User talk:Вени Марковски/2016-2020

Questions on COI
Since this question apparently has not been asked: do you currently have a financial or legal relationship with the Bulgarian government, or any of its affiliated entities (embassies, permanent missions), with regards to any public relations work, including SEO, media and any other PR? Can you please disclose any other relationships you have with Irina Bokova, or UNESCO, or the UN, as it may pertain to your frequent edits on her Wikipedia page? Hundnase (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you asking me because you think I have this kind of conflict of interest? Namely, "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial or other relationships. Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest. (The word interest refers here to something in which a person has a stake or from which they stand to benefit.)" I guess this is why you are asking me, but want to make sure, before I respond. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your quick response, also for your email – will take me a day or two to respond. Continued courtesy also appreciated. Yes, I'm specifically asking with regards to that section, on "financial or other relationships". You advertise that you do PR work, on your website "Launched, owns and manages Global Solutions and Consulting, LLC, which advises companies from the U.S.A. and the European Union, non-profits, governmental institutions, and individuals on improving their marketing and sales, government and international organizations relations, and overall performance." -- nothing wrong with that, but it's reasonable to ask how this relates to your current work at Wikipedia. Hundnase (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:48, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I hope you understand that your question is loaded. It is exactly that type of question that is raised in the "information" from one "news outlet" (quotes are on purpose), which are the reason that I have moved couple of sentences from the main article about Mrs. Bokova to the talk page. You take a sentence from my personal website, or from my Facebook page, you make an assumption, and then you ask a question, which is loaded. I am sure you know that there's no response to a loaded question. So, unless you have some evidence to bring, I am sure you would understand why you cannot get an answer to such a question (it is also explained in the article about loaded question). And since you can find the answer to your question in the same sources you quoted above, including in the quote from my personal web site, that's another reason why one could reach to the conclusion that the question is loaded.
 * But to add to my comment (see above): "Are you asking me because you think I have this kind of conflict of interest? Namely, Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial or other relationships. Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest. (The word interest refers here to something in which a person has a stake or from which they stand to benefit.)"... It is quite obvious that I don't have a COI. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 10:53, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Veni, it is explicitly not a loaded question. It is entirely reasonable to ask whether you have a COI. (If you have a better way of phrasing this question for my future reference, do let me know.) You are also side-stepping the question, in your answer. In the New York Times, you previously were cited as an advisor to the President of Bulgaria (2003, here), and also more recently, in 2009 in another capacity. Specifically there, you were described as "Veni Markovski, a Washington-based adviser to Bulgaria’s Internet security chief". (See here.) On either NYT article, there is no record of you disputing that characterization.


