User talk:Σ/Archive/2011/November

A pie for you!

 * Glitchy WikiLove....a jack-o-lantern and two pies later...  HurricaneFan 25  14:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit of Template:RFPP
Hey there, your edit of template:RFPP template seemed to stop it completing with the length of protection, so I've undone it. Not quite sure what you were aiming for exactly, but it didn't quite work. Ged UK  13:10, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Your sig
Good morning! Please check your sig syntax. It appears to  be creating  the dreaded grey  box (paragraph  indent). Cheers, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

→ Σ  τ  c. 04:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC) Random test signature.


 * Nothing's wrong with the signature; it's the way Twinkle subst's uw-hasty. I've made a note at WT:TW. → Σ  τ  c . 04:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, that might even be my  fault because I  think I  originally  rewrote that  template to  be less bitey. I'm not  an expert with  template syntax -  if you  know how to  fix it, please  just  go  ahead and do  it. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - a single newline caused it. → Σ  τ  c . 05:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

New templates in your testing facility
Those deleted maths function templates you wanted to hold onto in case they be deleted are now in your testing facility. I've added a couple more as well. J IM ptalk·cont 06:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It is greatly appreciated. → Σ  τ  c . 06:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Very long tag in South America Life Quality Rankings
Hi, and thanks for your help.

As per recommended South America Life Quality Rankings article was splitted in 2 parts to easier is reading and to diminish its size to almost the half of the original.

Please check the changes in order to decide if the very long tag still be necesary.

Southamerica2010 (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Have you found the time to check this article and eliminate the "very long" tag. Thanks in advance.

Southamerica2010 (talk) 16:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


 * 150.000 bytes is still too long to comfortably read the article, but I'm not willing to risk a browser-crash by viewing the article (my computer is from 2002). I suggest more splits. → Σ  τ  c . 23:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.

How many bytes is the "exact" limit to reach, to avoid the "very long" tag? Or is it just some personal preference?

For instance, "Brazil" article (part of South America) has more than 140,000 and "Argentina" more than 130,000.

And as a lawyer, you mentioned 150,00 bytes as "still too long", well, Italy has more than 152,000, Mexico has more than 158,000, USA has more than 174,000, Russia has more than 177,000 and France has more than 225,000, but none of these articles have some "very long" tag on them. Is it a special higher limit for certain countries or regions and a lower one for some others, some sort of discrimination in Wikipedia standards?

Thanks in advance for your offcial answer before asking admin.

Southamerica2010 (talk) 14:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * WP:SIZERULE. → Σ  τ  c . 23:27, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling
Hi. Thank you for patrolling  new pages. The language of the article Brilyantes is Filipino, and the content is about a non  notable group, and possibly  a hoax. Happy patrolling!. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:11, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling
Hi. Thank you for patrolling  new pages. The language of the article 第一个手机病毒 is Chinese, and a translation is available at Talk:第一个手机病毒. Happy patrolling!Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:30, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Whack!
Because I feel like it --Sp33dyphil © • © 07:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Dusty the klepto kitty article
So was the issue with the Dusty the Klepto Kitty that he's a cat or that I didn't include a section specifically entitled "Cultural Relevance"? I tend to believe that things become relevant in and of themselves when someone decides to write about them, but I also understand that you guys don't want everyone to include an article about their pets. The lack of that specific phrase being a deletion criteria seems a bit arbitrary, but it's your house so I'll follow your rules.

Anywho, I've added the section specifically entitled "Cultural Relevance". I actually hit the "Submit" instead of "Preview" by accident so I submitted an incomplete article, which is probably why you thought it had no substance (it didn't...yet). I've since edited it.

