User talk:!dea4u/Archives/2009

April 2009
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Thanks
Thanks for your comments. I'll be glad to help in my small way.--Shahab (talk) 04:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Adoption?
Hello! I would like to know if you are interested in being my adoptee. I've been on and off Wikipedia since 2007 (albeit with a different account). If you're interested, leave a note on my talk page. Thanks and happy editing! - Hardtofindaname 03:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Respected, Thanks for Offer, I would like to know can i have more than one mentor?

& is it necessary to have knowledge of computer languages? -- abutorsam007 10:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It is absolutely fine if you have more than one mentor, in fact I think that's a good idea. Is there any particular section of Wikipedia you're interested in, for example articles or anti-vandalism? Additionally, I would be happy to review any articles you write or your edits.


 * Also, no, it's not necessary to have knowledge of computer languages; knowing HTML can help though. I found that as I edited more I just ended up memorizing the code I used, so pretty much it's just a matter of practicing.  Happy editing, Hardtofindaname 17:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi there
First of all - a big thanks for the positive comments- I really appreciate it I just had a quick glance of your work-I see that you have slowly started making edits on various articles- and i havent seen anything worth complaining about, you definitely looks like someone who acts with WP:AGF I will reserve my comments till a few more edits from you :) In my opinion,the first things any wikieditor should read are WP:V, WP:OR and WP:MOS I will be glad to help in case of any specific queries Happy contributing :) trakesht (talk) 17:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Email
Hi, as said before also, please avoid using "respected." I am not that knowledgeable as you think! I am quite a lot younger than you. Thanks a lot for getting adopted by me as well as by Hardtofindaname. It is really good to have more than one mentor. After clicking that link I gave in my reply, type anything as "I conform your request" or whatever in increased intend (using :). But I think you needn't do that as you have already conformed your request through e-mail. I too don't know any computer language, not even HTML. I learned HTML (somewhat) after coming to wikipedia. It is not necessary to learn a language to come to wikipedia. All you need is adequate knowledge, interest, will power, and a donating heart. Welcome to my classroom. You are given a subpage in my space and you are supposed to leave your messages there only! You can also tell Hardtofindaname about that page. The page is: User talk:Srinivas/Classroom/Abutorsam007. Please remember that talks older than 60hrs. are archived. You can also talk to me live (if I am available) here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Abutorsam007&channels=##Srinivas. Thank you, --Srinivas (talk) 11:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Have some chicken


Shahab (talk) has given you a fresh piece of fried chicken! Pieces of fried chicken promote WikiLove and hopefully this piece has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a piping hot piece, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Bon appetit!

Spread the tastiness of fried chicken by adding {{subst:GiveChicken}} to their talk page with a friendly message. . P.S. Ramzan Mubarak--Shahab (talk) 05:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for smiling


Abutorsam007, Bksimonb (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Bksimonb (talk) 11:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Hey! Thanks for dropping by.Bksimonb (talk) 11:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Srinivas/Userboxes/Languages
This user box has been fixed up just for you. Userbox at your userpage:

Hey, tell me whether you are on twitter or orkut or facebook. Twitter and orkut are first preferable by me. Facebook also chalega. -- Srin  ivas  14:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

And don't forget to check you watchlist.


 * Hi srinivas ...How are you.. Yes, now the userbox is perfect & looking very nice, initially it was some Big in Size. Great work...Thanks for nice gift :) Thanks... (Abutorsam007 (talk) 14:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)).


 * Gosh, Abu! Be careful while telling personal things. You should have emailed me rather. I have hidden the text. I have added you as a friend on orkut and facebook. Accept it. -- Srin  ivas  10:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the chicken! I do have a number of Islam related articles on my watchlist and whenever I spot vandalism I do revert it from them. What I have observed though is that since the major articles (such as Islam) are all semi-protected so the real threat to these articles is not from obvious vandalism but from systematic bias. Regards--Shahab (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Hello! Is this talk active? Why has it become inactive. Last edit to this talk: 00:29, 30 August 2009! What is wrong? Srin ivas  10:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:TW, WP:FRIEND
From your contributions, I see that you do all kinds of works, welcoming users, smiling at them, helping users, working on articles, etc etc. You are contributions are worthy. I keep observing your contribs, so beware (just a joke). I will give you an assessment record now and then, so that you can improve in wikipedia. I see that welcoming users and all are difficult doing manually. So, use WP:FRIEND. I have explained vandalism work in our discussion page. Please see there. After that if you are interested in doing vandalism work, please use WP:TW as it is easier to with that.