 * Do you continue to work in any such capacity? Is the Bulgarian state, or any other entity affiliated with Ms Bokova's candidacy, your client, in any way, over the last two years? If so, and it is stated policy of Bulgaria to nominate Irina Bokova, you clearly have a COI when editing aspects related to her candidacy. If you have no such conflict, you can state so freely, without hedging or qualifying your response. Given the visibility of this issue, and the concern by several editors that important information on a major public figure is being suppressed, it would be great if you could go formally on the record with your answer. If you prefer not to do that (which is understandable) maybe you should indeed stop editing this page, which anyway may be sensible, by many standards. Hundnase (talk) 16:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * The NYT made an error in 2003 (13 years ago, by the way). I was never adviser to the President. I was chair of his President's IT advisory committee, which was a non-paid body, and where we had people like Vint Cerf, Esther Dyson, George Sadowsky, Dimitar Ganchev, and other serving. None of us was an adviser - and the evidence is on the Bulgarian President's archived site. Actually, the NYT reported it correctly in this article, which is published the same day, as the one you quoted. I am surprised that you dig one of the quoted articles, but not the other - it doesn't require a lot to find them both, and realize that one of them made an error. Of course, why would you accept that the error is the one you quoted, and not the other one - well, check additional sources! As for the quote from 2009, that's correct - back then I was advising the Bulgarian cybercoordinator, but a) it is 2016 now, and I am not sure why would you think that this is still the case, especially that you also have b) this article from the same newspaper, NYT, from 2010, which states that at that time I had a different position. And the question is loaded, because you are assuming I am working for the government now, based on a quote in the NYT from 2003 or 2009, while avoiding the rest of the publicly accessible evidence. Seriously? If I was working for the Bulgarian government, I would have no reason to try to hide it - especially given how public my work is. And I say it is a loaded question, because the issue with the COI was discussed on Bokova's discussion page some months ago. No, I don't have such. I am not part of the team, announced by the Bulgarian Foreign ministry, that works on Mrs. Bokova's candidacy. In any case, it is not my task to provide evidence to loaded questions; it's up to the accuser to provide evidence in the other direction. Evidence would be a contract between me and the government, for example, and not a quote from 2003 or 2009 -- and by the way, the article about Veni Markovski clearly states what I did 2006-2009. Did you actually check it? If you had doubts, you could have raised them there. Hope that I have answered your (loaded?) questions? Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 16:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * well, it's getting more and more interesting. You are again side-stepping the question, by saying you are "not part of the team, announced by the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry". This still leaves plenty of options for COI. As for checking additional sources, ok, so what do they show? They actually seem to increase doubts that any sensible person would have on how you represent yourself. You list, on your ICANN professional page (with updates after 2014), the following title: "Office of the National Cybersecurity Coordinator, Senior Advisor - Government Administration, Advising the Bulgarian National Cybersecurity Coordinator (cybersecurity tzar), 2009-04-01 - Present", here. So is that an error? If it is inaccurate, why do you keep it there? This is your bio, on the page of the organization you work for. The entry is recent. Yet up above, you deny that you do this work right now. What is really going on here? Either you have a COI, or you misrepresent yourself in other ways, or (most likely) it's just a mistake or sloppiness. At this point, would it not be better you focus your editing on other entries? Hundnase (talk) 10:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks for picking up the old information is not corrected there. If you find other places, please, write here or email me, so I can ask to be corrected. This is really helpful. Of course, your other statement are not correct, as you only put two options (either - or), but not the third option, the natural one, which would be "or the information about your advisory role has not been updated as per your Wikipedia page". But it is good you have put some effort in finding this information, as it is helpful for me.  As for your claim, I stated long time ago, quoting the Wikipedia page for COI that I don't have such. Since this is a loaded question on your side, instead of asking me to provide evidence I don't have COI, it is proper to show any evidence proving the opposite. You pointed to a bio page, which will be fixed to reflect the correct dates (which, btw, exist elsewhere). Please, if you have something more substantive, let me know. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Again - thank you for finding out about the old information. Very helpful, and really appreciate your continuous interest!
 * On your loaded question, I can only state something, which I have already said: I don't have COI, as it is well described in the page Conflict of interest.
 * If you have any evidence that show differently, please, provide it. Above there is nothing that shows I am working for the Bulgarian government, and since you cannot show such evidence, I would consider the question as closed. I am sorry that you seem to be not happy with the fact that I don't have COI. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 14:44, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Support for Bokova Candidacy - For the Record
Note also, for the record, the following passage on Facebook, showing a strong commitment and support for Bokova on your Facebook page. (Google Translation:)


 * Nice article in the "New York Times", and not one, but two nurses
 * The official application of Bulgaria for the post of UN secretary general's Irina Bokova, who is chief of UNESCO. It's really great for our country, it is also important to change thinking in terms of women worldwide. Unfortunately, in our country there are still people who are willing to work against the candidacy of Ms. Bokova. There are people who spread idiotic and non- supported with nothing rumors about her, her father, her relatives under her brother - Philip Bokov. There are people who are more willing to believe malicious rumors on its address, but not its deeds as head of UNESCO. And, of course, there are people who in no way willing to accept facts that contradict their opinion on the address of a successful Bulgarian.


 * I do not know why we have not yet managed to eradicate this incomprehensible aspiration nashenetsat for which Constantine Irechek wrote in 1881. "For me, the worst in Bulgaria, is a great pleasure that people here have to prosecute each other and spoil one to another job." I can not explain malice, envy, but it seems that a foreigner as Irechek it has grasped best: nashenetsat experiencing pleasure when it seeks to mar the work of the other. This is not a unique phenomenon, which occurs only in Bulgaria, but that is also found in other places, it makes it more bearable country.

