User:Xaa/talk archives/amorrow

Archived discussion with Splash:

VfD Proposal
Withdrawn at the request of Amorrow, please see this article's Talk Page. Xaa 17:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: I would strongly suggest you disable the email feature via preferences; it is no accident that mine is presently switched off.
 * Reply: He isn't e-mailing me through the site, he's e-mailing me directly.  My e-mail is public, and I don't hide who I am.  The reason I don't hide who I am is so that when I contribute here or anywhere else, people know who I am, and can judge the validity and scholarly value of what I write from that.  As to why my e-mail is public, I've published over 20 novels and have been quoted in the New York Times once or twice.  I leave my e-mail open so I can keep contact with my fans. Xaa 18:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: The most obvious is to file an RfAr &mdash; a possible outcome of that is that Amorrow is banned, at which point his edits may be reverted by any user on sight.
 * Reply: An RfAr is entirely pointless, I'm sorry. First, he's *already* banned, and it's an *indefinite* ban.  But, as he's said on his website, all he has to do to get around that is use computers at libraries and internet cafes.  And as I've said before, this guy is a software engineer - Wikipedia isn't going to be able to ban him that easily.  Xaa 18:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: I hope you do not plan to leave Wikipedia over the actions of one rather disturbing user.
 * Reply: You haven't seen what he's been sending me in e-mail.  Turning off the weather report doesn't stop the storm from coming - this guy is talking about bombs and knowing where all his enemies live exactly.  Ten years ago, I'd have laughed it off.  In today's world, I don't.  I am not willing to risk death over an edit to a wikipedia article, thanks.  It's a LOT easier to simply say "Okay, you win, do what you want." Xaa 18:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: I'm sure you're aware however, that simply blanking the page leaves everything in the history.
 * Reply: I know it's in the history, and hopefully, people will read it anyway. I blanked the page to make HIM realize the fight is over.  Check out [his website] - he views that proposal as being proof of myself as a leader of some grand conspiracy against him.  By blanking the proposal, he will hopefully come to understand that he's won, and this all will hopefully end. Xaa 18:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: ''Don't be driven away by a single user. -Splash 18:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)''
 * Reply: You haven't read the e-mails he's been sending.  Xaa 18:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Archived reply to Armorrow
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Xaa%27s_Proposal"

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Mister Morrow, you really need to wake up.
 * 1) I do not run Wikipedia, nor do I want to.
 * 2) So far, I have nominated exactly one article you wrote for VfD.  It was the article on Reproduction you wrote, and it was unanimously agreed to be rambling, POV and completely unencyclopedic with zero citations.  On the VfD page, even you admitted the article stank.
 * 3) So far, I have flagged one of your articles as being a copyright violation - and that is cited both as to where the text appears on the internet, and you even admit yourself in the article's text that you typed parts of the article from a copyrighted work.
 * 4) Now, somehow, I have become "The Enemy," and you're all hot and bothered over the Elizabeth Morgan article and how I'm blocking you from telling the world the truth.  For your information, Mister Morrow, I was not being sarcastic when I said you were done.  When I wrote "This article is done", that's because You WERE done.  The article was GOOD, you had proper citations for everything, you did not need the extra crap you were trying to stick in.  THAT'S WHY I DID NOT EDIT IT.  I LIKED IT.  It was a GOOD article.  As far as I was concerned, you were DONE.  Contrary to your assertations on your webpage, I didn't insert a =) to be sarcastic.  Look at the time-date stamps.  That was my first comment to you.  I actually meant it - the article was good, you were done.

But, unfortunately, that answer did not meet your satisfaction. So, you began to argue on this page, then rant, then suddenly you began rambling on and on and on about civil-war armies and blood and sex and how you wanted to sniff Morgan's crotch and have sex with her daughter. And did you stop there when people asked you to stop? No, you kept right on going, rambling on and on about how Wikipedia was a huge consipiracy against you, how the opera Turandot had relevance to the Morgan article and needed to be included in the article amoung it's citations - and all of this in between inserting various comments about how you'd had psychotherapy and how your own child had been taken from you, so this had become your personal crusade. Then, when you get banned from here twice, you post a hateful page on your website that lambastes me as being the leader of some grand conspiracy against you here on Wikipedia, and begin filling my e-mail box with even more of this odd, eerie and flatly frightening prose, in e-mail after e-mail written from both your home and from work. Some of them, to me, even look like death threats.

Mister Morrow, I say this with all possible respect and without any intent to offend: Have you ever considered that, looking back on all the scary, creepy comments you wrote about Elizabeth Morgan, a woman you don't even know, that this kind of behavior is having the opposite effect to what you are trying to accomplish? Think about it - I am an occasional contributor to Wikipedia who is considered so trivial that my votes on VfD have been publicly declared invalid TWICE because of the short time I have been posting here. This proposal, which you have decried on your website as my secret attempt to become a "cop" for Wikipedia, has drawn a whopping TWO comments, neither of which endorse this suggestion. And yet you're trying to present me as actually being some kind of grand conspiratorial leader of Wikipedia on your website?

Mister Morrow, I say this with all honesty: Please wake up. Your behavior is totally out of line and is actually hindering what you are trying to accomplish.

I realize that nearly all of what I have said above will fly completely over your head. And I realize that you have fixated on me as being the source of all your problems. So, I am going to make your life easier, because unlike you, I *don't* enjoy fighting. I am going to not only withdraw this suggestion, I am going to cease participating in Wikipedia.

And yes, I mean it. It is VERY clear to me that those in charge of Wikipedia can't keep you out despite banning you twice, and it's equally clear that so long as I participate here, you are going to continue to follow me around with various proxies and attack every post I make as being a post by your personal enemy. Well, I've a news-flash for you, Mister Morrow - I don't want to fight you. I never did. The war is over - YOU WON. I am withdrawing from Wikipedia. DO WHAT YOU WANT with it.

You want to edit the Elizabeth Morgan article to put in your citations? Go ahead. It's obvious nobody can stop you, you can't be banned from here. If you can edit this page, you can edit that one - so go ahead. DO WHAT YOU WANT with that page. You love to say "check the edit history." I invite you to do the same, Mister Morrow - I never changed any of your edits to that article. I was never your enemy, Mister Morrow. My first comment you to regarding the Morgan article was that of approval, not of reproach.

Xaa 17:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)