User talk:とある白い猫/Archive/2005/10

My RfA
Cool Cat-- Thank you for your support on my RfA. And thanks for your concerns about advertising my RfA while doing RC Patrol. I didn't get vandalised quite yet, but will keep that in mind when I pick up on it later. Thanks again. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 01:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Revised the site:
As requested, I revised the site:

Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instances_of_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Abroad

The last section (Instances of the employment of U.S. military forces abroad: 1991-2004) as it was orginally put up was way, way to wordy, as you mentioned.

I was actually working on it when you made modifications.

Hopefully this site will become obsolete or is already obsolete with a more comprehenive list of "Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad".

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Travb (talk • contribs)


 * Hi, on wikipedia we often have a group of people that simply are destructive. I have accidentaly mistaken you for one.
 * I have revised your edit(s) and I feel there is a significant amount of information is removed. I am not going to revert it back but I would be more comfortable if you explained it. Also you may want to use edit summary box so other users have a better idea on what you are doing.
 * Sorry for the trobble
 * -- Cat chi? 03:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you cool cat for your vigilance. I am really new to wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travb (talk • contribs)

Counter Vandalism Unit
The finished product (right) I think. Looks nice IMHO


 * It does not look nice :-) It looks scary :-) From a purely artistic perspective, the final result looks better with the wikipedia logo as it stays in black, white and grey... Right, what do Angela thinks ? Anthere


 * Well, the image can be made better if a photoshop freak kinda fixes it to make it look even more professional. But that's an extra. -- Cat chi? 14:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Skuld
A user who isn't sure what he's looking for should click on the link to the disambiguation page. But I'm not really that concerned about this case. I can understand your point of view and I don't think it would be a travesty if you had your way here. I'm much more disappointed about the recent move of Baldr. - Haukurth 17:13, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Block self
Bored? :) -- Cat chi? 18:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nah, just needed to check how exactly the block pages respond for my proxy blocker bot. --fvw *  18:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sweet. Hey can you check proxies on User:MARMOTs isp? -- Cat chi? 18:58, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm only scanning for open proxies. Did marmot even use those? If so, hers will be blocked along with everyone else's. --fvw *  19:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Have a look at Long term abuse/MARMOT -- Cat chi? 20:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism detection bot
Heya, someone just told me your vandalism detection bot also puts all entries in the block log on that channel. You might want to filter out blocks by me or where the reason contains POPBot for the time being, as the bot's making 3 unblocks + blocks a minute, and is going to be doing so for quite a few hours yet. --fvw *  20:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, the bot records those. :) -- Cat chi? 20:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Since they are blocked indefinately I do not see a reasn to log them. I have intervined. Thanks for letting me know. Although you already know about ths from IRC -- Cat chi? 20:33, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

CVU
Hello, Cool Cat. I was just wondering what the Counter-Vandalism Unit does (besides fighting vandalism, I mean... :-)) What does the bot do, and what does the "rollback" thingie mean? Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The Counter Vandalism Unit is designed to combat vandalism on wikipedia in general. It at the moment operates on 8 more popular languages and meta wiki. The bot serves on IRC and flags potentialy "bad" edits. Users must check the output and determine an action. The bot itself does not take any direct action. Generally 10-20 users are active on #en.wikipedia.vandalism.
 * Aside from vandalims the bot detects copy vios as well. This was an unintentional result though.
 * "rollback" is a function designed for admin only usage. It does not work for non admins. This is because of mediawiki's design.
 * -- Cat chi? 22:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The rollback thing generates an eyes only url that when clicked on reverts the page without any more hassle. I am not actually sure if it works as so far no one has used it. :) -- Cat chi? 22:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I thought IRC was for chats (I obviously don't have it...) &mdash; it can be used to monitor recent changes? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Cool Cat/Wiki-politics
As I told you before, stay civil with the discussion. Zach (Sound Off) 00:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I will try really hard. Can you however consider revising the personal attack(s) on that page by fadix. Such as "Get a life" comment. -- Cat chi? 01:51, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, "get a life" is rather mild. I suggest it is better to ignore it than to ask for a revert. Uncle Ed 00:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Toolbar
He Cool, I happend to come across you page and I noticed your toolbar. I really like how it is set up so I stole it and added my links. I am still playing with it to see what I think, but I think it looks really cool. ... That wasn't a pun, I promise! Anyway, thanks for the toolbar. Psy guy (talk) 00:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure. I can actually create one for you if you like. All I need is a list of links :) -- Cat chi? 01:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer, but, no, I meant that I copied yours and changed the links and colors. It is on my user page now.  I was just letting you that I like your and that is were I got the design.  By the way, I have been reading about the Counter Vandalism thing.  If I ever get IRC, I would like to help y'all out with that.  Psy guy (talk) 17:20, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Tool Bar?
How do you do it? Is there a programming code? C2 aaron 16:20, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * See Templates for info regarding templates and template itself at User:Cool_Cat/topbar -- Cat chi? 19:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Creating Pages
How do you create a new topic page (like on one specific subject)? Are you allowed to? C2 aaron
 * Easy! Just type between and  . Example: type here
 * Alternatively you can "Search" for that page as it likely is covered on a title similarly labeld. -- Cat chi? 19:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Here kitty kitty kitty


