User:Zaparojdik/Archives/Archive 1

Turkey
The images for the city have to be general. There are just too many images, try putting them in relevant articles. --A.Garnet 21:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The images have to be good quality. The one of Ankara is poor, the one of Bursa too dark, the one of Istanbul looks like it could be taken on any other city. Having pictures of people walking on a beach does not represent Turkey, it could be any city anywhere in the world. I've kept a few of the images you've uploaded, but please think carefully when you replace images, they are meant to represent something, not just look nice. --A.Garnet 11:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes but how many, we already have people in istiklal avenue, people around the clocktowers, the champions league game, the dervishes, we have to strike a balance, if you want to put more of people in Turkey, then you will have to remove something else. --A.Garnet 11:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Please be more attentive while editing. You have several times replaced the link to secularism with a link to secularity. Please have a look at the two articles, and I am sure you will understand which one is the most adequate. Best regards Bertilvidet 12:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * selam, bakıyorum çok resim ekliyorsun ve bazıları güzel ama şu anda wowturkey ili ilgili bir lisans sorunu yaşıyoruz ve yakında fotoğrafların silinme ihtimali var. Eğer fotoğraf yüklemeye devam edersen korkarım adminlerin gözünün içine iyice batıcak ve bütün fotoğrafları kaybedeceğiz. Ayrıca Türkiye sayfasına görüntü kalitesi düşük, gecekondu mahallelerini kapsayan fotoğraflar da koyuyorsun bazen. Yerleştirdiğimiz fotoğraflar her şehire bir tane olacak şekilde, daha net ve fotoğraf kalitesi yüksek ayrıca şehrin başka hiçbir yerde olmayan özelliklerini temsil edecek şekilde yüklenmesi gerek. anlayışın için sağol. Sorun olursa mesaj atabilirsin. Metb82 13:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. For your own sake, I recommend you to familiarize your self with WP:3RR Bertilvidet 14:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Turkey images
Image:View from Mardin to the Mesopotamian plains.jpg is one of the featured pictures at and is under a free licence. Most of the rest of the images are not under a free licence and would be deleted soon unless wowturkey.com agrees to licence them freely. Note that most of the wowturkey.com images (probably all of them) that you uploaded are wrongly tagged (using CC licences) and do not reflect the truth about their licencing, going by the English translation at User talk:A.Garnet. Please do not upload any more images that are not considered free as per WP:ICT and WP:IUP. Note that Wikipedia is not a repository of images but is a free encyclopedia from which everybody is free to copy/modify/distribute/sell content. wowturkey.com images aren't (currently) allowed to be modified or sold and hence shouldn't be uploaded into Wikipedia.-- Paddu 04:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Many of the images from wowturkey.com uploaded by you are in Category:Orphaned unfree images and will be deleted soon. Please do not upload any more copyrighted photos from wowturkey.com without a claim of fair use (in which case you would have to give a detailed fair use rationale). Also, you would have to ensure there is consensus to use the images in some article since orphaned unfree images would be deleted.
 * BTW please don't try to bypass consensus and use these images in any article. -- Paddu 06:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Central Asia
WikiProject Central Asia has finally been created! If you're interested, please consider joining us. Aelfthrytha 21:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for joining, and welcome! If you need help with anything, let me know. Aelfthrytha 14:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Images
Those are some really terrific images you uploaded a few days ago. Can you upload them over at the Wiki commons so that foreign language wikis could also make use of them? Do you also have a picture of Istanbul's Levent skyscrapers that can be inserted at the "Economy" section of the Turkey article ? I would really appreciate it. Regards--Kilhan 04:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Try adding it this way . If that still doesn't work out, take a look at how the other references/links are inserted and try to use the same syntax. Regards--Kilhan 18:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Images Turkey article
Zap, please don't call me a vandal. Learn to conduct yourself in a civilised manner. Why did i replace your images? Because they were of low quality or unrepresentative of the subject. You have a habit of uploading pictures of people, which could be people in any city, rather than an image which represents that city i.e. your picture of Istanbul. The image of Ankara is grey and smoggy and i dont know why you insist on choosing it over the one i placed. As for the folk dancers, i was in two minds about that, but i chose the dervishes because again i felt the image looked more professional. I do not remove your images for the fun of it, only ones i feel are low in quality. For example I found the one of the F-16, the Navy and the people praying in the Mosque to be very good, both quality wise and in its relevance. --A.Garnet 11:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Watch your mouth my friend. I happen to be a very proud Turkish Cypriot, and if you make such childish accusations at me again I will not be so tolerant with you in the future. --A.Garnet 13:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I am not threatening you, I am telling you not to insult me and begin to act in a civilised manner. When you lazily copy and paste entire sections from the internet, and upload a host of low poor quality pictures, you bring down the entire quality of the article, something I will not let you do. Also, at least i had the respect to leave some of your images and put some in the gallery, you have just completely removed mine and accused me of being an anti-Turkish vandal. --A.Garnet 15:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Languages
Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 15:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the translation!!