Your commitment and support is understandable, and she may indeed be a wonderful candidate, and the motivations are well explained and reasonable. But given your sentiments, I do not think you should edit her Wikipedia page -- especially not continue to promote Bokova, and suppress any information that may be less flattering. Hundnase (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't trust the Google Translate so much, and I wouldn't say that my personal views, as a Bulgarian, have influenced in anyway what I have written on any of the Wikipedia pages that I have edited. And they are much more than just the one of Mrs. Bokova. If you claim I have CoI, you need to prove it, based on actual edits, and also based on the description in Wikipedia itself: "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial or other relationships. Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest. (The word interest refers here to something in which a person has a stake or from which they stand to benefit.)"
 * Your note is of the kind that loaded question describes well, I am sure you know it. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, I did not revert you, I just changed the list, so that candidates are listed alphabetically by the country they are from. That is how members of UN sit in the General Assembly, and that listing is often used within UN. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 23:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks - makes sense. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 02:41, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sarah Elizabeth Foster


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 * Thanks! I know that, but for some reason the browser / computer I was using, would not accept the proper syntax; using the thumbnail was the only solution. On my screen it looked oversized, and wasn't sure if it was me only. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 14:16, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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Pogrebin UNDUE content
If you have sources for that content you reinstated to the article, please add them. Otherwise, it is UNDUE and your readdition of unsourced text, without so much as a tag is not helpful. I have found nothing to support the claim that she was nominated for an Emmy. What evidence do you have to reinsert that? If none, please undo your reinsertion.  SPECIFICO talk 19:24, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Before you remove something, you could ask for a source. That's the normal way. And I am adding sources, as we speak here. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 19:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No, the ONUS is on you to present Reliable Source references for article content. By the time it's been challenged, it does not reflect well on you to reinstate without addressing the problem. Some of sources you have added are Primary Sources and do not resolve the need. And it would still be necessary to provide sources for the other content, including what you reinserted.  Thanks for your reply.  SPECIFICO talk 19:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, I started editing today; after seeing that someone asked for sources five (5) years ago. Since you've waited for so long, perhaps you could wait for five more days;-) Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 19:50, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read the Policies and Guidelines about sourcing, notability, and biographies. Also, you can request assistance or feedback at the Help Desk or on any Admin's page. The article needs secondary sources to establish what is noteworthy in her life and career and to verify the content about awards and successes. Thanks for your note.  SPECIFICO talk 19:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion(s). Very helpful.Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You continue to add WP:PRIMARY sources, which do not validate the article text.  SPECIFICO talk 20:37, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Be patient, please. No need to repeat what you've already said. Thanks for your note.Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 20:40, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No. Actually you need to slow down until you are confident you understand policies. No rush on an article like this one.  SPECIFICO talk 23:46, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

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Bulgaria in WW2
You appear to be removing well-sourced factual information for no good reason. Please desist, or else find suitable reliable sources that support the claims made in your edits. Your edits are being disruptive to Wikipedia. Please consult the sources cited before removing important information; you might learn a lot. GPinkerton (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. While I don't agree with you opinion, I'd kindly ask you if you have concrete remarks, please, use the talk page of the article in question. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I haven't expressed an opinion for you to disagree with. I'm stating fact: disruptive edits removing sourced material is disruptive to Wikipedia. If you disagree with the facts presented in this or any other article, find reliable sources that support your claims. Do not just remove important encyclopaedic content on your own whim. GPinkerton (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

As I said, your opinion is important, and I’m thankful you’re sharing it with me. Please, use the talk page of the article in question to share your opinion there. No need to share it (yet again) here; I’m editing this article as we speak, and will continue doing so. If you don’t agree with some of the facts, use the talk page. And, please, when explaining edits, try to avoid ad hominem attacks. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)


 * So add to the article, don't just remove or euphemize what is already there and well sourced. Add more detail on the actual back-and-forth between the gov't, church, opposition, &c. in April-May 1943, which is anyway what the article is supposed to be about. The article does not exist to say something nice about Bulgaria, it's there to detail a part of the Holocaust. Good, well-detailed sources are Chary and Crowe, there cited. The historical background is good as it is, though there are a number of partisan edits being made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GPinkerton (talk • contribs) 17:04, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * In many historical topics, scholarship is divided, so several scholarly positions should be relied upon. To weight different views and structure an article so as to avoid original research and synthesis the common views of scholars should be consulted. Some people masquerading as scholars actually present fringe views outside of the accepted practice, and these should not be used. Jingiby (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Again, thankful for advice by both of you, and *again* kindly ask to move this to the talk page, where it belongs. Ms or Mr. GPinkerton, the article is about WW II, as you’ve stated in the %topic. If you’re confusing it with another article, that’s one more argument why this conversation should be taking place at the adequate talk page. Veni Markovski &#124; Вени Марковски (talk) 17:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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