Cool: We all miss you in en.wikipedia.vandalism, and we're setting out this milk in the hope it will lure you back... ;-) -- Essjay ·  Talk 22:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * /me chimes in. Yes, you do great work.  Please don't leave us on the hook; we can't even get the CVU working. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * "Woot", "Woot" ! We want vandaltickers! How else are we supposed to know what WP:DEFCON should be set to? IRC's boring as fkuck now that it's just green, black, white and purple! ¡¡¡Ñ!!! 68.39.174.238 22:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * "Here, kitty, kitty". I have mouse carcasses too if you're into that stuff, my cats bring those in all the time! I do miss your IRC purrs rolling by! --MJ( ☎ 22:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC).


 * Had connection problems. We should be back on trak momentarily. Sorry about this. -- Cat chi? 16:03, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Coolcat final decision reached
The arbitration committee has reacheda final decision in the Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek case. I have suggested to your mentors that you create a page related to your mentorship (suggested location - Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship). →Raul654 23:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Please see: User talk:Raul654 . &mdash; Davenbelle 02:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * moved to: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek. &mdash; Davenbelle 04:31, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Stress
I've already said my part as a CVU member, but on behalf of Esperanza, have a cup of coffe, and drop by #wp-esperanza for a stress-busting chat. -- Essjay ·  Talk 02:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

How do I officaly sign up? I am not an admin but I remove vandalism ( ☺ A d a m 1213  ☺ | talk ) 03:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * All you need to do is join #en.wikipedia.vandalism additionaly you can list your username on User:Cool Cat/Counter Vandalism Unit -- Cat chi? 16:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Kakashi
It is a Naruto character who's an uber cool ninja. I run the bot a bit fast, like a ninja, and my little bot completes any of my tasks I want in relative short order. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually compared to Gai he is quite slugish ;) -- Cat chi? 00:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That may be true, but I only use Kakashi for one time requests... He's rather lazy, so I don't task him with much work. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

In the regards of deleting new pages under 14 bytes...
Let me get back to on this one... --AllyUnion (talk) 00:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The only problem I can think of is getting the code for recent changes. Unless you plan to parse that from IRC as well... but that wouldn't necessary make certain you got all the pages. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The parsing of IRC is already done. I know exactly when a tiny page is created. -- Cat chi? 00:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) I fixed the deletion bug, so I know what's wrong now. 2) Have you ever considered what would happen if the IRC recent changes bot stopped working, yet the Wikipedia is still working? --AllyUnion (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention that a sysop, like myself, would require to run this program. I'm not particularly fond of the idea of using an IRC script as the mode of getting new articles. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. The bot would need adequate powers to delete pages.
 * If the irc RC bot its all hell for us. If that hapens we can think of it then but I think thats quite unlikely.
 * I do not have to be the one running the bot if people cant trust handing me such power, after all I am not here for power ;)
 * -- Cat chi? 12:54, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries
I use edit summaries >99.99% of the time (and I mean that literally). If I missed one it was almost certainly an accident. Which archiving are you referring to, exactly? -Splash talk 01:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh don't be alarmed. Templates for deletion archiving. I am not too teribly buged by it, was just a friendly reminder. -- Cat chi? 01:34, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not particularly alarmed, just annoyed that I missed one when archiving. But I can't see it in TfD's history, nor in my contribs list (for today, at least). -Splash talk 01:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting it
It is much appreciated. Fadix 01:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I did not get it deleted because of your request or rfc (which I did not care to read). It would probably survive a vote but to my surprise the RfAr was closed. -- Cat chi? 14:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I would also appreciate it you would adjust your contacts list so as to not segregate us under a horizontal rule and highlight us with a unique background colour. This is, I think, a reasonable request, but I will not try and insist on it. Not listing us would be fine, too. &mdash; Davenbelle 07:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I did not delete it because of your request or the RfC (which I did not care to read just like the majority of your comments). I had most of the material presented there in greater detail in the evidence page anyways. Additionaly thanks for stirring up the dispute with Dmn, I am sure that will make wikipedia a better encyclopedia. -- Cat chi? 14:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I have no idea who User:Dmn is. We've never communicated. &mdash; Davenbelle 09:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I did make the adjustments you requested on contacts. -- Cat chi? 01:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Alt text for images
I saw a reference to the CVU, and discovered that some of the stuff is really hard to read with images disabled. I won't go on a major cleanup spree, but I did add alt="" to some images in User:Cool_Cat/Counter_Vandalism_Unit/Nav, and I added a big alt="1" to User:Coolcat/Wdefcon_1. I see no easy way to fix the alt text on the flag images in User:Cool_Cat/Counter_Vandalism_Unit/Nav (currently, the images are small but the alt text contains long words, so the spacing looks bad when images are not displayed). &mdash;AlanBarrett 17:53, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I do not know how to fix that and would not object to your or anyone elses help ;) -- Cat chi? 21:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Unsigned comment
How can i contact you? please send me a message like you did when i modified that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.97.187.65 (talk • contribs)
 * You can reach me on my talk page like you did ;) -- Cat chi? 10:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

