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http://www.un.org/sg/spokesperson/highlights/index.asp?HighD=4/24/2013

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=37374

http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE7670S520110708?sp=true

r. falk un. org

and Ban Ki-moon, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, admitted that the United Nations has had a bias against Israel.

My Sandbox pages
 * User:Ykantor/un1947partition


 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- Arabs attacked and started the war
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- The Mufti
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- April,May Truce proposals


 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1948-independence war- general
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- British diplomacy and policy
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- Ben Gurion territorial ambitions
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Palestine1948- May 15, Arab invasion


 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1956- Suez war causes
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/History of the Jews under Muslim rule
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1965-Jordan water clashes
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1967-Nasser- Attack Israel
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1967- junk
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1972-before the 1973 war
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel1973-war


 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/junk
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel- not an Apartheid state
 * User:Ykantor/Sandbox/Israel- not expansionist

=General=

Quotations
p. 86 Sasson concurred, and added that the Mufti had wanted (and had organised and incited) ‘troubles’, but not of such scope and dimensions.... The Arab Division of the JA-PD thought that the Mufti himself wanted quiet and that this was the official Arab position; but some of his close T H E F I R S T WA V E 8 7 associates, including Emil Ghawri, Rafiq Tamimi and Sheikh Hassan Abu Sa‘ud, were organising the ‘spontaneous’ rioting and shooting.1... In part, the AHC’s line was a response to the Arab public’s reluctance to fight. Indeed, HIS-AD officers reported that ‘most of the public will be willing to accept partition .... Towards the end of December 1947, Husseini appears to have sent AHC member and JerusalemNCleader Dr. Husayn Khalidi a letter explicitly stating that the purpose of the present actions was ‘to harass (and only to harass)’ the Yishuv, not fullscale assault.109...

Morris birth p. 88 During the second half of December 1947 and January 1948, the Mufti or his close associates appear to have tried to shift the focus of hostilities to the countryside. But the villagers were not rushing to join up115... The Mufti’s main military lieutenant, ‘Abd al Qadir al Husseini, responsible for the Judean Hills area, met a similar response at a meeting with the NC of Tulkarm...

Morris, birth, p. 89 But the Mufti’s policy regarding the countryside was also characterised by ambiguity. In late January... Both the AHC and the ALA during February-March seemed to signal Palestine’s Arabs that while low-level skirmishing by local militias and irregulars was fine and attacks on Jewish convoys, especially around Jerusalem, should be continued, a fullscale assault on the Yishuv was out of the question for the time being, though preparations for such an assault, to be unleashed just before or just after the British pullout, should be taken in hand...

p. 98

By the end of March, the Husseinis had managed to still the moderate voices in the Arab camp and had gained control over almost all of Arab Palestine. Most of the country was engulfed in warfare

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/FCBE849F43CBB7158525764F00537DCB Security Council S/PV.260 2 March 1948 TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTIETH MEETING Held at Lake Success, New York, on Tuesday, 2 March 1948 Mr. EL-KHOURY (Syria): The appeal to the people of Palestine "to take all action possible to prevent or reduce such disorders as are now occurring in Palestine" can have no effect as long as the cause of the trouble still stands. The attitude of the Arabs of Palestine has become very clear regarding the partition scheme. They consider it detrimental to their very existence, and it is not imaginable that they would accept consultation on the basis of the implementation of that scheme, although they may be ready, if that scheme is abandoned, to participate in and to contribute helpfully to consultations and to the re-establishment of order in Palestine. These consultations, however, must aim at finding another plan on the basis of justice, equity and workability for a unified future government of Palestin

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/E511BC28D0A8964A852577E0006AA2A6, Security Council, S/PV.274, 24 March 1948, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-FOURTH MEETING, Held at Lake Success, New York, on Wednesday, 24 March 1948, Mr. EL-KHOURI (Syria): The Arab States in general — I am authorized to say this in their names here... the Arabs of Palestine are just the contrary. They say, “We will agree to a truce if it is not used as a screen to shield the activities for the continuation of the implementation of the Plan of Partition.”...the Arabs certainly do not agree to the establishment of a permanent trusteeship regarding the City of Jerusalem...the Arabs consider the idea of creating a foreign state within their region, with sovereign power in Palestine, as an act of aggression, and that those who attempt to carry out this act are aggressors against human rights and the rights of the Arabs. Furthermore, the Arabs are ready to oppose such an act. The Arabs of Palestine would prefer, as I said before, to be exterminated rather than to allow such an act of aggression to go on within their country...