Some of the edits I would like to say about:


 * Here, you have added {{subst:smile}} without creating a new section. Don't do that as it disturbs other conversations!
 * It is really good that you have thanked the user for working on Indore. Please award Barnstars to the users if they have done a good thing.
 * Very good that you are making people aware of importance of citing sources. Please use cite to cite sources.
 * Please try to understand that after creating userboxes, please check how many people are using the userboxes. Then create a category, though no one is going to request for deleting it.
 * A good userbox. Please reduce the size of the pics. E.g. [[Image:Example.png|50px]] [[Image:Example.png|25px]] etc.
 * Edit summary was what which impressed me!
 * Good that you are using help desks.

A good userbox for your userpage: User:UBX/signsposts Preview on the right.

-- Srin  ivas  14:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I am very thankful to you for your kind help & guiding me, i will carefully watch, analysis, & try my best to remove the errors...Thanks...(Abutorsam007 (talk) 19:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)).


 * Okay! Good luck, -- Srin  ivas  06:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!!
Hey there!

Thank you for the lovely smile you sent me. I appreciate it. Hopefully, our meeting does no stop here.

I am sorry if I responded a little late, as I haven't been using the computer for a long time.

I have new plans to make a new WikiProject on friendship. If, by any chance, you are interested to co-partner me, please contact me.

Thanks,

Ankitbhatt (talk) 10:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

- Yes Ankit, surely i would love to work with you on new wiki project Friendship, I am interested, & count me in. Thanks. (Abutorsam007 (talk) 18:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC))

RE: Talk Page
Why thank you! I'm really glad you like it. :) You're welcome to take the design and use it for yourself for sure; I don't mind at all. After all, I cobbled it together from dozens of different userpages. Cheers, Master of Puppets  - Call me MoP! :D  03:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And one of the user pages from which MOP cobbled is mine! -- Srin  ivas  06:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why have you deleted your last post here, Abu! By the way, me, ZooFari and MOP are good at graphics and templates. So you can ask anyone of the above as you know all of them! -- Srin  ivas  14:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey! You're talking about using my userpage template on your page, right? Master of Puppets  - Call me MoP! :D  05:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, M talking about using your userpage template on my page(if you dont mind), Though i would like to have some moidifications in it. Thanks. ( Abu Torsam  11:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)).

Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --SineBot (talk) 17:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for Advice, please tell me where did i made the mistake, as generally i sign up talk pages, except when i insert a Welcome quote or smile to anybody,(as my sign automatically add to it) (Abutorsam007 (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)).


 * SineBot is a bot and you can't talk to him. Even after smiling at others, please add your signature. Please smile at others like this: the second param supports signature. After welcome templates add ~.

smile preview:



Abutorsam007, has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Srin ivas  09:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.


 * Srin ivas  09:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You haven't signed in ZooFari's talk and sine bot auto signed it here  --  Srin  ivas  09:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi!
Well the tag "importance" has redirected to "Notability" fro some time, there are currently no articles that use "importance" so there's no point having it documented as separate. Now someone wants to reuse the template for another purpose, so I have removed it from many many lists. Incidentally a lot of other stuff on those lists is out-of-date, it is better to transclude a more central list like tools  or Template messages. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 21:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC).

- Ok, as time will go on i will be understanding policies of Wikipedia. Please guide me; Since we use tools or templates for our flexibility & efficiency; which one is best to use: tools or Template messages as you told me above. & hows this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages .. Since all of them provide us idea about usage & knowledge of templates & are nearly same. If i remove Toolbox from my userpage which one should be more usefull to me.(I personally think will be good to replace with current toolbox). Please Guide...(Abutorsam007 (talk) 12:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)).
 * Really it is whichever you find more useful, your choice. Rich Farmbrough, 12:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC).
 * Hmm..Are all three links above same? But in your opinion which are best, as i am new here, don't know much about usage of templates, so which would be best? or i need to use combination of all 3 or whatever. (Abutorsam007 (talk) 12:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

I would say Tools is simpler. You ocould use that and Template messages - that covers a lot more templates. Rich Farmbrough, 12:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC).