CVU Polish translation
Here it is. i created Polish translation of CVU bot.

BTW: This bot is on #pl.wikipedia channel, not #pl.wikipedia.vandalism. I think that $remove($chan, .vandalism,$chr(35)) could be cutted to $chan. It is up to you, because with first code will work anyway. Hołek ҉ 10:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I have applied the changes. -- Cat chi? 11:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

IRC computer access
Hey, this is Sasquatch and I am using your IRC vandalism monitoring channel. Here's the thing, I want to add people to the blacklist and what not but I can't because I don't have computer access (Access denied... message). My IRC nick is registered under SasquatchW. Was wondering if you could help. Thanks!  Sasquatch  t|c 07:08, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Aw nevermind, adam1213 took care of it.  Sasquatch  t|c 07:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

List of terrorists
What is the nature of the NPOV dispute there? How can it be fixed? -- Beland 03:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * As far as CIA and most of the planet is concerned Osama is a terrosit. As far as Al-quiada members as well as few others he is a hero.
 * I think the NPoV would be including which countries and international organisations (such as EU or NATO etc) declare people listed as terrosit. -- Cat chi? 15:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Religious Article (Teen Bible Study)
The Teen Bible Study is an article. And, it is appropriate. And, maybe not all of it has been proven correct by "scientists". But, is there any evidence proving the content of the Bible is incorrect? And, in this case, I shouldn't have to cite my source. The title tells the source, and the parentheses do too.

I haven't done anything wrong. I'm not forcing religion on anyone. If, they want to read it, and believe it, good. If not, they don't have to. C2 aaron 16:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * This is not because, we are criticizing your religion. Please, don't take this personal.
 * Do realise we have an article on Islam and only few of the material presented can be proven.
 * Cite Sources explains why citing sources is imperative. Few reasons why you need to cite sources:
 * To credit a source for providing useful information.
 * To provide more information or further reading.
 * To enhance the accuracy and credibility of articles.
 * To facilitate quick and efficient verification of facts, especially in cases of vandalism.
 * To minimise the occurrence of editorial disputes, or assist in resolving those which arise.
 * To enhance the overall credibility and authoritative character of Wikipedia.
 * To avoid claims of plagiarism or any other forms of intellectual dishonesty.
 * -- Cat chi? 16:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


 * But, I cited the source. At the end of the article I typed it in parentheses. C2 aaron 16:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


 * What article are we talking about. I do not see you writing an article. If you are talking about the paragraph (Daily Bible Verse section) on your talk page. I don't mind it too much since it is short. Though you may want to place it to your userpage as the user talk page is intended (genraly) for just communication with you. Thanks. -- Cat chi? 16:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Computer3 bot
Hello, I'm a sysop of English Wikibooks. Is it possible to install your Computer3 bot at Wikibooks and #wikibooks IRC channel? --Derbeth 19:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. Bot is active in #wikibooks-en-vandalism -- Cat chi? 17:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Where can I find instructions of using the bot? I see there are whitelisted users and watched pages, where and how are they set? --Derbeth 20:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Just say "computer help" in channel

The bot at #wikibooks-en-vandalism seems not working - it does not show anything. F.e. bot at #wikipedia-en-vandalism displays a message when an user is blocked - this one not. --Derbeth 10:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ill investigate at once. -- Cat chi? 10:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * OK after spending hours on this I located the problem. A typo was causing all the problem, should be resolved. -- Cat chi? 15:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

My Babel page
Thank you for fixing it so that it doesn't display twice on the category. I didn't know you could do that. -- Francs2000 23:12, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat
Please see: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship. &mdash; Davenbelle 06:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I've reverted this edit pending resolution of this issue with Cool Cat and my fellow mentors. --Tony Sidaway Talk 06:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

User:Coolcat/User History
I saw that you tagged this page as &#123;{db}} and that you wanted to have its page history merged with your user page. However, there is a problem: As described on How to fix cut and paste moves, merging page histories will not work when both pages have been changed and edited at the same time. If I try to merge page histories, the result will be that various versions of User:Coolcat/User History will be interleaved between versions in the page history of User:Cool Cat. And this will cause confusion to all other users who attempt to look at the page history. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 11:22, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar
For intensive work in uploading images and being a part of the WikiCommunity.