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/D3BC8AAA0231AAE0802564AD003974D2, Security Council, S/PV.270, 19 March 1948, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTIETH MEETING, Held at Lake Success, New York, on Friday, 19 March 1948, Mr. EL-KHOURI (Syria): they are unmistakably convinced that the partition plan and any activity in the direction of its implementation are the only causes of the acts of violence occurring in Palestine. When those causes are removed, law and order will be automatically restored....

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the problem
a lot of my contributions are removed (fully or partially), by a group of the same users. This content removal does not comply with WP:PRESERVE : "Fix problems if you can, flag or remove them if you can't. Preserve appropriate content" and WP:CANTFIX. It seems that the first priority of those users is to remove content, either in line text, footnotes (explanatory footnotes) quotes or images.

examples of an unjustified content removal

 * user:Trahelliven.
 * 1) The Diff page.
 * 2) what happened: He deleted the references, and as a by product he produced unsupported sentences. It could happen that someone will delete those  sentences during the next week, because they are unsupported. Does the references deletion make sense?
 * user:Trahelliven
 * 1) The Diff page.
 * 2) what happened: He deleted a wp:rs reference, because of an incorrect reason. But even if the reason was correct, he should have discuss it before deletion, or put an appropriate tag.


 * user:Abashir10
 * 1) The diff page
 * 2) what happened: He deleted a well supported sentence with its references.


 * user:Pluto2012
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) what happened: He deleted a well supported sentence with its references. His reason is incorrect. (the arabs rejected any form of partition)


 * user:Aua and user:Trahelliven
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine/Archive_6#Quotation_3:_Yoav_Gelber_.281_January_2006.29._Palestine_1948:_War.2C_Escape_And_The_Emergence_Of_The_Palestinian_Refugee_Problem Talk page discussion]
 * 3) what happened:user:Trahelliven started a talkpage discussion, with an all sort of esoteric and meaningless points. Within 8 minutes user:Aua deleted  the reference with the long quote.


 * user:Pluto2012
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) what happened: he deleted 2 relevant images.
 * 3) his first reason:"One picture per section is enough". This is incorrect, and anyway should have been discussed.
 * 4) his second reason:"wp:npov must be applied to pictures". I am not sure. Anyway, I am the only one who have added Images with Arabs too (in other section), so that can not be the problem
 * 5) what happened:deleted 2 photos. In my opinion images add a lot to the attractiveness of an article. It is a pity to loose images.


 * user:Aua and user:Pluto2012
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1947%E2%80%9348_Civil_War_in_Mandatory_Palestine#to_aua:_Why_did_you_deleted_.22Due_to_the_dangerous_situation_of_the_starved_and_besieged_Jerusalem.2C_Ben_Gurion_ordered_the_operation_Nachshon.7C.22 The talkpage discussion that I opened after this unjustified deletion]
 * 3) what happened: Deleted {Citation needed tag, which is against the rules. Claim of poor grammar- is that an acceptable deletion?. Claim that some terms should be expanded (i.e the opposite of being concise). Some esoteric reasons. Claim of a POV- even if it is true- he can add a balancing sentence rather than deleting it. (Nachshon started to save jerusalem and not because plan d)


 * user:Pluto2012
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) what happened: he deleted a relevant and attractive image. His reason is not relevant and unacceptable.


 * There are a lot of more examples, with more users.


 * user:Dailycare
 * 1) The Diff page
 * 2) what happened: he deleted a {Neutrality disputed tag.nothing else was changed.


 * user:Dailycare
 * 1)  Diff page]
 * 2) The talkpage discussion
 * 3) what happened: he deleted a couple of sentences with a seemingly reasonable objection. I have opened a talkpage discussion and explained. Then he had a new objection. I replied, and then he had one more objection. It repeated itself a lot of times and then he started again with an objection I have already explained. user:Pluto2012 and user:Nishidani has jouned this war of attrition. user:Pluto2012 said openly that I have to add his [mistaken] view too:"As long as you refuse, there will be endless discussions"

The proposal
The policies WP:PRESERVE and WP:CANTFIX are fine. Since those users routinely ignore the rules, there should be a penalty for ignoring it within the Arab-Israeli conflict articles. Hopefully, such penalties, will decrease the unjustified removal of content. Ykantor (talk) 15:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC) =images templates= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Photomontage


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