Ottoman flag
That flag that you claim as an ottoman flag is very controversial. Do you have source? Please give a reference. : Because if you read the Ottoman Flag and go to the cumhurbaskanligi web site for the insignia, that is not ottoman empire flag. It may be used by CUP which there are pics of CUP members with a flag that looks like it, but that is not even officiated bu CUP. I hope you revert your change.--OttomanReference 15:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

For citations read citing sources and not everything you read/see is true on internet, such as the change you made. You changed it to five star flag. If you are that much interested in this at least, you should put a seven star of this flag. Two mistakes does not make a right.--OttomanReference 16:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

These are all discussed. You need to read the discussions. The nation based flag that your ideas are based did not apply to Ottoman Empire. There were not a single but many flags. Ottomans, unlike Republic of Turkey, was not a national empire, read Millet (Ottoman Empire). Any way your change is not even the flag you mention, if it was intended to be a nice addition. You are making a false claim by this change. Two mistakes does not make a right. That was the main reason so fag of Turkey is not under ottoman Empire there. Learning and fixing your mistakes is not a shameful act, and makes you a bigger person. Please fix your change.--OttomanReference 16:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Atleat fight for what you said crescent moon and the star with seven angular. --OttomanReference 16:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; You know that is not official flag, you continue to defend it. You really need to respect facts. The popular ideas or propaganda does not count into facts. There is nothing I can tell to you. Because you are telling the things you should prevent under these pages. Hope with time you think about what you really want to propagate. Do not talk with me on this issue please.--OttomanReference 16:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:Turkic states
Hey there, im hanging on to dear life as usual, hehe. Regarding your message, Im not really convinced whether such a template is necessary because the term "Turkic state" itself is very debateable. Hmm yeah, my impression is that some of the opposing views seem to be inspired by nationalistic sentiments more than the actual validity of the template. But that doesnt justify the existence of the template though--Kilhan 07:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Im not entirely convinced that the old image you reverted to, is better than the newer one . You can't really see much other than the minarets and the very top of the dome amidst the trees in the park in that one. If you don't mind, ill revert to the more "whole" image. Is that fine with you?--Kilhan 14:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, like Kilhan says, its difficult to define a Turkic state. Perhaps there is a credible source on which to base a list of Turkic states. Thanks, --A.Garnet 11:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Another suggestion
Another possibility would be to move this list to a List of Turkic peoples article. What do you think? &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You wouldn't mind merging List of Turkic states and empires? &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's just that there's a difference between the Turki halklar and Türki devletler... &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the input. :) &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Üzgünüm, Türkçe bilmiyorum. ;-) I know a few words that I've actually learned here on Wikipedia. Sometimes I even edit the Turkish Wikipedia... &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Wowturkey.com images
Images in that site are copyrighted, please see Media_copyright_questions/Archive/Archive_3, where it says, that images from that site are not to be uploaded to Wikipedia. Thanks, feydey 14:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Veliko Tarnovo architecture
We seem to be having a disagreement, so here are my arguments: Hope this is enough :) Todor→Bozhinov 14:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) This architectural style can be seen anywhere in the former Ottoman Empire, not only in Turkey
 * 2) I don't know how this style emerged, but it's quite far from my notion of Turkish architecture: richly ornamented, rounded, Central Asia-like, etc.
 * 3) I don't think this style exists in other Turkic countries like Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, etc.
 * 4) Therefore, it must have emerged through the mutual contact of the Ottoman Turks with other peoples in Asia Minor, i.e. the Greeks.