Take care, '''Molotov   (talk) ''' 17:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you! -- Cat chi? 18:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Contacts w/fuchsia background again
As you'll recall, we've already discussed your colouring of us in your contacts list: User talk:Coolcat/Archive 2005 &mdash; and I see that you've now restored the fuchsia backgrounds. You really should cease making provocative edits concerning us; it only serves ill ends. &mdash; Davenbelle 05:59, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I feel it is aproporate. I am not required to comply everything you order me. I am most certainly not the provocative side. We discussed that you were going to leave me alone, and you did not honored that agreement. Hence it is illogical for me to honor any agreement as all agreemens require cooperation from both sides. I have nothing to discuss with you so long as you continue to hound me. -- Cat chi? 07:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * If you've nothing to talk with me about, why do you feel the need to have me listed as a contact? &mdash; Davenbelle 11:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting argument. I may have to contact you to inform you of a RfAr or RFC for example. Thats not the case at the moment tho. I am not going to bother responding to your userpage as you delete peoples comments as soon as they are posted disallowing threads. -- Cat chi? 17:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Before anyone asks, as one of Cool Cat's three mentors I think it's up to him what color scheme he uses in his own user space. --Tony Sidaway Talk 08:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Of course it is; I had made a request earlier. &mdash; Davenbelle 11:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Respond to other peoples comments on their talk page where they can see it, respond to my comments here so I can see it. -- Cat chi? 11:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Award from Dynamo_ace

 * Arigato gozaimashita! {Thank you very much!} -- Cat chi? 09:03, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

CVU
Hmm. Looked all over the CVU page, but I didn't see any specific directions on how to jump in. I'm guessing that it may be the same as everywhere else — edit my name into the list and go at it — but I thought I'd ask here first. Got any guidelines? Gracias. Deadsalmon 09:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * You may have left out another type of vandalism, namely, repeating text or pics until the article's size is 1 MB, thus overloading the modem of the reader(s) and preventing him/them from opening the page for some time. Jake013 17:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

...hmm, that probably wasn't supposed to go there. At any rate, in response to your message on my talk page, the information on the CVU page is what I had in mind, thanks. Glad you took the initiative on this. Deadsalmon 18:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: CVU templates
I've adjusted User:Cool Cat/CVU1-1 and User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1. Are there any others? --Thatdog 09:01, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Aye. User:Cool Cat/CVU1-2, User:Cool Cat/CVU1-3, User:Cool Cat/CVU1-4, User:Cool Cat/CVU1-5, User:Cool Cat/CVU2-2, User:Cool Cat/CVU2-3, User:Cool Cat/CVU2-4, User:Cool Cat/CVU2-5. The first number is type second is the number of projects one is watching. -- Cat chi? 09:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Done! --Thatdog 09:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

With the template User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1|wikipedia/en the new one looks better but you cant read the text. -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 10:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied... Thatdog 18:31, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've increased the graphic thumbnailing size in the templates from 40px to 43px, which I tested to be the largest possible size that won't break the template size. The text in the ring is still not legible, but then again it wasn't really legible at the original 50px size either.  Thatdog 00:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the logo itself is in widespread isage now. People know what it stands for just too well ;) -- Cat chi? 21:29, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Wiki-DefCon adjustment
I think the bot adjusts need to be a little less sensitive, to avoid sudden jumps over multiple levels; just now, it went to WD-1 directly from WD-3 ;-) Kirill Lokshin 19:27, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

What algorithm does the bot use? N (t/c) 19:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

CVU removal
I see that you removed yourself from CVU. Is there a problem? Or is this a temporary edit? --Nlu 19:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Obviously some people think they can just overload me with more and more stress and expect me to stay calm. I am tried of putting up with constant threats of "oh you just lost your chance of being admin" and other nonsense. Then you have the people trolling/staliking and in addition an arbcom that can barely ask stalkers nicely to leave me alone. It all adds up to this. -- Cat chi? 19:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that you are feeling stress, Cool Cat. Snowspinner did what he thought was right for the sake of the project; his chief worry seemed to be that wikimedia-derived logos on pages of identified vandals and the like might appear to give board-level sanction to the identification of a vandal, whereas the judgement was made at editor level.  In Snowspinner's view, I believe, this has potential legal ramifications.  This doesn't reflect personally on you, it's just something that Snowspinner felt was necessary to safeguard the board and thus the project.  He was playing it safe in the absence of explicit board-level approval for use in the contexts in which the logos have been used.


