User talk:Σοφία Κουτσουβέλη

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Welcome to Wikipedia from the Wikiproject Medicine!


Welcome to Wikipedia from Wikiproject Medicine (also known as WPMED). We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of content about health here on Wikipedia, as part of the larger mission of Wikipedia to provide the public with articles that present accepted knowledge, created and maintained by a community of editors.

One of our members has noticed that you are interested in editing medical articles; it's great to have a new interested editor on board!

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Feel free to drop a note below if you have any questions or problems. I wish you all the best here in Wikipedia!

Jytdog (talk) 16:54, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you for the Wikiproject Medicine, it is too much information for me right now but I will review what you wrote. I think I might have done something wrong? I'm sorry if I did a mistake and I promise I won't be editing if I shouldn't. If there is something I need to do to correct something I did please advise. Thank you and sorry! Σοφία Κουτσουβέλη (talk) 18:17, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

References and encouragement
Hi Σοφία. I think you did a tremendous job on misophonia, and I'd really like to thank you for your effort. However, "Wikipedia" has its own ideas on what kind of information goes into articles. The rules are very limiting, and one can discuss whether they are useful, but rules are rules. As others have recommended, read WP:MEDRS to see the rules as they stand today.

Huge amounts of data are lost or never entered, because efforts like yours are discarded. Personally, I stopped updating Wikipedia almost completely after seeing the amount of information that is deleted each day with the excuse that it did not follow the rule book.

I hope you have more time than me, and that you are not as easily discouraged, as I am, but that you try to find "acceptable" sources for exactly the same information you already entered once. It deserves to go into the article. All the best Mlewan (talk) 19:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The community put these policies and guidelines in place over the past fifteen or so years, and did so for reasons that make deep sense. One of the foundational principles is that everything here starts with reliable sources.  That is an essential principle.  Things don't begin with what me or you or anybody thinks.   The misophonia article is closely watched and includes content based on the most recent MEDRS sources.  There is not a lot more that can be added at this time, due to lack of acceptable sources. Jytdog (talk) 20:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
Dr.  K.  19:57, 7 February 2017 (UTC)