 * 5) I've seen such architectural elements in Mount Athos monasteries (e.g. the higher parts of this one), so it may have shaped up even before the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans. Thus, the style may be a Greek influence on Ottoman (this means of course also Turkish) architecture, since it has little to do with the Central Asian traditions of Turkic architecture IMO.
 * Patent? What do you mean by this? Of course, this architectural style was spread throughout much of the Balkans during the Ottoman rule of the region, but I'm talking about its roots, and I don't think they're Turkish. What you said about Central Asia further consolidates this: as the Turks came to Asia Minor and the Balkans, they may have found out their original style is not adjusted to the different conditions, and they could have adopted many elements from the Greek architecture in these regions that they found when they arrived. Todor→Bozhinov 16:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You keep confusing "Turkish" and "Ottoman", two terms that are not equal and are even often contradictory. These houses (referring to Tarnovo in particular) belonged to rich Bulgarian merchants and were built by Bulgarian masters (e.g. Kolyu Ficheto, who worked specifically in Tarnovo and the area). Also, many of the Ottoman notables were not of Turkish/Turkic origin, but were voluntarily Islamized Greeks, Albanians, Slavs, etc.
 * As for Greek architecture, Greek Revival is a revival movement of Ancient Greek architecture. You don't think Greeks lived in houses all with those classical columns, pediments and so on in the Middle Ages, do you? Todor→Bozhinov 16:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Was Mehmed-paša Sokolović an ethnic Turk? What about Manuc Bei or Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan Pasha? They were all non-Turkic, but Ottoman. Many, if not most Ottoman Grand Viziers were not Turkic, but Islamized Europeans.
 * The Turks in Bulgaria aren't an Islamized local people, but the Pomaks (Muslim Bulgarians) are. The Turks in Bulgaria are Turks as much as those in Turkey, and no one claims they aren't. They arrived here from Central Asia via Anatolia and have no Balkan roots.
 * As for Kolyu Ficheto, not sure I understand. He didn't rebuilt anything, all of his constructions (bridges, houses, public buildings, churches) are unique works of art, that's why he's the best known Bulgarian architect from the period. And his works, as well as most houses of this type (excluding these), are not made of wood, but mainly stone and other materials. Todor→Bozhinov 17:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * There were almost no Greeks in Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, etc... The style was spread to these areas, as well as to what is today eastern Turkey, by the Ottoman Empire. I just don't think its origins are Turkish, that's all :)
 * There's no reason the remove the reference to Bulgarian National Revival, since this is the name this style is known under in Bulgaria. There are many examples of this style all over the country and it's called Bulgarian National Revival in many articles. It refers to the period these houses were built (18th-19th century) and doesn't imply this style is only Bulgarian or something like that. But anyway, if you like that article like that, then I'm OK. Todor→Bozhinov 18:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't get the one about Genoa, the pictures and my cloudiness, but never mind :) I see you're learning Bulgarian, успех! Hope you're not finding it too difficult. Todor→Bozhinov 20:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Ottoman architecture
You seem to be having a rather peculiar view on the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Turkish language has nothing to do with architecture and culture. As for the Turks in Bulgaria: yes, they are Bulgarians in the meaning of citizens of Bulgaria, not in an ethnic sense. Just like the Bulgarians in the Ottoman Empire were subjects of the Sultan. The Grand Viziers of Bulgarian origin (Kalafat Mehmed Pasha, Filibeli Hafız Ahmed Pasha) can safely be considered Bulgarian Ottoman people, just like Sokollu Mehmed Pasha was Bosniak/Serbian Ottoman, the Köprülü family were Albanian Ottoman and many other figures were Ottoman, but not ethnic Turkish. The Ottoman Empire was an eastern, multi-cultural society &mdash; unlike Turkey, it was not a nation-state of the Turkish people, and many areas of public life were dominated by prominent Islamized Christians (i.e. not ethnic Turks).

Now about the real thing (your arguments seem not to be related to the topic): As I pointed out previously, the Ottoman architecture has little to do with the Turkic architectural traditions, and is thus not (solely) Turkish. It was spread all over the Balkans and Anatolia during the Ottoman Empire and employs elements largely borrowed from other traditions. So, Ottoman architecture can be considered Albanian, Bulgarian, Greek, Serbian, Turkish, which merely indicates the geographic distribution, not its origin, which is in any case mixed (i.e. not solely Turkish, as I said).

