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Your GA nomination of California Gurls
The article California Gurls you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:California Gurls for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 11:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC) I'm really sorry but I've failed it, it's not something I like to do. Please see Talk:California Gurls/GA1 as to why. Can I strongly recommend that you apply my points to Super Bass and check the articles references throughly before I review it so that it is more likely to pass, as I just looked at Super Bass and it has the same sort of mistakes in the references, such as improper use of italics, missing publishers, etc. I will do a prose review while you amend the references for Super Bass. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 11:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Super Bass
Take as much time as you need, but I can't give you anymore than two weeks. That would mean by July 5th. Statυs (talk) 13:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback
Statυs (talk) 05:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey!
I've noticed I haven't seen around Wikipedia lately lol. Then I came to your talk page and seen why, if you ever wanna talk I'm here! Cheer up,  teman13  TALK  CONTRIBUTIONS  20:59, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Statυs (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

RE
Nowhere, I kinda messed up lol! But it does suck what you said about everyone leaving :(, but I think with all the new people coming it it'll bring a new flavor to Wikipedia! :)  teman13  TALK  CONTRIBUTIONS  00:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Super Bass
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Your GA nomination of Hummingbird Heartbeat (song)
The article Hummingbird Heartbeat (song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Hummingbird Heartbeat (song) for things which need to be addressed. Till 07:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Your GA Nomination of Champion
Hello,

I am reviewing your recent GA nomination, Champion. Status has suggested that your nomination of Champion for good article reviewing is premature. Could you decide what to do on the article's talk page (here). Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 10:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Your GA Nomination of Champion → Closure
Hello!

I have noticed that you and fellow editors have concluded to withdraw the nomination of Champion. I (as Calvin999 said) have no choice but to Fail the article at the moment, however, I would love to review it again, when and if Minaj eventually decides to release it, as it is my all-time favourite song of hers. Thank you for your hard work on this article so far and I hope to work with you again in the future! Jennie | ☎ 22:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hummingbird Heartbeat
Hello. The article has failed its GAN as the remaining issues weren't fixed. You may renominate the article at any time. Thanks. Till 00:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Electro house
Hi, I noticed that you added the alternate name "synth house" to the electro house page. I've been interested in electro house for a few years and done research on the topic, but I've never come across the phrase "synth house" before. Can you elaborate on where you got this alternate title? Thanks. -- Diskon (talk) 03:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey lol! I'm a huge fan too! I've been doing research for the composition of Katy's "Firework", and MTV said that it had a "synth house beat" and went on to compare it to Calvin Harris. Similar to electro rock, I've people refer to "synth" as "electro" a lot when describing genres. For example, synth rock and synthpop. --(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 03:29, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Genres
Hi CA! You've guys have done an incredible job on the album's article. I'm not trying to cause problems, but some of the wikilinks for genre were really out there. Especially just assuming some genres are another genre re-named. That's kind of taking liberties with the meanings. Otherwise I urge you to keep working at the album's content and articles. I think the previous genre discussion above also suggests you are changing genres around. It's best to keep it simple, don't you agree? If you can't find a definition of a genre, then perhaps don't wikilink it like that. Keep up the great work with all the other aspects of that article though. Are you going to nominated it for FA in the near future? Andrzejbanas (talk) 21:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Wide Awake (Katy Perry song)
Hi,

I'm a little busy at the moment unfortunately, I'm sure someone will be along to review it soon though. :) —Jennie | ☎ 21:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
— AARON  &bull; TALK   22:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Just the references to do. —  AARON  &bull; TALK   22:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright :) Sorry for the hold up, I haven't been on in a little bit.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 22:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You've not done several of them. —  AARON  &bull; TALK   23:53, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You just need to format FN28, the EW ref. Then that's it. —  AARON  &bull; TALK   17:38, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Help?
I'd love to review the "Freedom" article for you! I'm in the midst of an edit to her biography as we speak, so I'll get to it shortly! WikiRedactor (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

GA review for Freedom (Nicki Minaj song)
I just put the article on hold until the 21 and left some adjustments to consider, but I'm sure that this can all be addressed before then. Good work! WikiRedactor (talk) 17:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I saw your corrections and I passed the article! WikiRedactor (talk) 18:10, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