 * Please don't leave CVU. I know you're much appreciated for your anti-vandal work. --Tony Sidaway Talk  20:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I think there is an issue of proportionality about it, if as you say there was a potential problem in using the logo in that context, then why not replace it with something else and post a polite message explaining it, rather than obliterating the template completely. You know think first, act second. --pgk( talk ) 20:56, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I echo Tony's comments.
 * On the other hand, Tony, I do also think that admins and the even-higher-up folks need to be more ready to hand out blocks (and lengthy blocks). There are some vandals who will clearly never write anything useful.  They shouldn't be given a short block period and allowed to come back and reoffend repeatedly.  Give lengthier blocks -- I am not saying necessarily indefinite, but the blocks need to actually hurt.  --Nlu 20:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * We're already chasing away too many newcomers. I wish our RC people would be less quick to block except in cases of obvious vandal accounts that do nothing else, and do so quite a lot. --Tony Sidaway Talk  21:51, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Our chief was shot down :( We need him -- (drini's page| ☎ ) 21:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Logos
The Board has no policy on this yet, though it is under discussion right now. My latest email on this topic mentioned the logos you'd made (along with many other examples), noting that the CVU logo is now widely in use, with no conclusion from the Board, and that I didn't think it was an issue based on past precedents. No comments were made in response to this to suggest these logos were not ok. I can't give you "Board approval" since the Board has no official logo use policy yet, but I can say no one on the Board has objected to Image:CVU2.PNG. This shouldn't be taken to mean we don't have objections to other modified versions of the logo, especially ones which might suggest an. Angela. 20:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Please see User talk:Angela for my later comments on this. Angela. 05:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Leaving
I just noticed that you where leaving Wikipedia, Cool Cat. So I though I'd say, good-bye, and good luck with whatever you do in the future. -- Karl Meier 21:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Arigato gozaimashita, Akuma-san. -- Cat chi? 21:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Kan jeg få dig til at gentage det på engelsk? Det her er den engelske Wikipedia, og jeg forstår ikke et ord af hvad du siger.. :-) -- Karl Meier 21:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 否, 私は-- Cat chi? 22:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ella prende las turbinas, No discrimina, No se pierde ni un party de marquesina. A ella le gusta la gasolina. Yuber(talk) 02:58, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Better luck, elsewhere. &mdash; Davenbelle 09:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Arigato gozaimashita, Akuma-san. -- Cat chi? 12:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Reconsider
Cool Cat: I know things are rough right now, and I know you're really stressed. The other CVU members have filled me in on what happened, and I am taken aback at the out-of-process deletion of the CVU images, particularly given that I was the one that uploaded them. Given Angela's comment above, and the fact that I have made numerous images to which the Board has given quasi-sanction, I believe it is entirely appropriate for us to have these images. Perhaps it was a bad idea on our part to include them on the templates, however, that does not provide cover for out of process deletion. (Interestingly, I was the creator of the template as well.) I intend to take the matter up with Snowspinner, and see proper redress; I would greatly appreciate it if you would reconsider leaving and would continue to do the valuable work you do with CVU. You know how much I and the other CVU members appreciate it. -- Essjay ·  Talk 21:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

CC: I know you're still around, and I'm hoping you'll come find me and IRC so we can talk.

''If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray.''

I have left the ninety and nine and am searching for you on the mountains; the entire CVU waits with great anticipation to rejoice when you are found. -- Essjay ·  Talk 22:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

CVU Images
Cool Cat, first, please take your well-deserved WikiBreak and come back refreshed. Anyways, I've taken the liberty of removing the CVU image from the WoW, Marmot, and Milk templates because I don't think the logo should be placed on a general vandalism template. It's a (wonderful) Wikipedian organization; however, that doesn't mean it should be placed on the WoWs tag or the Marmot tag. I would recommend creating a new template instead, saying "This user has been identified by the CVU..." or something like that. Hope to see you soon. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Don't leave
We know getting rid of vandels is a hard and uphill struggle, look at me, i had to repair 6 articles from vandals when wikidefcom 2 was declared for a while and low and behold someone vandalised a page i was watching.

I drop on vandals like a ton of bricks, i hope you come back and do the same. We need good users like you, why not burn some steam at my site's forum.

Just don't give up. Come back and be stronger. --Dynamo_ace 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

maybe this will work
-- (drini's page| ☎ ) 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Mmmm... Milk... --Nlu 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)



-- Essjay ·  Talk 23:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Quoting RickK
I have personally been ready to leave a couple of times myself, but I guess I have an addiction to the site. Please don't leave use. You really do good work.  V /M ! 00:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi.
*hugs* 04:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Don't let the actions of others control your life
Jul 02 23:21:30  I've slowly come to the conclusion that "don't feed the trolls" is bad advice. Jul 02 23:21:37 <Snowspinner> Feed them. Then they cross the line and you can get rid of them. Jul 02 23:21:44 <Snowspinner> "Trolling for the forces of good," I call it. When we react emotionally to the actions of others we give them power over us. Ask yourself, should my reaction to someone who I feel has wronged me be to give them control over my life?