Therefore, I urge you to remove the "Turkish" part from the Ottoman architecture line in the template, since it is very misleading and factually wrong. If you'd like to write an article specifically about Turkish architecture (pre-Ottoman, as a subset of Ottoman architecture and post-Ottoman), which is currently an inappropriate redirect, then that would be great, but it's a separate thing. Todor→Bozhinov 12:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You seem to be going on with reverting, not only me but other users as well, and the reasons you cite are completely irrelevant and almost always factually wrong. The issues of language and state have little relation to architecture, and that's exactly what we're arguing about. Please make yourself familiar with my arguments above and answer them instead of claiming that Ottoman architecture is "Turkish and only Turkish", which is totally undue. Todor→Bozhinov 10:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Roma
Do not accuse other edits of being "anti-Turkish" or anti-anything for the edits they make. One must view the activity of editors as in good faith unless there is serious evidence to the contrary. If you do that again, I will open up a RfI for personal attacks. Besides, the number of Roma in Turkey really has nothing to do with the Turkish people, so why do you see a connection? CRCulver 14:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, I notice that you delete information about Romanlar in Turkey, and describe these information as anti-Turkish. I am a bit curious howcome you think that giving information about the Romanlar is anti-Turkish. Would you please explain. This request is meant serious, that I would like to know how you see the issue. Most Romanlar in Turkey are very proud of being Turkish, therefore I am curious to understand you viewpoint. Oh by the way, removal of information can be considered as vandalism. Happy editing. Bertilvidet 20:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe this article will have your interest. I am curious to know if you consider the Hürriyet paper as anti-Turkish. Bertilvidet 08:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Jemten and Celikokte
Selam Savaş, is there any connection between you and these two users? Both of the accounts are brand new, and it seems kinda odd that they would start their contributions reverting to your version of the article. If they are you, please review WP:SOCK. It's okay to have multiple accounts, but when you use them abusively (i.e. to evade the three-revert rule) it is considered against policy. Please let me know...I don't want to have to go to checkuser. &mdash; Khoikhoi 03:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, I hope there are no hard feelings if I just check. BTW, Bursa is pretty close to Kırklareli, isn't it? Do you know any Çingene? &mdash; Khoikhoi 05:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Interesting, thanks. I don't think it's Türk Düşmanlığı because it doesn't really have anything to do with ethnic Turks, it's just about the number of Roma living in Turkey. The fact that there may be more Roma than you think does not mean that they replace Turks—they still stay the same. :) Therefore, whatever their number is, Turks are not effected. Ciao. &mdash; Khoikhoi 04:38, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire
Is there any study you can show (real citation) that claims Ottoman Empire is a colonial empire? If you look at the text, it was on purpose the text did not includes pre industrialization as these empire's transferred raw materials from their colonies. Which raw material did Ottoman Empire transferred from its colonies, soldiers? It would be goodly nice of you to revered your changes regarding this issue. --OttomanReference 12:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Please; This will help you alot Citation--OttomanReference 13:24, 23 September 2006 (UTC).

History template
You are correct about the Urartian language. Nobody is claiming otherwise. Take a look at Template:History of Iran and Template:History of France and then tell me what you think.--Eupator 18:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Please tell me you realize that if a language is agglutinative that doesn't mean it's realted to another agglutinative language. In fact most agglutinative languages are unrelated to eachother. Anyway that's besides the point, Urartu is part of the history of Armenia in the same way Gaul is part of the history of France. Another example would be how the Minoan civilization is part of Greek history even though Minoans did not speak an IE language from what we know. Btw, since so very little is known about Urartu some scholars have suggested that the ruling class of Urartu spoke Hurrian, and they ruled over IE speakers. Kind of like how earlier IE rulers of Mittani ruled over Hurrian speakers. Remember Assyrian sources testify that Urartu was a confederation of allies that emerged as a Kingdom from an earlier alliance (Nairi) against Assyrians.--Eupator 19:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Btw, if you revert again you will be blocked, see WP:3RR.--Eupator 19:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Roma people
Bir şey değil. :-) &mdash; Khoikhoi 19:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for the barnstar! I really appreciate it. &mdash; Khoikhoi 21:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Your Question
Are you talking about the Turkmen? A google search will tell you a lot about Turkmen. Or even wikipedia.Khosrow II 21:35, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Its amazing how you call sourced information from Brittanica and Iranica propaganda. Have you ever thought that maybe you are wrong and we're right?Khosrow II 21:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Edits to Hazara
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 13:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, we will talk in the Bulgarian discussion with you :) 84.252.58.133 15:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Osmanlı Türk mimarisi
Merhaba Savaş. I reverted your move of Ottoman architecture to Ottoman Turkish architecture. Please see my explanation at the talk page. Thanks. &mdash; Khoikhoi 00:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