A little favor...
Might you be interested in doing the GA review for Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up? (Part of the overhaul I did was reviewing each reference, so that would be one less major thing to worry about.) WikiRedactor (talk) 19:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries! Thank you anyway! WikiRedactor (talk) 19:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Me again lol
Hey there! The Re-Up is still waiting for a reviewer, so I decided to revamp a few Christina Aguilera articles in my freetime. And sure, I'll do the review! WikiRedactor (talk) 20:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Good work with the article! Just a couple small tweaks I'd like to see addressed, then we'll be good to go for GA promotion! WikiRedactor (talk) 20:55, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tweaks, I passed the article! WikiRedactor (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Question...
I've been rewriting some Britney/Christina articles, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in reviewing the GANs for any of them. So far I have: Don't worry if you're don't feel like taking any of these on, there won't be any hard feelings, I promise! :) WikiRedactor (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Back to Basics (Christina Aguilera album)
 * Britney (album)
 * Beautiful (Christina Aguilera song)
 * Can't Hold Us Down

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Talkback
I've reviewed the nomination. — AARON  &bull; TALK   16:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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Stas Dance and Dance
Personally I would leave it out as the other genres sort of exemplify that it's a "dance" oriented kind of music. My main thought pattern before adding something is I ask myself "would adding this make the user understand what this article is about any more than something else?". In this case, I'd lean towards it wouldn't. I'd ust make sure the sources call it that kind of music and not just incorporating it or something. Hope that helps. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

RE: Review
My concern is that the album was only released a few days ago, and it might be a little early to put the song up for GA. I would suggest withdrawing the review for a little bit to see if/how the song may impact songs charts, because you would need to create a "commercial performance" section for that information. After we see how that plays out, then I would recommend you renominating the article and I'd be more than happy to review it!(: Other than that, the article looks to be in good shape, though I will point out that only printed works need to be italicized in the references. WikiRedactor (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Come & Get It
Hi! I think i misjudged you, sorry for this. And about the article, I asked an administrator to know what he thinks about the tribal-electropop source as a genre in the infobox. Anyway i thought that search for another reference for electropop could be better because this is a little bit confusing. What do you think? And i also want to ask if you could help me to edit the user page. I mean, where can i get that boxes and all that stuff. I don't know if you can understand me. Thanks! Justasaddream (talk) 17:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Haha yes, i really don't know how to edit my user page and add all the sections, colors, boxes... And i think the genres you choosed are okay, i also through about moombahton but i couldn't find any valid source. I'm gonna search for a good only electropop source. And can you tell me what is a sandbox? Justasaddream (talk) 17:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Birthday (Selena Gomez song)
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Re:Review
Yes, I can do that for you! ChicagoWiz 19:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! ChicagoWiz 20:00, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Lol okay! ChicagoWiz 20:14, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

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Template Lady Gaga
Hi! What I meant by the "wrong order" was that the box should represent the singles and the promotional singles and other songs in separate sections, starting from the first release ending to the latest one. -- Puisque (talk) 00:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Re:Forget Forever
I've deleted the review page, so someone else can take up the review. J Milburn (talk) 08:42, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've taken up the review myself, and left you some comments. Not a bad article! J Milburn (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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Genre need sources and references for all Jamiroquai articles
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Template: Carly Rae Jepsen singles
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"Dark Horse"
Hey (CA)Giacobbe, I've noticed your Katy Perry-related efforts and - first, congratulations. Second, I've seen your "Dark Horse" sandbox, and I think we should replace the page as it is now with the content of your sandbox. We could do some adjustments, etc, and see if it could reach GA status.

