User:Zambelo/rfc

Comment requested for the user conduct of Niteshift36 and Niemti.

I had attempted to add some content to the article, but was repeatedly rebuffed from doing so, in an uncivil, hostile way including personal attacks

An attempt by a third party to draw attention to the incivility and assumption of bad faith, inviting the editors to "evaluate the new material on its merits, not based on the editor. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AWaco_siege&diff=596776405&oldid=596773532

fell on deaf ears, and was met with open hostility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Waco_siege&diff=next&oldid=596776405

"My advice is to not waltz in here and tell the "commenters" what they based their position on. Yes, you threw the obligatory "appear" in to give yourself some deniability, but it doesn't really change how it reads to me. Niteshift36

Reasons to revert the added material were simple, confrontational, and provided no real reason for removing relevant and referenced material.

Serialjoepsycho

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Waco_siege&curid=4044773&diff=597644339&oldid=597149231

"how about a little civility"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595264034

"hugevcontent fork"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595267522

"no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595268500 "if you want to randomly copy-paste over 5 kb of unedited (even link to this article remains) content from someone's biography article, making him much more discussed here than everyone else including Koresh, don't"

(Here I requested the editor use the talk page to discuss instead of reverting)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595276167 "edit all this copypasta into 1 sentence and place into an actually re"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595291480 "the fact how it links to this very article (resulting in bolded text) betrays it as a copypasta from other articleor articles; random crap literally nothing about the events leading to the ATF raid"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=595984955

I came back with new material, per points on the talk page (by other editors)

This wasn't good enough for Niemti, evidently because it was reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=596430432

"jesus christ (and I don't mean koresh), whatever 'siege'? THERE WAS NO SIEGE BEFORE SIEGE, AND NO FBI INVOLVEMENT, stupid unrelated random crap to attack some dude"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=596432460 "nobody here ageed with you, SO SORRY."

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=596434202 "Wikipedia:Consensus"

Here I decided to involve third parties, since evidently we weren't getting anywhere in a hurry, and I filed a request for mediation which both of the editors refused to participate in. "I will refuse mediation. Why? Because you haven't acted in good faith at all. You're not citing policy or making a case for inclusion, you're simply making a demand and suffering from a raging case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT" - Niteshift36

"Haha, oh wow. I don't have patience for you, but hey, go and try and convince the other people here about how so important and totally relevant all this is to what led to the ATF raid." -Niemti