LOL
Yes, exactly, I'm asking for help from my other accounts, because I have dual personality disorder, and I'm actually two people in my head... LOL(sarcasm)Khosrow II 21:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Seljuq Dynasty
Bu makaleyi daha yeni goruyorum, bazilarinin selçuklular turk degildi falan dedigi dogru mu??!! Talkpage'e ben de bir not biraktim ve de makaleyi belli bir sure goz altinde tutuacagim.. cheers! Baristarim 02:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Mustafa Akalp
Hello and much regards for your efforts. Mustafa Akalp 12:21, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Merak etme, en azindan bir sure bazi makaleleri goz altinda tutmaya çalisacagim.. Pan-iranism olayinin daha yeni farkina vardim, boyle makalelerin oldugunun ve boyle pustlarin oldugundan haberim yoktu.. Adamlar resmen Selçuklar ilk once Muslumandi sonra da Iranliydi(?? - Iran'i yonetmisler, yani Allah'ini seversen ayni sey mi? Iranca ogrenmekle Iranli mi olunuyor??), Turklukle alakalari yoktu falan diyorlar ve de her lafi binbir çemberden geçirip her turlu demagojiye basvuruyorlar, var mi boyle bir sey ya.. Valla bu Wiki insanin ruh sagligi için tehlikeli :))) Talk:Seljuq_dynasty ve Talk:Turko-Iranian da epey bir post'lar yazdim, source'lar da koydum.. Bu konuda biraz yanliz kaldigini arsivlere bakinca fark ettim, tabi benim elinden gelebilecek olanin da limiti var, yirmi kisiye karsi duramam ama elimden geleni yapmaya çalisirim.. Bir kaç tane daha kullaniciya haber verdim, umarim onlar da bir el atarlar.. Tabi Turkler olarak her zamanki gibi sorunumuz organizasyon eksikligi ne yazik ki :))).. take care ve kolay gelsin!! Baristarim 12:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Link
We dont have a problem with it, its just that you keep putting it in the wrong place. Put it on the right article. Also, read up on how Wikipedia works if you do not yet know exactly how things work around here and where you place stuff and how edits should be made. Thanks.Khosrow II 15:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Im talking about the Turkish article link you keep trying to put on the Persian people page.Khosrow II 16:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

User notice: temporary 3RR block

 * Sağol, Yeah but I'm Beşiktaş fan :) ehehe :P It's bad not leaving a message to others talk page, just mine grr... Zaparojdik 22:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Gecmis olsun. I am sure this is not the worse time to leave the computer and celebrate Bursa Spor! Bertilvidet 19:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Update
Valla bunlar iyice azitmislar.. Babur, koskoca Baburnameyi Turkçe yazmis olan adami bile Iranli yapmislar, var mi boyle birsey ya?? :)) Her neyse, Britannica'dan referans buldum da Turk oldugunu yapistirdim, sikarsa çikarsinlar bakalim, wiki'de oyle bir source'u çikarmak kolay mi.. Timur, Britannica'nin bile Turk fatih diye bahsettigi adami bile kiliktan kiliga sokup Mogol yapmaya calisiyorlar.. Valla seytan diyor ki.. Her neyse, bu isin ucunu biraz daha tutacagim.. Selcuklular için de ayni sey geçerli, sayfa unprotected olsun da.. Bu pustlar Azerilere de saldiriyorlar bakiyorum.. List of Azerbaijanisda Khosrow 3RRi kirmis, onu bildirdim, bir de herkese polislik yapiyordu.. Turklerle ne alip veremedikleri varsa, tabi yuzlerce sene Selcuklular, Timur, Mughul vs tarafindan yonetilmek epey koymus bunlara.. :)) Baristarim 02:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Canvassing
Regarding edits such as this: No one is going to be 'battling' anyone. Content issues need to be worked out through discussion on the talk page, not through revert warring and CERTAINLY not through canvassing other users in the hopes they will become meatpuppets supporting your side. This sort of 'ganging up' is strictly prohibited, and if you try to encourage it again after your block expires, you will simply be reblocked. --InShaneee 21:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Ermeni meselesi
merhaba Ermeni dosyasina el aticakmisiniz. neurobio 02:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yerzhan Ashykbayev
Hi, if you have the time I would like your input on whether to delete the article on Yerzhan Ashykbayev, the Foreign Ministry spokesman of the Government of Kazakhstan. Thanks, KazakhPol 18:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. KazakhPol 22:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Attila (name)
Attila (possibly from Gothich atte, "father") is very ridiculous sentence (if Gothich is misspeled Gothic). Only tradition naming "father of" is arabo-islamic. Like Abu Ali ibn Sina (known in the West as Avicenna) where "abu" is "father of", "ali" is name of his future son, "ibn" is "son of" - Father of Ali, son of Sina. Huns during Attila has turkic origin mixed with Sarmathians of Northern Caspian Steppe upon Volga river. Volga river on Turkic languages named as Edil, Itel, Idel, Atyl. It is ancient tradition for turkic peoples naming a childs after great geographic names. Attila born upon Volga (Atal/Atyl) river and named after that as Atyl-ly where '-ly' is adjective suffix like 'de', 'von', 'van' of european notables. I propose change the sentece to Attila - possibly from Turkic Atyl/Atal (ancient name of Volga river) with adjective suffix -ly. (Compare also turkic medieval notable title atalyk - "senior as father"). Alternative version claims possibility of origin from Gothich(?) atte, "father". kk:User:AlefZet --AlefZet 06:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Template
If you want to have a navigation template (Ajax scripts are tested and working for every browser) make it as a bar so that we can easily put it where navigation templates are. Simply, you will find many people not liking a navigational template on top of many different states. Thanks.--OttomanReference 20:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Turkish History Brief
Template:Turkish History Brief has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Khosrow II 23:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