Have a good night, I'm off to bed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carschmn (talk • contribs) 03:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Carschmn (talk) 03:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Re:"Redirect to: Pagename" & Odia Wikipedia
Thank you very much for your help :) aηsuмaη   ༽Ϟ  09:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Response
Hey Σ ,thanks for your message and indeed i do know a fair bit; such as the Cossacks and the battle of tannenberg etc, On the redirect what exactly are you making- is it an improvement to the Soviet Union article which you will move in due course? User:Goldblooded (Talk/Discuss)(Complain) 15:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Good pun :) Yeah ill help you out over the weekend, when i can dedicate more time. Also feel free to let me know if you have any other history/political articles that you need help with. User:Goldblooded (Talk/Discuss)(Complain) 23:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh and could you led me a hand with my navigation im having a bit of a bother trying to to link the archives page and when you click on it, it subsequently says error. User:Goldblooded (Talk/Discuss)(Complain) 11:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, although the navigation panel itself looks a bit odd... its too small and it doesnt look right in comparison, is there anyway to expand it? 07:25, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Question
I'm not really experienced with the "back stage" parts of Wikipedia, so when you referred to Steve's "NAC list", I didn't know what that was. I've been searching for nearly 20 seconds and still can't figure it out. Could you clue me in? HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Energy Plus
I stubified the article, and removed the speedy deletion tag. If you still think it's spam, send it to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 01:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I also added some links and wikified it a bit. Bearian (talk) 01:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Page number
Got your message, sorry about the pages ill try and find them its just that they were from reference books and i didnt have much time to take note. User:Goldblooded (Talk/Discuss)(Complain) 22:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kollam Beach
Hello Σ. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Kollam Beach, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 11:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Scott reverted right before I tagged. → Σ  τ  c . 20:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
Hello Σ. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know however, regarding Sk sungai balai, that tagging articles for speedy deletion moments after creation as lacking context (CSD A1), content (CSD A3) and articles created through the Article Wizard, is too fast. It's best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), pure vandalism (G3), and copyright violations (G12) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks.  Puffin  Let's talk! 21:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * FWIW Puffin, having reviewed the deleted material, If  I  had been on  patrol, I  might  have even deleted it  summarily  without  even tagging  it.  WP:DTTR. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:52, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi
71.42.216.123 (talk) 06:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wassup? 71.42.216.123 (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, cool. 71.42.216.123 (talk) 05:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi there
How are you? Just stopping to see how you're doing. Eta-theta 22:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Greek clothing
While this article was no great shakes, did you mean to remove the only information it contained in this edit? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The article's title shouldn't duplicate the articles about togas or chitons. Attempting to list all the clothing of Greece would make it an indiscriminate mass of information. → Σ  τ  c . 04:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Blocking policy
I appreciate you  kind offer to  mentor - and I'm genuinely sure that  with  the experience you  now have, you  would be perfectly able to  mentor any  editor who understands what  Wikipdia is and isn't.  See my  talk  page.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I do acknowledge that I doubt he will become a content editor, and plan to guide him in anti-vandalism. Wikipedia is always in need of vandalism fighters ever since The Thing retired... for instance, I'm sure The Thing wouldn't have let this gross BLP violation escape his 'q' key, but I digress...
 * If I cannot convert him into a vandal-fighter (although HG is pretty addicting, which is what I'm counting on), I'm not sure he will stay unblocked for a reasonable amount of time. → Σ  τ  c . 07:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a maturity issue, and he just  cannot  accept that  Wikipedia is not  FaceBook. He'll  grow out  of it, but  not for a while, and the last  thing  we want  him  to  get  his hands on  is Huggle. If he's unblocked it  will  turn into  a saga like this, and this. If  you  want  to  be a mentor, there are plenty  of youngsters who  are keen, willing  to  learn, don't  abuse the core philosophies, but  just  get things wrong. Talk to Worm  about  it. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW: On a different  note, feel  free to  raid my  User:Kudpung/Dashboard. I do  most  of my  editing  manually  (except for Twinkle and some stuff I  have in  CopyPastePro), and you  might  just  find some useful  stuff in  there. I  keep  the page open alongside my  work. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do, and thanks. → Σ  τ  c . 02:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sigma. Thanks for coming to me regarding this situation - I've got a fair amount of experience with this sort of user specifically. I have to warn you that you will be in for the long haul here, chances are you will have to repeat the same thing many times over in different ways and you will need to be keeping a close eye on his work. On the other hand I do agree that it's possible that mentorship will be effective and I was wondering what sort of methods you were thinking of adopting? If you'd like any advice methods you were planning to use or even if you'd like me to be a backup mentor, let me know. Finally, if you're sure about this and are willing to take the consequences I'm willing to unblock with a few provisos (mostly around where he's working) and a couple of recommendations (about how he's working). WormTT  · &#32;(talk) 11:16, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just spotted this. Can I suggest that you consider using any from User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Lessons - especially copyright which I've found that users find complicated and have re-written and perhaps dispute resolution. I think that a course would be helpful in this situation and am glad to see you're going down that route.  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 11:21, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I most certainly cannot do this alone. Your help is appreciated, and I have lately been pondering whether to do this or not, my answer being yes. → Σ  τ  c . 00:53, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I will  not  support unblocking  until he addressed the reasons  for his block and many declined unblock  requests, and his latest  bursts of uncivilty  and refactoring of  my  comments to  look  like incivility by  me  are further breaches of policy. I  would support mentorship  on  the clear understanding  that  this is carried out  only  on  pages he legally has access to  while blocked, and if he can clearly  demonstrate that  he can converse in an adult manner free of invectives. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, I hadn't thought of that. Mentoring him on his talk page makes sense, or maybe I could transclude it to some locations to centralise discussion.
 * But anyway, I think it's all WP:ROPE for him now. Unblocking won't do any harm, as we can reblock if the need ever arises. → Σ  τ  c . 07:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Better?
Is this better? User:Magister Scienta  Magister Scienta talk  (16 November 2011) 

