User talk:פֿינצטערניש

January 2017
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Milo Yiannopoulos. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 23:46, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Certainly recent news has vindicated my edit, but I appreciate your concern for the integrity of Wikipedia. Finsternish (talk) 09:21, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Since this is coming up again in administration enforcement, the living person in question has since been confirmed to be a Nazi, so my edit was simply an attempt to accurately categorize a Nazi as a Nazi, since most people already could deduce that he was a Nazi without such an investigation. Others subsequently reverted it and I did not push the issue, though I absolutely believe it is false balance to even give the slightest bit of credence to the possibility that the individual in question is not a Nazi.
 * A similar thing is true for the categorization of Israel as a theocracy. Israel arrests non-Orthodox rabbis for performing weddings. Israel strictly restricts who is allowed to marry whom, based on a religious restriction against intermarriage. All of this is based on the opinions of the two Chief Rabbis of Israel. Of course it's a theocracy. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2018 (UTC) I somehow neglected to add that Israel also restricts gay people from marriage for religious reasons. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 10:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * But, again, this was a good faith edit, and it was reverted, and I did not push it. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 08:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
Icewhiz (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Given the extremely dogmatic and hard-line pro-Israel way you have replied to my suggestion that a serious violation of a Palestinian poet's human rights be added to an article that most people are prohibited from editing, it gives me no comfort whatsoever as to the partiality or impartiality of such sanctions that you are the one leaving me this message. Finsternish (talk) 11:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * This message merely notifies you of the sanctions regime in place - nothing less, nothing more.Icewhiz (talk) 12:03, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Andy, I thought you were banned from Wikipedia. Why are you still editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrokenTelly (talk • contribs)
 * Spambot? פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

ARBPIA3 General prohibition
In regards to edits to Dareen Tatour, please note that accounts that are not extended confirmed (30 days tenure, 500 edits), are not permitted to edit conflict related pages per this decision.Icewhiz (talk) 18:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And you're totally not abusing the power conferred upon you by that decision at all! Good job! פֿינצטערניש (talk) 19:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am an editor, same as you, with no "power" to abuse. However, I may report breaches of the ARBPIA DS regime to the appropriate forum.Icewhiz (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You have the right to edit the page as per the decision; I apparently don't, so yes, you do. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Given the fact that you went and removed everything that contradicted your POV, re-added a redundancy that served no purpose apart from POV, and edited the article to look even more favorable to Israel by removing all mention of the decision's condemnation from the lead. You are abusing the power you have as an extended confirmed editor, and threatening to report me for editing the article if I don't comply with your attempt to shape the article in a way that is favorable to Israel. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 21:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Considering all of this you're making it very hard for me to assume good faith. I don't think you have Wikipedia in mind; I think you have Israel in mind. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 22:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And the thing is, this is not a place for you to do hasbara, and certainly not a place for you to strong-arm others away from contributing to articles where you're trying to make Israel look good. This is an encyclopedia. Go spread propaganda on a site that is not intended to be a factual encyclopedia, and let people with good intentions be faithful to the facts in peace. Or don't; go report me to the proper forum or whatever. I contribute a lot to Wiktionary, I contribute a lot to the Esperanto Wikipedia, and I'm happy to find something better to do with my time. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 22:15, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Of course it's entirely possible you're being paid for this, because I know not every IDF soldier is physically fit enough to go toe-to-toe with Palestinian babies. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