Contributions Feedback
Hello, Abutorsam. This is your contribution feedback by me. This is about how you are progressing on wiki! And also a few comments, tasks, and barnstars are included. The following are your list of contributions from September 2 to September 4 (selected), and comments about them.
 * This is your basic level introduction to Vandalism. Please continue reverting edits like this. The edit summary provided is Undid revision 311410284 by 72.95.208.82 (talk) which is default. Provide an extended edit summary like this: Undid revision 311410284 by 72.95.208.82 (talk): .
 * Very good removal of the content but the edit summary was not proper. removed irrelevant nameas per relativity (Maybe this is correct, i dunno) but the text you removed is non-neutral. NOPV policy has been explained by me in our discussion page.
 * good that you are creating pages with !
 * good edit!
 * '''Please create a new section for smile and talkback, please. I had already told this to you as it disturbs other threads/sections/conversations.
 * appreciateable edit!!! :P
 * I notice that you are using twinke.
 * you have encouraged the user in a good way. Please don't use standard templates as far as possible. Write it down manually and explain things in detail.

That is all guy, I think you are interested in vandalism work. Patrol Recent Changes and help wikipedia. If you are doing good, I will check your edits are request some admin to grant rollbacker right to you. Follow the link to see what it is. You are from Indore, so, please try to develop the Indore article. I will help if you want. It has poor references. Please keep checking my Tutorials page as I will be creating new tutorials frequently in it to help new users. And I assign you a task: You are going to improve Indore as far as possible this month. If you succeed, I will award you a barnstar. Come to our discussion page for help. This is my first task. Please check out my classroom page to see my way of teaching or mentoring in wikipedia.

Please archive your talk page. See WP:ARCHIVE for help. -- Srin  ivas  15:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Cluebot archive code
Hello Abu. Here's the code (template) that you post on top of your talk page:

Feel free to use this if you prefer monthly archives. I automatically entered the archiveprefix parameter under your user name. I don't know what the format field is, but mines is Y/F. The age is how long you want the section to be on your talk paged (untouched). I think it is in hours, so the code above is set to 80 like mine. Feel free to change the age to determine how long you want the sections out of archive. I don't know what index is, but mine is set to no. The archivebox field is either a yes or a no, and determines whether or not you want the template displayed on your talk page (mine is set to yes, so you can see it on mine) but you can always change to no to disable view. The box advert is also a yes or no. It just determines whether or not you want to credit Cluebot III in the template. This is completely optional and you can always manually archive even with the bot archiving automatically. Once you place the code on your talk, Cluebot will start archiving old discussions. Let me know if you have questions :-)  Zoo Fari  04:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Progress Report!
You are doing really good on wikipedia. You have made less edits to wikipedia since 4th so, I don't have much to comment. You have done a good job. You haven't worked on Indore since september 2009, so it appears that you aren't working on my task! The article has got very less references. -- Srin  ivas  14:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hi....
Hello! Nice to meet you too. :) I'm no longer as active on Wikipedia as I used to be. A better place to reach me might be Orkut itself. ;-) --thunderboltz(TALK) 21:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ujjain:Education
I do not agree with the edits you made here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ujjain&oldid=315545743#Education If the issue is advertising then the private engineering college and medical college which you have left intact should also go...in fact only the state run Vikram University should be allowed to remain...all other private colleges have come up only in the last decade or so..hence I do not see reason in keeping some but removing others.Schools which are blatantly advertising should be removed, however I am not sure if it is appropriate to remove famous schools which have provided references too.Also, the SSLC is not a board of education, it would be more appropriate to mention MPBSE there instead.I also found the language and punctuation inappropriate Sachinsharma188 (talk) 00:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Respected, on my edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ujjain&oldid=315545743 I had already expalined in short: Rewrittern section,  removed irrelevat(advertising data),  make it more neutral, Added oldest & first names only.)
 * 1st: point i would like to take is Initially there was massive advertising by many institutes, I had removed them, & only placed those who represent Education in Ujjain. I had included all Govt Aided institutes, & case of private: If you are concerning about R.D.Gardi Medical College, & Mahakal Institute of Technology (Ujjain). The names of institutes which i had placed, are first, in order of their establishment in city, & first one in their Genre so only placed them, Also point of my description is valid in sense of neutrality & notability, as I am not saying that these 2 colleges are best. No issue over it.
 * 2nd: Apart from these I had asked experts to check the issue. So that's why i rewritten the whole article.
 * 3rd: In case you need to have included the FAMOUS SCHOOLS as told by you, their article already existing, me myself handling article of Saint Paul School, & ujjain public schol. you can have separate category for them ,but not to be included in This Main Article which represents the Ujjain as an Neutral entity. I had taken into consideration Articles from many cities.
 * 4th: & one thing which you told "the SSLC is not a board of education, it would be more appropriate to mention MPBSE there instead." I do agree with you on this issue, but main thing is i was also desirable to put up MPBSE, but its a Unique term of education while SSLC is generic term, that is MPBSE denotes MAdhya Pradesh state while SSLC is system of education in whole India, So we may put MBBSE in place of SSLC once the MPBSE validation is completed( as such SSLC is also not wrong), So both are correct.
 * 5th:Language and punctuation inappropriacy would be corrected as need & time permits.
 * 6th: Apart from all these other things which the section & article is not following as per NOR, V,WP:NPOV

