User talk:Михаил Дмитриев

Proposed deletion of Gorizont (newspaper)


The article Gorizont (newspaper) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * no evidence of notability

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Objection to deletion proposed by RHaworth
Dear Sir, thank you for your attention. We have edited article in accordance to your suggestions.

Nevertheless, we disagree with the proposed deletion for a following reasons:

This is the article about ethnic (Russian) newspaper that is very well known in Colorado among Russian community and has a significant positive impact on a large (over 70,000 members) ethnic community. “Gorizont” newspaper was founded in 1995 not primarely as a business but more as the media tool to support cultural and business development of the fast growing Russian community of Colorado. Back in mid 90s for the most of Russian community members it was almost the only source of news from Russia as well as from America. A significant number of community members were not able to obtain American news until it is translated into Russian and published in “Gorizont”. Russian newspaper was really on damand

As the first and the only Russian newspaper at those times, “Gorizont” was very useful in connecting community members, supporting new businesses, acting as a community advocate, adviser and the media for community forum. In 90s use of Internet was very limited yet and no forums or discussion lists were available. At that time this function was solely provided by "Gorizont" as a local community newspaper represented by a team of reporters and experts associated with this publication.

“Gorizont” newspaper did not loose leading positions even after satellite TV and Internet were widely introduced to Russian community. By this time publication has already created the reputation and popularity. For many years it remained the only source of information about Russians living in Colorado, about their business and carrier achievements, about artists and actors, teachers and scientists who made Russian community of Colorado to be proud of. “Gorizont” has published over 70 chapters on Russian Veterans of Second World War who moved from USSR to US and still reside in Colorado. The newspaper has always supported new schools, cultural and social clubs, associations and other positive initiatives aimed to make life of Russian immigrants decent and successful.

For years “Gorizont” newspaper served as a bridge between Russian community and American community. English-specking writers and reporters always contacted Gorizont team first as any questions or interests were raised. It is not surprising to see American papers referring “Gorizont” if the topic of their research is related to Russian community of Colorado or even political events in Russia. “Gorizont” is always a source of opinions and expertise. In Westword, the second largest American newspaper in Colorado, you can see the article starts with: "According to Gorizont (Horizon), a popular Russian-language newspaper published in Colorado, this state's population of ex-pat Russians is now 70,000 strong, with more coming every day. About two-thirds of this group live in the Denver area..." . Or suddenly one can find pages from Gorizont on the web site of Radio 1190 Colorado radio station site "This article is taken from the Denver-based Russian newspaper ‘Gorizont’('Horizon’). Unfortunately its all in Russian, but cool nonetheless". “Gorizont” newspaper was recognized as a voice for Russian community by many official organizations. It could be the Russian Consulate or the American Census 2010 who contact “Gorizont” to address any important issues to its readership.

“Gorizont” newspaper is well known as initiator and organizer of numerous community activities. It was sponsoring and supporting a number of annual festivals, beauty contests, education programs, concerts, art shows and other events.

Even after different Russian publications appeared in Colorado, Gorizont remain the largest publication and the most trustworthy source of information.

Changing the subject from the nature of “Gorizont” and its role in development and evolution of fast growing Russian community of colorado, I would like to call your attention to the fact that Wiki has a number of articles about comparable newspapers: Vakarai, Seattle Chinese Post, Predvestnik, Der Blatt. We cannot estimate from those articles how big is impact of those papers on their communities and but we can say that even publications of smaller size and publications established more recently were found suitable for an article in Wiki. We are sure that “Gorizont” newspaper definitely has deserved such an honor as well.

Finally, we would like to mention that the article Gorizont (newspaper) is a shorter mirror of the main article about Горизонт (газета) in Russian Wikipedia - it is available from Gorizont (newspaper) - Russian link.

--Михаил Дмитриев (talk) 07:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Editing the article
Yes, this article is really badly written. Another editor is cleaning it up, and I will do some rewriting this week also. This is the first time I have seen an article have tons of tags and be actually under-tagged.

There's no need to continue discussing this issue with user:Betacommand who has stated he is not a prose editor. Wikipedia is a volunteer projects and editors select what they will edit. There is no problem with any of the tags on this article other than it needs more tags. I am a prose editor, but primarily a references editor, and another editor is tackling the prose also.--IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by IP69.226.103.13 (talk • contribs)