your message to me
Dear Zaparojdik, you put a message in may talk page and deleted later,Why delete? Regards Mustafa Akalp TC 17:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop
Zaparojdik, please cease immediately your spamming of talk pages. This is considered an attempt to bypass consensus by something called votestacking. Thank you. Khoikhoi 21:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It's ok, just don't do it again. :-) Khoikhoi 21:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Zap, do you know why all these Turkish editors are coming out of nowhere, almost as if they had been contacted by email? Khoikhoi 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Turan
I'm not quite sure what the issue is, but I noticed that you are edit warring on Turan with several other editors. It would be best to sort out the issue on the talk page of the article instead of edit warring over it. At a glance, it seems like the solution would be a simple citation to verify the information you are adding to the article, but at the first signs of controversy over one's edits it is best to proceed to the talk page of the article. Thank you. Cowman109 Talk 00:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Cooperation board launched
A new (and overdue) Greek and Turkish cooperation and notification board has been launched here. Stop by, have a look and sound off! Cheers! Baristarim 07:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:NPA
Your recent edit to Talk:Afsharid_dynasty is a personal attack, and per No personal attacks, such incivility towards other editors is unacceptable. Please remember to focus on content, not on the contributor. Thank you. Cowman109 Talk 15:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser
Please make a new request, stating the reason why it should be done, at WP:RFCU. Jayjg (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Merhaba Zaparojdik, I'm pretty good. Unfortunately, I don't have CheckUser privileges (only a handful of admins do). I'm pretty positive however that all of the users you listed there are definately not sockpuppets of one another. Besides that, you need to show what policy is being violated here, and you also need to provide evidence on why you think all these users are the same person. CheckUser is not for fishing. Khoikhoi 02:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * So therefore, your request would be declined anyways. Khoikhoi 05:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It looks like your initial edit here showed it as an archived request (The following discussion is preserved as an archive...). Probably everyone thought it was completed.  —Wknight94 (talk) 16:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Turkey
Bir-iki gun içinde WP Turkey'e de el atacagim. O biraz daha zaman alacagi için ilk once buradan baslayayim dedim. Ama birkaç gun içinde WP Turkey'in hem daha kaliteli hem de daha aktif hale gelecek umarim. Cheers! Baristarim 23:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Alaaddin Keykubat I
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Southwest Asia
United Nations has its own classification of regions, that doesn't mean that there is no region named "Southwest Asia". Try Googling "Southwest Asia", you get over 12 million hits. --Mardavich 18:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Where have you been? Cheers! E104421 19:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back.
I am happy to see you again in Wiki. Regards. Must TC 11:24, 23 December 2006 (UTC)