Oh, by the way, do you review GA nominations? If you do, could you do the review for "By the Grace of God (song)"? Since you weren't involved whatsoever with the page... It's up to you. Just let me know. Thank you! Prism  △  21:07, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * If you could expand anything about it... can you do it? I'll cancel it if you're willing to. Prism   △  19:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Expansion of "By the Grace of God"
It's done, I guess. Prism  △  19:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * If you're willing to, I think now you can review it, I mean, I expanded both composition and background sections. Prism   △  18:17, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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"Double Rainbow"
Hi, I'm almost finishing an article for "Double Rainbow", though I'm missing quite a bit from the Composition section. I can't seem to find more information about the lyrics and the song, could you try to write that for me? I'm sure our goal is to make every Prism song a GA, so hopefully you'll help me. :) prism   △  22:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes it is. :) prism   △  22:50, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * If you're willing to review it then go ahead please :) By the way in the weekend I'll also review "It Takes Two" if you nominate it. prism   △  18:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Prism
Hey, do you want to work in team? We should continue working on the Prism articles. What article do you want to do? I'm thinking of going with This Is How We Do or Spiritual. I mean, you do an article and I do another one. prism  △  20:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – Yeah that sounds good! I know there's 6 articles left ("This Is How We Do", "International Smile", "Ghost", "Love Me", "This Moment", and "Spiritual"). I was thinking I would do "Love Me", "Thi::::No its Moment", and "Spiritual", if you'd like to split up the work? However, if you'd like to do Spiritual instead, I'd gladly take International Smile.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 20:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure! I'll start on "International Smile" (so ironic, it's my least favorite song on the album) prism   △  20:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – I'll gladly do it lol, it's one of my favorites! Would you rather do "Spiritual"?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No it's fine! prism   △  20:53, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – I was secretly hoping you'd say yes lol, I really wanna do it.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, OK, you can do it. :) By the way, "Roar" has just passed its GA! prism   △  20:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

– Good job bro! It's great to have someone so dedicated on the KP team!--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 20:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I really like her and I agree with you, that the best way of rewarding an artist is by providing others information about them. Though I'd prefer Prism to be a darker album, lol. In the vein of Rated R. prism   △  21:07, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – Yea me too. It's all John's fault lol. Hopefully we'll get that self-sabotaging fifth album.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 21:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I could totally see her delving into MTV Unplugged territory. "Hackensack" continues to be one of my favorite recordings by her. prism   △  21:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – OMG SAME! It's without a doubt one of her best. There's no better climate than now to release a song like that and have it smash.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * She should just stop working with Dr. Luke. What I'd like from her would be a mature and delicate record, with occasional references to double entendres, haha. By the way, I'm going to work a bit more on "Choose Your Battles", though I can't find many reliable sources referencing it. Just Refinery29 and Gigwise, not much more. prism   △  21:35, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

– Yeah I originally wanted to do that one but the sources are so dried up. Shame, it's quite a good song. Gia co bbe  talk 00:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Choose Your Battles for deletion
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Notability
I'm not too sure about making articles for all the Prism tracks per the notability standards mentioned on the "nomination for deletion" page for "Choose Your Battles". However, you both could work on them on the Katy Perry Wikia, where I'm sure they'd be unquestionably welcomed. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 15:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – As long as there is enough info (which there is for Prism), I'll think we'll be okay. By charting, they already meet the notability guidelines. However personally, for some users, that isn't enough. It all depends on the individual songs.-- Gia co bbe  talk 22:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The South Korea chart you keep using isn't exactly a notable one, though. It's not based on info amount- it has to do more with impact that Wikipedia standards are concerned about. I'm sorry, but most of the Prism songs fail WP:NSONGS as explained on his talk page. See that for detail. Only the singles and promotional singles tend to be notable enough to meet Wikipedia standards. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * {ping|XXSNUGGUMSXX}} – It is notable, since it's the main chart in South Korea... You keep bringing up impact yet no one has agreed with you on that, there are no rules about impact, in YOUR personal opinion, a song needs to have an impact on the artists career to be an article. Using your logic, every song on Prism has sold thousands of copies in one of the biggest countries in the world, and managed to chart on it's most prestigious chart, therefore having an impact in that country. And yes, articles are COMPLETELY based off of information available, that's one of the basic things about Wikipedia. Articles that have very little information on them don't get created. For future reference, I'd suggest reading up these things beforehand, and please, stop trying to use "impact" as a way of trying to justify an article for being un-notable, there is literally no basis to that here.-- Gia co bbe  talk 22:38, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "Impact" is a term I use to refer to "significance" or "notability". Per the standards at WP:NSONGS, lots of song articles created fail notability. It's not based on my personal opinion, though. I was saying that the amount of information isn't the problem. The problem is notability level. The chart isn't regarded as notable since it doesn't make headlines or anything. It isn't because of it being the main chart of the area or anything. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

