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Not exactly encyclopedic, but still interesting (to me at least)!

Non-native Cantonese accents:
 * Stereotypical 大陸妹 (from 甜孫爺爺):
 * (Not until my dvd drive is fixed : Depiction of a native Mandarin speaker from Mainland China.
 * Stereotypical 上海妹 (利智 in 長短腳之戀): [[media:User_yuje_cantonese_shanghai_accent_01.ogg|1]][[media:User_yuje_cantonese_shanghai_accent_02.ogg|2]]
 * A native Shanghainese person's rendering of Cantonese (perhaps exaggerrated as her character is a ditz). Nina Li is a Shanghai-born Hong Kong actress. She is married to Jet Li.

Administrators:The sound files are short dialogue clips taken from film and television. I'm not sure if this qualifies as fair use, but if they violate Wikipedia file policy, please delete them.

I'm starting a collection of sound clips of Cantonese accents that will hopefully grow in size. Not enough to grow into an encyclopedia article, but enough to satisfy my whimsy!

Cantonese has different accents from regional variation and non-native pronuciation. An example of the former is Guangxi Cantonese, which has a comparatively more Mandarinized vocabulary, lacks some tone sandhi (話 doesn't change tone in 電話), and some slightly different pronounciation (九 is gu instead of gau, 四 is si instead of sei). Its speakers would be speaking it as a native language. The latter category are people with a different native tongue trying to emulate the native sounds of Cantonese. Guangdong has non-Cantonese speakers and also Hong Kong has historical immigration of non-Cantonese speakers. Off the top of my head, some major groups are:
 * Shanghainese: Hong Kong recieved a large influx of immigrants from the Shanghai and Zhejiang area who fled as the nationalists were losing the Chinese civil war. Some sources estimate between 1-2 million Shanghai/Zhejiang immigrants to HK. If so, perhaps a fifth of the HK population could be Shanghai descended.
 * Famous Shanghainese HKers:
 * Jinyong
 * Tung Chee Hwa
 * Wong Kar-wai
 * the Shaw Brothers
 * Fei-Fei
 * Teochew: Cantonese was a lingua franca of Guangdong. Chaozhou is in Guangdong. Apparently, Cantonese was also widely used enough in pre-communist Vietnam's Chinese communities that many Vietnamese Teochew also know Cantonese. Probably why it's also so commonly called the Cantonese name Chiuchow. No idea of proportion of Teochew in HK, but apparently big enough to influence the culture. (see what I mean by unencyclopedic?) Tons of Chiuchow dim sum, and Chiuchow soup, tea, and noodles. Joey Yung's opposite in The Attractive One is supposed to have a Teochew accent.
 * Famous Teochew HKers:
 * Lee Ka Shing
 * Hakka: Also from Guangdong. No idea of accent as most I've met are flawless speakers or native Cantonese speakers who are ethnically Hakka. AFAIK, Hakka are one of the longest established groups in HK, from pre-colonial history. Probably the reason why every other HKer seems to have a Hakka grandmother or grandfather. (I'm exaggerating) Poon Choi is Hakka!