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Verner's Law
I am not really an expert on Verner's law but I believe that the general "best guess" reconstruction is that the phonemes were fricatives at the same PoA as the stops they alternated with, at least in proto-Germanic. This is probably because they have switched back to stops in some languages (e.g. German has /b/ for all Proto-Germanic /b~β/) and most scholars feel that a change of b -> β -> b is more likely than a change of b -> v -> b. But again, I am not an expert; my main reason for paying attention to this page is that I copied over some content from the German version last year and have been watchlisting it ever since. I don't even agree with some of the changes that have been made to the article since then but I am not going to revert them so long as other editors who know more than I do are still around. Soap Talk/Contributions 00:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Neither am I, but all other references to Verner's Law state it to be an exceptionset for Grimm's Law in which a voiced fricative appears instead of/comes from the voiceless one expected by Grimm's Law. This usually happened after unaccented syllables. This means that they were not allophones of voiced plosives. Technically, this is a change of *p,*t,*k,*kʷ>*f,*þ,*x,*xʷ/ʍ>*v,*ð,*ɣ,*ɣʷ/w.--Ƿynnþorneð (talk) 02:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)