– According to WP:NSONGS:"Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." Every song on Prism has enough information to meet these guidelines, regardless of notability. From a Western standpoint, sure the chart may have little significance, but in South Korea, this is their Billboard Hot 100, and is always in the news. Either way, every song on Prism meets WP:NSONGS.-- Gia co bbe  talk 22:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * While amount of information is important, notability level is even more important. Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:50, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Please point me to where it says notability is more important? As it states, besides notability, as long as there is enough information (which there is), an article can be created.-- Gia co bbe  talk 22:51, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Per the explanation gave on the "AFD" section on his talk page to . To quote him:


 * "What it comes down to here, as it does with all songs (in this case), is what makes a song notable by itself: Is it very popular, is it unusual in a way that makes a wide number of people talk about it especially, do a large number of artists cover it, and so on. WP:NSONG is very specific about song notability. By the very nature of things, not every song on an album is going to be notable, regardless of how famous the artist is, or how famous the album is. The whole idea of notability is that it isn't inheritable. I have seen song articles become GAs and then be deleted entirely a couple of weeks later: an article can be quite well written and sourced, and have a bunch of information, yet be about someone or something that simply isn't notable by Wikipedia standards. Having read both "Double Rainbow" and "Choose Your Dreams", I don't see that either song is notable, but I realize that my view, though backed up by the WP:NSONG criteria, may not prevail. I've seen this with other artists and albums, and if they come through DYK where I am active, I will point out notability issues, and start AfDs where appropriate."


 * He also mentions "It's never fun to have your work undone, but if you continue to work on songs that Wikipedia standards say aren't notable, you should be prepared for this to happen again."


 * Also, chart isn't based on location. If a song only charted in the United States or Canada without charting anywhere else, it wouldn't exactly be notable either. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:56, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * At the end of the day, that user is just a user, not a moderator or an admin, his opinion does not mean the final say. "Choose Your Battles" meets these guidelines, and trying to get it deleted could be seen as a personal bias towards that member, as it has already passed notability. Since there is an obvious agreement that the article should be kept, I'll be closing the discussion.-- Gia co bbe  talk 23:01, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't call it "obvious"..... This certainly isn't because of a bias, though..... XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:02, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I know you're a good editor so I wouldn't assume it was because of bias, but you have to look at Prism's perspective and understand that it looks like you're trying to stop the creation of articles that have the ability to be created, even if that may not be the case. And so far, it's 4 keeps to 1 delete. I guess I'll wait a bit to see if there is any new contributors.-- Gia co bbe  talk 23:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is 2 deletes to 4 keeps. I would suggest you two extend the articles at Katy Perry Wikia. You certainly wouldn't see it all go to waste there. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Therefore, the consensus is to keep the article.-- Gia co bbe  talk 23:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just posted to the AfD. Basically, (CA)Giacobbe, you're making a fundamental misinterpretation of WP:NSONG. If an article fails to meet the criteria for notability, it's non-notable. No ifs, ands, or buts. When it goes on to quote the bit about "Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate", it's saying that even if the song might be notable, the article should only be written if there's enough material for one. So notability is a requirement if an article is to be written, but it isn't the only one. Notability is never optional, and for this article, at least, it isn't met. So far, there isn't any Keep in the AfD that convincingly says the song is notable. Ultimately, the count for and against isn't what guides the person closing an AfD, it's the cogency of the arguments behind each position. I should also point out that last year's revision to WP:NSONG explicitly points out that charting may be evidence of notability, but only if certain other criteria are met first, something Choose Your Battles does not do. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * – My apologies if I misunderstood it. It seems then like half of Wikipedia (including thousands of GA's) will need to be deleted, so that only singles and promotional singles are left. What will happen with the massive overflow to their parent articles? Since all the information from these are in depth and cover more than the album does?-- Gia co bbe  talk 23:39, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The info from those articles would likely be condensed (probably majorly) and included in album article. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 00:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * in case the AfD decides to delete the article, could you just merge it to the album page? At least let me try to gather some information from the pages to put in the Composition section of Prism. prism   △  18:30, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * , go gather as much composition info as needed now in case it gets deleted (save it in a Word document or something if needed) since you may as well add to the album article now. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Outta Time
Hey, would you review my GAN for "Outta Time"? prism  △  21:45, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yea sure! I've just got to do a couple little things before hand with some articles I'm working on. -- Gia co bbe  talk 17:40, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit Dispute
Hey, I was wondering if you would care to comment on this me and Andrzejbanas are disputing rather this album should be considered pop or art pop on the source that was given. I would apperciate it if you'd comment.--76.107.252.227 (talk) 18:12, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Hummingbird Heartbeat for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hummingbird Heartbeat is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Hummingbird Heartbeat (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Nsk92 (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