In your stay at Wikipedia you will potentially encounter thousands of issues where you disagree with someone and you know your solution would be better. Even if things go your way only half the time, that project is still improved in thousands of ways. I think that alone should make you happy, but only you can decide to allow it. By allowing any issue or any subset of issues to become too important to you, you become vulnerable and risk making yourself unhappy. You already know there will be conflict. You already know that some people will egg you on just to scare you away. You have known these things for a while, at least, and yet you continued contributing. You've shown you can step up to these challenges, so there is no point in quiting now.

I hope you can return and find enough contentment in editing, and ignore the things you dislike and the people who would choose to harm you. --Gmaxwell 06:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Nice IRC logging. Snowspinner 06:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Arbcom
I've made an arbcom request regarding the CVU logo issue and your general conduct in the matter. Snowspinner 06:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Snowspinner, "and your general conduct in the matter" is gratuitous. --Nlu 06:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Not really - there are two issues. The first is the usage of the logos, the second is that Cool Cat is again implying official support for something where there is none. Snowspinner 06:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it is he really thought he had support... oh well... [[image:Wiki-i-love-you.png|thumb]]. Have a rest CoolCat and come back later. Anthere

Some people have said that you are leaving are you? -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 09:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

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have a look at http://www.paulsview.com/images/Cat_and_mouse-1.jpg -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 11:48, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Impersonator
I just blocked the newly-created account User:CooICat (capital eye instead of ell in the username) as an impersonation of you. If you created that account to prevent it falling into a vandal's hands, sorry for the inconvenience. FreplySpang (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * P.S. There was also a new User:CooI Cat today - Sasquatch zapped that one. FreplySpang (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yea, I think that was MARMOT but the user had copied your user page and everything. For a second I was like Cool_Cat's back? but then... no.. but now you are! =)  Sasquatch  t|c 18:46, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nay, I don't think so. There was a vandal a few months ago, in May, called the Doppelganger, who copied user pages and sigs and everything, then posed as the original user and authorized absurd things like AfDs and made obscene remarks and so on. This might be a return. Don Diego 20:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Ads
Since you oppose the 1-click Answers agreement, I thought you might like to come sign Wikiproject no ads. Your input is welcomed! <font style="color:#5A3696;">♥♥purplefeltang e  l <font style="color:#CC0096;">♥ <font style="color:#5A3696;">♥  02:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

User:UBX/du-1
I have created and am now using User:UBX/du-1. Which I think puts across a much better and very important message. And doesn't contain a category ;-) - David Gerard 16:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Arigato gozaimashita, David Gerard-sama. -- Cat chi? 13:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

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Barnstar of revision
- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 00:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Channel Access Removed
Jtkiefer removed access for me. I was later give a 2. Can you please fix this up? - ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 00:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi Cool Cat. Just cleaned your talk up a touch at the bottom, but that ain't why I'm here. Like to point out that JTK removed Adam's access because of an inappropriate comment Adam made which, as I understand it, caused JTK to worry about Adam's understanding of IRC precedents and of Freenode's guidelines on keeping things cool.


 * Incidentally, I'm becoming worried that Adam still isn't getting it. I would love for someone to take him under their wing - hell, I'd do it myself. Can you maybe suggest to him that he needs to read up a few things and get some understanding of the wiki way into his head? If you want, refer him to me for informal mentoring or something; he's a clueless newbie who doesn't need to run into the wrong sort of trouble - we can sort it, no problems. Rob Church Talk 01:32, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * It was a joke... and I said that it was one. I never abused the access power that I got. The only time I kicked someone was when you came on with your bot and we were getting double posts and after asking people in the room and they approved I kicked. -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 06:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Exactly as Robchurch said. If you would like more clarification on this you know where to find me on IRC :).  Jtkiefer  T - 01:40, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Here is what I think: I am not going to get involved directly. I am not going to overule any desicions made as it is not my place. However I will give adam a level 2 access as we know he is definitely not a vandal. This will get him auto-voice as well. Objections? -- Cat chi? 16:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * It's a bit irrelevant in some ways, since the use of voicing in the channel has been changed, so admins are normally voiced. (I guess regulars would get voiced if we went moderated). Autovoice has been switched off. (And according to the access list he is still level 2 anyway, just no autovoice for anyone at the moment) --pgk( talk ) 16:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

A new warning system plugin thing
From cvu talk I just put it there. + made redirect cvu

I have made User:Adam1213/warn I have some ideas on making it work even better with linking from the bot -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 05:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * De-linked warn since it was redirected elsewhere (cross-namespace redirect to user space not considered good). Rob Church Talk 19:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Warning about imposter
I see that your name was listed as a person who was imperonated. It may have been part of a campaign of intimidation by some editors that have targeted a handful of users whose edits they do not like. FYI- you may want to read this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Marine_69-71#Clues_to_who_the_rash_of_imposters_may_be_and_why