AE
Please refer to Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement where a report against you has been filed.Icewhiz (talk) 05:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 07:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
To enforce an arbitration decision and for WP:ARBPIA3 violation, see AE thread, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page:. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.  Sandstein  08:41, 5 August 2018 (UTC)  Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
I have read your appeal below and will not be lifting the ban. In your appeal, you are mostly blaming the other user for what you consider their inappropriate conduct. This is inappropriate in an appeal; see, by analogy, WP:NOTTHEM. You do not address your own conduct by which you accuse the other user, multiple times and without evidence, of being a paid agent of the state of Israel and of spreading propaganda for that state. Wikipedians are expected to assume good faith towards one another, and to resolve disagreements about article content by discussing the merits of the content, not by attacking one another personally and casting aspersions against the other and their motives. See, generally, WP:AGF, WP:BATTLEGROUND, WP:ASPERSIONS. Because you do not understand and abide by these basic conduct requirements, I believe that you should not be editing controversial topics for the time being. If you want to maintain your appeal, you will need to ask another user to copy it to the forum you choose to submit your appeal to.  Sandstein  10:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Or better yet, wait until the block expires and then post the appeal yourself, as otherwise you will not be able to contribute to the discussion about the appeal.  Sandstein   10:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I did not expect you to lift the ban; this is why I am appealing your decision to other administrators. If I need to wait to be unblocked for that, fine.
 * You just asserted, without evidence, that I "accuse the other user, multiple times and without evidence, of being a paid agent of the state of Israel." This is an exaggeration. I did not accuse them; I merely suggested the possibility. And I only suggested the possibility once, not multiple times. As for spreading propaganda, I did have evidence, and that is exactly what my appeal was addressing.
 * And your response is laughable in the sense that my appeal directly gives my reasons for believing that the other user is acting in bad faith, and you somehow manage to split this into "you blame the other user" and "you have no reason to believing they're acting in bad faith." So your response is full of obvious cognitive dissonance. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC) It obviously doesn't address my appeal at all; it merely splits it into two things that you are better able to address independently, which together defeat your entire reason for rejecting my appeal. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 10:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Regarding the appeal on the noticeboard: my reason for being banned is directly related to interactions with a specific editor. That's why I gave background. It's absurd to block anyone for editing a page that you could've protected. The arbitration guidelines only allow you to apply such punishments when the alternative is not feasible.
 * I am willing to apologize for assuming bad faith and for personal attacks, but there is no basis for banning me for editing a page. I have over 3000 global contributions, for one, and secondly, it was feasible to protect the page. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:36, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * In fact I am even OK with being sanctioned for personal attacks and bad faith, but there is zero basis in policy for banning me for editing a page when protecting it would have been feasible,, . פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "Informing me of the guidelines" is not an appropriate way to enforce the policy when asking it to be protected is feasible. It also leaves room for prejudice. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The guidelines are clear: "This prohibition is preferably enforced by the use of extended confirmed protection, but where that is not feasible, it may also be enforced by reverts, page protections, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters." Why was it not feasible to use extended confirmed protection? The reason it is preferably enforced this way, I imagine, is to avoid prejudice. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 13:43, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk page access removed
As you are using your talk page to circumvent your topic ban (most recently - ), I have removed your editing access to your talk page for the duration of your block. You can appeal this via UTRS. Fish +Karate 12:50, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello Madam/Sir, Please sorry for calling on your attention to help me resolve on an issue concerning an Article i have created as and was looking for an Arbitary Member to help me resolve it. I'm currently teaching my young daughter how to edit wikipedia articles, unfortunately on the same laptop. I have been charge now for Sockpuppet and with deletion Tags on my article please could you help? (Professorat (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2018 (UTC)).

Result of your arbitration enforcement appeal
This is to inform you that I have closed your arbitration enforcement appeal as declining to lift your topic ban. This has been logged at the arbitration enforcement log. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:46, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Arb appeal enforcement declined
I have declined and closed your appeal and logged it here. --regentspark (comment) 14:19, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. regentspark (comment) 14:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You cannot allege a long term agenda bias on any other user (like you did [WP:AE]] (here without providing proper evidence in the form of diffs. --regentspark (comment) 14:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

"John Crapper" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect John Crapper. Since you had some involvement with the John Crapper redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. signed,Rosguill talk 23:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

WP:BRD at Eli Valley
Please respect WP:BRD at Eli Valley. You added the material, it was objected to (and reverted), now take it to the article Talk: page. Jayjg (talk) 17:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Violatiof of TBAN
Hi Could you please revert you edit at as you were topic banned from I/P conflict --Shrike (talk) 20:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What does Stern's collaboration with Nazi Germany have to do with the I/P conflict? פֿינצטערניש (Fintsternish), she/her (talk) 04:03, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The whole article has to do with I/P conflict.He was Zionist leader so his collaboration or not collaboration has a direct connection to the conflict.Please revert --Shrike (talk) 06:05, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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