User talk:Σ/Archive/2015/November

usersearch.py tool does not work for outreachwiki
Hi. Please see the subject. Any idea what it might be? It looks that actually many tools have problems with the wiki. Perhaps you will know where to look for the problem. -- ᛒᚨᛊᛖ ( ᛏᚨᛚᚲ ) 01:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The tool currently supports the "real" wikis. I could add others if requested, I suppose, but they were never a priority considering how little traffic they get. That said I'm doing outreach right now. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 21:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Here's a related discussion on outreachwiki you might want look though: outreach:Wikimedia:Village_pump. -- ᛒᚨᛊᛖ ( ᛏᚨᛚᚲ ) 18:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I hope someone could tell them that my tools now support outreachwiki, eg here. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 00:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool, thank you very much! :) You can enjoy SUL and answer there yourself but I will do :) -- ᛒᚨᛊᛖ ( ᛏᚨᛚᚲ ) 21:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Base for asking Σ about this. Thank you, Σ, for doing this! As noted in the VP post, several tools now function fine. However, the editor interaction analyser seems to output stats from enwiki as default (see example search here). Nevertheless, having three new tools (pages created, user contribs, article revisions) is a huge help! Σ, the Outreach wiki community cannot thank you enough. Sincerely, Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 14:58, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it. As for editor interaction, there is a bit of enwiki-specific code, that I have vague plans to work on someday, currently blocking its use on other wikis. But someday... → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 12:24, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Lowercase sigmabot III not working
I've had archiving set up on my user talk page for years, originally under MiszaBot III. However, Lowercase sigmabot III has stopped archiving my talk page since May. I've had to manually archive the talk page just a few moments ago, and reorder the MiszaBot parameters. But can you take a look to see why my talk page is being missed? —Farix (t &#124; c) 15:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


 * It's working. If you read the documentation, you would have noticed: Also, the template must be located:
 * 1) before the first ==second level header== on the page
 * 2) on the actual page and not transcluded from a subpage, such as a page header, etc.
 * → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 20:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Unsigned archives
I understand that threads without a datestamp don't get archived, but the bot also seems to miss ones that have been dated by means of the unsigned template. This happens even when the template is substituted, as it is supposed to be. SpinningSpark 06:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


 * This has been extensively discussed in previous discussions that can be found in my talk page archives. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 12:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, I never realised that the (UTC) part of the timestamp was essential. I have put a note about this in the template documentation.  So simply adding "(UTC)" to an otherwise properly formatted timestamp on a thread the bot has missed will cause it to archive on the next pass? SpinningSpark 12:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes. Also mentioned in the talk page archives is the proper way to paste the timestamp. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 14:59, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
Hi, we are thinking of changing the headers and formatting on this page. Please see Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I just wanted to make sure this would not break the archiving bot. Best regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I quickly looked it over. Nothing would "break" the bot, as long as it still contains timestamps under a level 2 header, etc. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 12:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:War in Donbass
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WikiCup 2015: The results
WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is. All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. , a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

Our newcomer award, presented to the best-performing new competitor in the WikiCup, goes to. Everyone should be very proud of the work they accomplished. We will announce our other award winners soon.

A full list of our award winners are:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 330 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 160 did you knows in the final round (310 in all rounds).
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for 26 featured articles in all rounds.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize and the FL prize for 11 featured lists.
 * wins the most prizes: a final 8 prize, the GA prize for 41 good articles, and the topic prize for a 13-article good topic and an 8-article featured topic, both in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for the most news articles in round 3.

We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2016 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

, and  18:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Erhard
Lower case sigma bot redirects to here.

The bot recently archived extensive discussions on the Werner Erhard talk page. These discussions are ongoing, often contentious, and unresolved. Most of them date from earlier this year. It would help to restore them until they are resolved. Sensei48 (talk) 02:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You can remove them from the archive by yourself. Use DNAU to prevent the threads from being archived until a certain date passes. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 05:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Caliphate
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Editor interaction analyzer
Hi Σ, at the risk of telling you something you probably already know, (and I apologize in advance,) but when I'm at the Editor Interaction Analyzer and click the "Powered by Wikimedia" button, my browser returns the warning:

"Your connection is not private Attackers might be trying to steal your information from wmflabs.org (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID This server could not prove that it is wmflabs.org; its security certificate is from wikitech.wikimedia.org. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection."

Also, the home button leading here returns a page full of red errors:

404 Not Found

The path '/sigma/sigma' was not found.

Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/sigma/.local/lib/python3.3/site-packages/cherrypy/_cprequest.py", line 670, in respond response.body = self.handler File "/home/sigma/.local/lib/python3.3/site-packages/cherrypy/lib/encoding.py", line 217, in __call__ self.body = self.oldhandler(*args, **kwargs) File "/home/sigma/.local/lib/python3.3/site-packages/cherrypy/_cperror.py", line 411, in __call__ raise self cherrypy._cperror.NotFound: (404, "The path '/sigma/sigma' was not found.")

Lastly, are you aware of a FAQ that I could dive into that would explain why various tools are down so often? This has to be frustrating to you and everybody else who maintains tools. Anyhow, thanks for the hard work. Sorry to report problems. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Interesting that those two things have been happening for so long and yet only just been reported to me. I think I've fixed them.
 * In the past, unexpected changes in the infrastructure of Labs have caused my tools to go down for extended periods of time. But I cannot speak for any tools other than my own. If I knew of such a FAQ, I'd let you know.
 * You're not bothering me with all this; my talk page doesn't get as much traffic as it should, anyway. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 16:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The Powered by Wikimedia link now works, but I'm still seeing the red traceback errors here. Since you're aware of it, I won't bring it up again. :) Thanks Σ! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:47, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, typo fix. Thanks again. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 20:10, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

The tool is not working at all now. This is holding up an important investigatino. Perhaps you could have a look at it as soon as you have a moment and let me know when it is running again. Thanks, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:39, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Talkstalker says... Kudpung the tool seems to be working, for me at least. I assume we are both talking about https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py -- can you see if this link functions for you?    It compares Kudpung + Σ + Cyphoidbomb, and seems to be giving reasonable answers.  Are you getting an error message, or a blank page, or what exact problem are you seeing? 75.108.94.227 (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Archiving bug
This edit removed 12kB of content from a Talk page, but never appeared to put it on the relevant archive page. Aside from the immediate bug, perhaps a safer/more reliable method of operation would be to add the archive content to Talk:…/Archive_N, and then only complete removal from Talk:… if it worked successfully. —Sladen (talk) 18:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Created articles tool
May you please add a CSV export function to your sigma/created.py? I would like to use it e.g. together with User:Dsimic/Traffic stats calculation.--Kopiersperre (talk) 09:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * No. Extracting whatever data you'd like from the page source is trivial. Though I wouldn't mind doing a one-off request for you, provided it fits my life plan. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 04:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I have no technical background. If it's so trivial may you please give me an example how to extract data from the HTML output?--Kopiersperre (talk) 11:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Problem with archive bot
Hello. Usually the bot removes edits from one page then posts them to the archive. In this case there seems to be no matching archiving after the bot removed content.
 * diff with removal

Here is the activity log for that time.
 * search here for "billyboy"

Why did this not archive?  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  16:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * , see also, four topics above. —Sladen (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The abuse filter was catching its edits. I'll have to look into this. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 05:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * A way to address this is to try to move threads to the archive before removing them from the talk page. I will investigate the possibility of doing this, and whether there are any drawbacks. → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 04:00, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Trans-Pacific Partnership
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