Iago Dali 13:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, I am an infrequent target of imperonation actually. Last wave of user:SuperTroll attacks involved me tho. :) Thanks for the heads up. -- Cat chi? 16:51, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

What's with the link?
Why the small letters ? Low self esteem? Don't let those vandals or your RfA get to you, there's still lots of time, then you can beat 'em black and blue when you get your mop and bucket. ;) Hang in there - Don Diego(Talk) 18:59, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh no, small sig is kawaii (cute). ;)
 * Adminship is a distant dream for me. People lack support after RfA's, its only normal to lack support after RfArs. Also some people hold me responsible of RickKs departure. Aside from that I don't recall somewhat sensable excuses for opposes.
 * -- Cat chi? 14:32, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I see, I see. Mind if I ask how old you are? I know I'm not in a position to criticize you, but did you notice that your spelling needs improvement? :) No offence. Anyway, it deson't rlaley mtater waht yuor splelnig is lkie, waht marttes is taht the frist and lsat lttres are in the rghit pacle. Cool, eh? ;)^ Don Diego(Talk) 19:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

A script I made
I have made a autoit script that reverts an article and warns the user with test3-n|article and signs it. the script compliled rename it .zip and extract you need to be on the difference page and that version may open print. It is currently only IE compaible and you must click ok to the first thing on the diff page and let it go. click the buttons when the page it is on loads. -- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 06:40, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

daisy, daisy!
There's a problem with the AE-35 unit, Dave. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 15:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

IRC Bot
How do I use this?

Prodego  talk  19:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The bot has a rather simple color sceme.
 * Red is for blanking candidates
 * Blue is for giberish candidates
 * Pink is for whatched pages (for review)
 * Cyan is for copy vio candidates
 * Purple is for blocks/unblocks
 * Etc Etc...
 * While any alert is not automaticaly "bad" it likely is. ;)
 * Generally the practice is review diffs (url generated by the bot) and revert if necesary.
 * Just tag along on the IRC channel for about 20 minutes and it will make perfect sense.
 * I hope this helps -- Cat chi? 22:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I should have said, "How I use this, do I install something, all I see is source code?".

Prodego  talk  22:21, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh no, just join the IRC channel. You dont need to install a thing (aside from your IRC client) -- Cat chi? 22:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * What is the channel?


 * Prodego  talk  23:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * #wikipedia-en-vandalism -- Cat chi? 23:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Bot
Addition to bot: I don't know how your "wheeler" detection works, if it just looks for a move to "on wheels", but it would be useful to do something similar by watching for the same user to move multiple pages quickly. So, if someone moves a page, the bot watches for that person to move more pages, then labels them a wheeler. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">BRIAN</b> 0918 • 2005-10-29 18:16

Also, we need a bnu version for article names. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">BRIAN</b> 0918 • 2005-10-29 19:53

