, Michael
 * Davis, Derek H
 * Seiwert, Hubert
 * Palmer, Susan J.
 * Weber, Hermann
 * Hendon, David W.
 * Fox, Jonathan
 * though i have to check if their books are reliable sources. Google online books links will be excellent.

Please use Talk:Scientology in Germany/sources to add the sources. Enough space to state them. Please not only the inline citation: minimum several sentences before and after that.

If in a special case a longer time is needed to provide the sources, please state which source and when it can be presented. Please be aware that in the meantime the statements related to it may be made invisible.

Wispanow (talk) 01:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested Changes, Supplements or directly related Comments to the Report by Wispanow above

 * The report above uses a somehow coherent style. Please be so kind not to change anything in the report above and its subsections. Please use this section in case of requested changes, supplements or any probably inappropriate, unbalanced or wrong statement or any directly related reply, comments or questions to this report. Thank you very much.  Wispanow (talk) 09:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Wispanow (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)