Please help in improving the Article. Thanks ( Abu Torsam  08:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC))

Ujjain - Education
I agree that a separate section needs to be developed instead of merging all the content with the main Ujjain article...I will try to contribute if I get some reliable references too Sachinsharma188 (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

My signature
LOL anybody would think you were a sock of me with the 007 and sig too! Himalayan   21:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My friend, Yes people may think, but we both are different entities, What does it means "with the 007"? I hope, now its ok :) Well i wish to learn a lot from you in wikipedia, & looking towards you for your kind guidance (    Abu Torsam    15:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)).

Welcome!What topics are you interested in? Himalayan  15:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I am new so you guide me which is right for me!!!. As such i like creating new articles, but have no idea about how to get proper references, i would like to know more about How to make things work as per wikipedia Policies like How can i make a stuff Wikifiable e.t.c... I also wish to know about Licensing, & exact procedures & way of working of Uploading righty stuff to wikipedia & Commons.(   Abu Torsam    09:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC))

Well we don't accpet copyrighted material. Articles even as hard as it may be sometimes must be written in your own words compiling sources into our own version, when it is basic facts, facts aren't copyrightable themsevles but they need to be written in a way that still looks as if you took the time to reorganise it. Whenever you write an article google search for sources, google books is also a good way to find more credible sources. When you reference a claim you add the ref tags that says below "Cite your sources" and you include the url of the source. As you get better you'll get used to adding a cite web in which you can fill out your references within them which you should do. As for uploading to the commons, go to the commons and click upload, now read what licenses we accept. You cannot copy photos from other sites unles syou have permission to use them. FLickr images must have a Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 or 3.0 sharealike license only licese which unfortunately means that most of them are not accpetable but you'll still find some 20 million images there we can use. Himalayan   10:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you
For the kind words. Regards, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
Do not be concerned about the creator of an article trying to stop it from being deleted. This is perfectly natural, and most of the actions are acceptable. Those at AfD are used to seeing both good and bad attempts to save articles and will respond accordingly. You will also have noticed that the reason it is most likely to be deleted is WP:CORP - not lack of references or needing to be wikified, we have many articles with one or both of these problems. Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 12:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC).

Portal:Madhya Pradesh
In the Category Page to India ,It was instructed that there should be no Direct link to that page and all linking should be through the relevant subcategories. Hence, while cleaning up all articles which directly linked. I changed the category for the portal too. --Vinay84 (talk) 02:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

hi mr.Abu
i m an indorite.my name is anas khan.i want to talk you on various matters.please give me your mobile number.i will be greatfull to you (117.98.65.135 (talk) 20:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC))
 * hello, Anas K. It would be great working with you, on improvements in Wikipedia. You can E-Mail me for any issue( just send me an Email via link given on my userpage). Thanks.(   Abu Torsam    13:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC))

Deletion of Ranker's Point
Good work bro...dont get pressurized by anyone to restore the article...the person who started the article may have some commercial interests Sachinsharma188 (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi bro. Thanks for motivation. we would work more consistently to improve our old performance,Please add up all city related pages like ujjain, Indore e.t.c in your watchlist. & check out for blatant advertising, & false info being added to wiki's. Have a nice day. (    Abu Torsam    13:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)).