Fair Use images
Your user and talk page spaces contain an image that is tagged as Fair Use. I always hate to be the bearer of bad news on this stuff, but as per copyright (legal) issues on this, we are not allowed to have images classified as fair use on pages not related to the subject, especially on the user space. If you could remove the image (or create a mock up, using legos, or clay, or something), that would be most excellent. Again, I'm sorry I had to do this (I had to remove Image:Cowbell2.jpg), but I'm trying to create a greater encyclopedia. Thanks a lot, User:Mys e kurity|Mysekurity ]] additions | e-mail ]]03:30, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I think this is an example of copyright paranoia, which image(s) are we talkin about? -- Cat chi? 09:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but the image I am referring to is Image:Theweakestlinkwho.jpg, on both your talk and user page. It could very well be that I'm paranoid, but I'd just like to make sure there's no infringements. It is not considered fair use to have pictures of unrelated content on a user space. I personally would prefer to be able to use the pictures, but under Fair Use law, we're not allowed. If you want to bring this up with one of the experts at Image Tagging or somewhere, I'm sure that'd be fine. Happy editing, User:Mys e kurity|Mysekurity ]] additions | e-mail ]]19:59, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I can remove it with a heavy heart but I really am not sure whose copyrights we are violating? Dr.Who? Weakest link? BBC? -- Cat chi? 20:54, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't need to bother you with it. Ill remove the image and link to the image instead. It was hard to see anyways. -- Cat chi? 21:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Arright, thanks. See my talk page for more on my copyvio issues about Image:Cowbell2.jpg. I ended up linking to the image. Thanks again, and sorry for the paranoia, - User:Mys e kurity|Mysekurity ]] additions | e-mail ]]21:53, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Nonsense you did your job (I think) ;) -- Cat chi? 22:00, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Computer on #wikipedia-fr-vandalism
Hello, as i understand you are the maintainer of this Irc bot. I just want to know who is there is someone in the french team who is authorised to add (watched pages, white listed users, etc.) to this bot. I ask this because actually this bot is not very useful (and not well know too) for the french team as he detect nearly onlys blanking and suspected copyvios. Sincerely. fr:Utilisateur:Miniwark 12:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Adieussiatz, any admin and any whitelisted user can add others. I'd be more than happy to add you and others and modify the code in whatever way it suits your (French Wikipedia's) needs. The bot is designed for en.wikipedia vandal behavior and there of course will be differences. -- Cat chi? 13:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Back to complaining about access
I have found the evidence of why and proof it was unfair that I have my 10 removed. I have only put in the parts I think are relevant. If you want I can give you the entire chat history. My time +10 Tue Oct 25 10:00:24 connected [10:09] adam1213: if you want to tell me something I will be in wikipedia-en-vandalism or pm me as most of the time I am not looking at this probably thinking that I was not going to see what was said AbuJihad says [10:02] AbuJihad: Adam, I'm going to spank you. [10:02] * AbuJihad spanks Adam [10:02] * adam1213 why [10:02] * adam1213 spanks abujihad until i gets the idea not to dco it to me [10:03] * AbuJihad spanks Adam viciously until Adam tearfully apologizes for being a bad boy [10:03] * adam1213 no apologising [10:03] * adam1213 YOU STARTED IT [10:04] * adam1213 wonders why abujihad wants to argue with me [10:10] * AbuJihad waves his open hand menacingly over Adam1213's heinie [10:10] RobChurch: Kick his ass, AbuJihad ;-) [10:11] * AbuJihad goes loco on Adam1213s ass!! [10:11] * adam1213 wonders why thie hill abjihad is so crazy [10:11] adam1213: an seams not all that smart [10:12] AbuJihad: Adam1213, you bring it out in me, I can't help it [10:13] AbuJihad: Adam1213, your prose is like jewels in my mouth [10:15] karynn|zzz: Evilphoenix is an idiot. [10:17] * adam1213 I don't knink that enivlphoenix is an idiot [10:20] AbuJihad: Adam1213, how are you? [10:20] adam1213: good   [10:21] AbuJihad: Adam, I'm going to kick your ass, is that okay? [10:21] Minixbeak: AbuJihad: stop. [10:21] WikiFanatic: AbuJihad, stop it [10:21] AngryParsley: ALERT ALERT INTERNET FIGHT [10:21] WikiFanatic: AbuJihad, if you keep at it you're going to get kicked [10:21] AdamBishop: AbuJihad, khadahalum Allah! [10:21] Jtkiefer: Abu, cool it [10:21] AbuJihad: Angry, I would imagine not. [10:22] * adam1213 I am going to kick you abujihad... [10:22] WikiFanatic: adam1213 has ops? [10:22] adam1213: no [10:22] RobChurch: adam1213 can't kick anyone. [10:22] Jtkiefer: nobody fears you adam either [10:22] AbuJihad: Adam, you can't kick me, as far as I'm aware. [10:22] adam1213: I was kicing [10:22] adam1213: kiding [10:22] Linuxbeak: AbuJihad: I said stop. [10:22] RobChurch: Would we all like to chill out? [10:22] WikiFanatic: Kicing isn't that good. XD [10:22] adam1213: if i did have ops I would ask for support to kick you first anyway [10:22] WikiFanatic: All I said was 'stop' [10:22] * Redwolf24 sings the calm down song [10:22] Dragonfly6-7: AbuJihad - inshallah, you won't get agitated again. [10:22] RobChurch: adam1213: I can guarantee you won't get those. [10:23] Jtkiefer: adam, stop, abu, stop ok [10:23] adam1213: thanks linuxbeak for telling to stop [10:23] Linuxbeak: Jtkiefer: thank you. [10:23] AngryParsley: AbuJihad: come on Babajobu, chill [10:23] Dragonfly6-7: And then the song helps them feel better. [10:24] AbuJihad: Angry, I am calm now. [10:25] *** -ChanServ- You have been deleted from the access list for [#wikipedia-en-vandalism]

also know as [10:31] *** AbuJihad is now known as Babajobu.

in wikipedia-en-vandalism [10:27] Jtkiefer: because I do not have faith that you'd be willing to show restraint if you got into a situation where you felt you wanted to kick or ban someone

Note that I was banned for speaking about this. NO WARNING that i would be kicked in my opinion there is a hypocrite....

-- ☺ A dam1213☺ Talk+|WWW 07:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Fair use-firefox
Template:Fair use-firefox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Templates for deletion. Thank you. --Sherool 16:27, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification, I have made comments on the page. You may want to take a look. ;) -- Cat chi? 20:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)