User talk:Петр Утёс

I didn't close it the symbolism regarding Benedict XVI. I am the last one to comment but an administrator closed it (I am not an administer). >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 18:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

= RETALIATION [1st level] = ---

Pope Benedict XVI
hi, do you think you can perhaps help us reach a consensus at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pope_Benedict_XVI ? I know it's a complicated subject, but any help you can give us would be great! Aunva6 (talk) 03:24, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It was closed. What can I add? >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 18:45, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Jesuitic posture ? DoubleVigie (talk) 22:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You put this on my talk page : "I didn't close it the symbolism regarding Benedict XVI. I am the last one to comment but an administrator closed it (I am not an administer). >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 18:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's better placed on your own (BTW your english is very poor) Einmal ist keinmal. Zweimal ist zu oft. Drei 'mâles' (ou plus). A backroom or a sauna ? http://www.towleroad.com/2013/03/sauna.html The Independent reports: The Vatican has bought Europe's biggest gay sauna :A day ahead of the papal conclave, faces at the scandal-struck Vatican were even redder than usual after it emerged that the Holy See had purchased a €23 million (£21 million) share of a Rome apartment block that houses Europe’s biggest gay sauna. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam ? Mon oeil ! Bonjour chez vous. Петр Утёс (talk) 15:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Symbolism of Benedictus Sextus Decimus resignation date announcement
It should be noted that Joseph Ratzinger, ex-conscript in (Adolf) Hitler Youth, announced its resignation as Pope Benedict XVI on february 11th 2013, Benedict of Aniane and Adolf of Osnabrück feast day. Maybe, this shoud be added in hid biography. NummerSechs (talk) 22:18, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:SYNTH Elizium23 (talk) 00:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Close, but there's no conclusion. Not combining sources, just listing two. Just out of curiousity, NummerSechs, why should this be noted? Is there anything beyond it just being a sort of weird coincidence? InedibleHulk (talk) 02:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Please READ WP:SYNTH which says: Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources. Emphasis is mine. Elizium23 (talk) 02:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I get that. But what's the implication? He announced his resignation on February 11, and February 11 was the feast day of saints with loosely-related names, therefore...? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:59, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Since, I do not agree at all with InedibleHulk & Elizium23's comments, I put also this discussion on their talk page. Everything a Pope does, speaks, writes, acts, etc. is think well in advance on a very symbolic basis. Denying that, without arguments better than a lawyer point of view, means a complete ignorance about the essence of Pope's role in catholic world & over other Christian churches. BTW, I'm French, not Anglo-saxon, learned german at school, (J. Retzinger is German) and I do believe that I have quite an authority to write that, since France is recognized Rome's first daughter. NummerSechs (talk) 05:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * we can just say that it happens to be the same day as those feasts and let the readers draw their own conclusions. otherwise it is WP:synth. I do know German quite well, I have taken 3 years of German classes, one year has been college-level. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 06:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that February the 11th, Catholic Church also celebrates Notre Dame de Lourdes a.k.a Our Lady of Lourdes (south-west of France). Another (non related ?) coincidence : François-Bernard Michel who co-presides the Lourdes Medical Bureau, presides also the French National Academy of Medicine for the year 2013. He is also member of the Académie des Beaux-Arts, he presided twice, at Institut de France, chair XIII, created in 1998. NummerSechs (talk) 06:15, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Very good. Before rushing in with this sort of thing, people should know that "superficial similarities spawn spurious statements" and "capricious coincidences cause careless conjectures".   --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  07:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * This is neither (A) logical, (B) notable, or (C) in the sources. It is like putting a prediction by Nostradamus and the Aztec calendar together to get a result. Please KEEP THIS OFF THE ARTICLE. >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 16:40, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

NIL NOVI SUB SOLI ?
Since Joseph Ratzinger was enrolled in Hitler Youth, founded by a dictator Adolf Hitler and new Pope Francis had some weird responsabilities when Argentina was ruled by military dictators, such as Jorge Rafael Videla, Roberto Eduardo Viola, Leopoldo Galtieri, all of them impregnated with nazi ideology. , Maybe all that are mere coincidences, but since the world is again on the brink of a generalized conflict, we have to take them quite seriously. Do you agree ? Since a number of documents are written in French, been from Calgary (Alberta) doesn't help you that much. Maybe you could ask for some help ? BTW, have you read any opus of XIII (belgian graphic novels), ? Bonjour chez vous. Петр Утёс (talk) 17:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.