User talk:هاوية التغذية

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Your addition to Kousa Mahshi has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences, images or proprietary data. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Your addition of copyrighted data has also been removed from Baklava, Freekeh, Meghli, and Baba ghanoush. Please note that the data is particular to the website's recipes and protected by its disclaimer. If you have further questions, please ask. — Cactus Writer (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

May 2011
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Your additions have been removed, as they appear to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder at Shahiya.com website. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences, images, lists or copyrighted data. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violations will result in you being blocked from editing. — Cactus Writer (talk) 20:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

September 2011
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Oct 2011
Dear users, First of all, I am sorry for not responding to the talk page since I am a new member and wasn’t familiar with the rules in Wikipedia and didn’t know about this page. I have just discovered it. I totally respect copyrights and do not have any intentions for violations. That is why I always cite the authoritative sources that I use for the information that I add. In addition, I am not doing any promotion or advertising. Food and nutrition is the area of my professional expertise, I am adding information from these websites that I consider reliable sources since I am a dietitian and have personally checked nutrition facts of some of these recipes and found that they conform to the USDA nutrient database. Thank you

هاوية التغذية NF 06:04, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


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Nutrition facts
Hello, هاوية التغذية,

I see you've added "nutrition facts" to a variety of articles on foods like dolma, kanafeh, and manakish, referring to shahiya.com as a source. I don't think this is a good idea. The recipes for these foods are extremely variable -- some variants of dolma will have almost no oil, some will be soaked in oil; some include nuts, others don't, etc. etc. Also, I don't think shahiya.com qualifies as a reliable source under Wikipedia rules. Feel free to discuss on my Talk page. --Macrakis (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for contributing nutritional information to various articles. The current wording, "...contains the following nutritional information according to the USDA: " I think could be improved. After all, a food doesn't contain information (nutritional or not). How about simply: "...contains: ...? --Macrakis (talk) 19:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

It isn't useful to have nutritional analyses for foods which are so variable. The fat content of falafel, for example, can probably be half or double the nominal amount, depending on the temperature of the oil, the composition of the dough, the shape and diameter of the balls, how tightly packed they are, etc. And of course the salt/sodium content is completely up to the taste of the cook. Similarly for sfiha: surely some recipes will include much more meat, some will have a thicker or thinner dough, some bakers will use lean meat and others will use fatty, etc. etc.

I don't know where one could possibly get information on "the most prepared recipe" -- surely no one has gone around to 100s of falafel places in the Middle East, Europe, and North America and done nutritional analyses. An a priori nutritional breakdown based on adding up the nutritional values of the ingredients in a recipe depends critically on the recipe.

As for shahiya.com and allrecipes.com, I see no reason to treat them as reliable sources for recipes, let alone for nutritional analyses.

This is not about Arab recipes in particular -- in general, WP only includes nutritional analyses of basic ingredients, not of dishes made from recipes. For example, there is no nutritional information at apple pie or stew, again for the simple reason that the recipes are far too variable for any particular analysis to be meaningful.

Remember also that Wikipedia is not a source of advice, nutritional or otherwise.

Thanks,

--Macrakis (talk) 20:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

shahiya.com
As I said above, I don't think shahiya.com qualifies as a WP:Reliable source -- most online recipe sites do not. If you are adding links to shahiya.com for SEO reasons, please note that Wikipedia uses the "nofollow" attribute, so search engines ignore links from WP to external sources. --Macrakis (talk) 14:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello هاوية التغذية! Welcome to WikiProject Food and Drink! We are a group of editors who work together to better organize information in articles related to food and drink.

The goals of WikiProject Food and Drink: What you can do right now:
 * Consensus about the organization of food and drink related articles.
 * Coordination of editing on food, drink, and restaurant related articles.
 * Categorization of food, drink, and restaurant articles.
 * Creation, expansion, and maintenance of food, drink, and restaurant articles.
 * To help maintain the food portal.
 * You might wish to add User WP Food and drink to your userpage.
 * If you haven't done so already, please consider adding your name to the list of participants.

Once again, welcome to the project! 90.196.139.142 (talk) 13:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)