GAN
Could you add me as a co-nom for Choose Your Battles? I think it would be fair as I worked really hard on it. :) Prism   △  22:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course!!-- Gia co bbe  talk 22:50, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Choose Your Battles
The article Choose Your Battles you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Choose Your Battles for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 16:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

E.T. for GA
I have now nominated it, should pass now :3 XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * is reviewing the article. I have faith in this admin, who also GA'd "Roar" and Prism. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Am I becoming that predictable? ;) So far, there's only been a miniscule change in two sections. --  Zanimum (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If you are predictable, then it certainly isn't in a negative sense :P! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Credits question
Giacobbe, I've noticed on multiple song articles you rearranging the orders of writers/producers involved to the order booklets list them. I can't help but wonder: what exactly is significant about the order in which such people are listed? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 18:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The order in which writers/producers are listed represent their contribution. Katy Perry for example is listed as lead co-writer for all her songs because she herself did the majority of the writing, followed by the the rest of the co-writers depending on how much they contributed. Same thing goes for producers. For example with Lady Gaga on Artpop, Paul "DJ White Shadow" Blair was the lead producer on nearly every song (meaning he produced the majority of the song), then Gaga as the second (meaning she was still a co-producer, but did less work). It's a confusing example but does that make sense?  Gia co bbe  talk 20:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I follow what you are saying. Thanks for answering! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for lurking, but while you're correct in most of your comment, Katy is almost never the writer who does most of the job per se; the booklets however always list her first. Wikipedia should actually use ASCAP as a reference because there the performers are also in the accurate order. Prism   △  21:17, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * There has certainly been controversy surrounding the placement of writers in booklets, such as with Beyonce and Britney Spears for examples, but ASCAP has also proven to have its flaws (It's credits for "Part of Me" don't even show Perry as a co-writer), generally the most reliable source (even if not always right) is the album booklet.  Gia co bbe  talk 21:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Article stability
Giacobbe I know you mean well by restoring "hip hop" on E.T. but keep in mind that the back-and-forth additions and removals of it will make the article unstable if they keep up. If this is to pass GA, the article needs to remain stable. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't need to worry, the user who reverted it is a great editor and it was in good faith as he couldn't find the info in the source, but I explained and left a message on his talk page so I don't think there will be any more problems :).  Gia co bbe  talk 19:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've now noticed, and am sure the other user was doing so in good faith as well :). Let's get this thing promoted :D! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 19:27, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * – Any new updates on the review?  Gia co bbe  talk 19:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've been keeping a close watch, and so far not yet. Keep in mind that is also busy reviewing many other articles for GA. On another note, I've been working on Katy's main article for a while trying to get it back up to GA. I'm planning to co-nominate it with, who also deserves much of the credit for improving the article. The two of us are also hoping to get this to FA later on, and have it be the "Today's featured article" on October 25th for her 30th birthday. How does that sound? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 20:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * – Great work man!! Keep it up :)!  Gia co bbe  talk 20:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much :D! Also, more input has been given for E.T. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi all! May I suggest that you put Katy Perry up for peer review, even before GA? The two processes are complimentary, and they can be done in any order, even at the same time. The peer review process is especially good to have before (but not necessary) before FAC. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:34, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * gave it a peer review this past January. I'm now just adding bits before GAN. Another peer review shall take place after GAN before nominating for FA. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

E.T. GAN
After it previously failed twice, the article has now passed for GA! Zanimum also appreciates our efforts along the way :). XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 01:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It was great working with you :)!  Gia co bbe  talk 01:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * *High fives* same to you :D! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 02:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Peer review
Hey Giacobbe, could you please leave some comments on my peer review for "Trouble (Natalia Kills album)" please? I would really appreciate it! :)  prism  △ 15:33, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tuscan Leather
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Your GA nomination of Tuscan Leather
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