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Dream Season Football League
Hello Σ. I am just letting you know that I deleted Dream Season Football League, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 04:07, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Values based ethics
It seems we got to the article Values based ethics at the same time for deletion! Sorry if this causes any problems. Yankeesrule3 (talk) 04:12, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It shouldn't; even if you edit-conflicted and removed the speedy, I'm sure it would be SNOW deleted at AfD. → Σ  τ  c . 04:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just wanted to thank you for doing the form for Requests for tool apprenticeship. I had no idea before how to do this and it should help a lot. :-) Dcoetzee 05:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Harvard, country study
How do I harv-cite a PD source if I'm using


 * That template doesn't support harvard directly, so you have to wrap a 'span' around it, ie,


 * ...where "Smith" and "2011" correspond exactly to what you put in the harvard-thing, e.g.


 * I made an example, here, to try it - and it works fine;  Chzz  ►  07:12, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It works perfectly, thanks! → Σ  τ  c . 09:34, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

a Question
How did you get the text to be right-to-left in your userpage? &mdash;ᐅ can't see character? (see my contributions) 02:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * See this discussion. → Σ  τ  c . 02:28, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Patience


You have been recognized by Shearonink (talk) with the Patience & Fortitude LP as an award for your Long-Playing Patience in the Wikipedia IRC-Helpchat channel. Thanks for staying so calm, especially in a recent difficult circumstance.

Feel free to pass some Patience on to other patient experienced Wikipedians by adding  to their talk page with whatever patient message you like.

Awarded to experienced Wikipedians who demonstrate continued patience when dealing with editors especially when in the WIkipedia IRC-Helpchat channel. Created by Shearonink and first awarded to Chzz.
 * Shearonink (talk) 04:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hm, I recall myself panicking, and not much else. Thanks → Σ  τ  c . 05:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:UWTEST update
Hi Σ,

Just giving you a heads-up about the latest update on our template testing. Please peruse when you have a minute. Thanks! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 05:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for incurring the wrath of the puppetmaster. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. I will find you and wear your skin. m.o.p 07:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd rather you didn't do that, actually, because at a glance it implies blocking, and after a look at the block log and back here again, Σ hasn't been blocked. It is unhelpful to use a proper block template because it just makes people think that you have actually been blocked, when you haven't. So don't, please.  Rcsprinter  (articulate)  20:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If I had been blocked, and you had been watching this page, you would've seen the block log with my name as an entry in your watchlist. → Σ  τ  c . 23:59, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's a joke, Rcsprinter, lighten up! :P  HurricaneFan 25  00:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Brandon Harris (programmer) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brandon Harris (programmer) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Brandon Harris (programmer) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)