User talk:とある白い猫/Archive/2008/06

Mystified by bot with javanese articles
Sorry to do this - but what exactly is the bot doing with WP EN Indonesian articles and WP Jav articles? Apologies if my inability to see what it happening is blindingly obvious to you SatuSuro 04:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

OK I have just worked it out - is that really necessary ? SatuSuro 04:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, can you give me a link to the issue? You seem to be upset but I do not see what this is about. -- Cat chi? 12:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah not upset in the slightest - the bot is adding accents to javanese place name links on indonesian articles in english wikipedia and it seemed so odd i was gonna try to work out why - if it makes somebody happy - who cares ? - it just seemed quite odd for a while - so really in the end a false alalm - i think - its just when i was trying to learn javanese i cannot remember accents in the western alphabet for javanese words - thats all -cheers - if it fits thats ok -  SatuSuro 13:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Can you link me to one these changes. I think I may know why... -- Cat chi? 13:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * give me a minute or two if thats ok please SatuSuro 13:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hell my watch list is well over the average and is causing me problems - not long now SatuSuro 13:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Banjar%2C_West_Java&diff=216811808&oldid=209669164 see that one makes sense - its replacing a name damned clever too - but a few days ago there was an accent part to what it was up to - maybe not a good example though SatuSuro 13:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh those... The bot scans every individual wikipedia (full list) it operates on. Let me explain what the bot did. Bot noticed the following
 * jv:Banjar Patroman does not exist.
 * jv:Kutha Banjar does exist.
 * jv:Kutha Banjar links to en:Banjar, West Java
 * Based on above input the bot updates pages
 * Links on en:Banjar, West Java is updated like you pointed out
 * Links on jv:Kutha Banjar is updated. It used to lack links to en, ms, nl, sv wikis.
 * Of course that isn't all.The bot added or updated pages on the following wikis to link to the correct page
 * id.wikipedia
 * ms.wikipedia
 * nl.wikipedia
 * pl.wikipedia
 * su.wikipedia
 * This procedure is called interwiki linking.
 * -- Cat chi? 13:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks a lot for such a full explanation - it is good that you are able to give such an explanation

I realised long ago such a process occurred - it just seemed odd when i saw the bot putting accents in where i didnt think they were needed - as for offering to get the bot to do things - I dont trust mechanised processes on some areas of what i call cat tagging - where there are issues where I believe an actual looking at the category and or the derivative sub categories is useful.

So as much as some areas might benefit from the level of bot work - the one that I am currently doing has a three fold purpose - I am actually looking to see what cats the NZ project has - as a way of checking against what I have tagged in the Australian and Indonesian projects - and trying to see where there might be benefits to any of the projects in any direction - if mechanised, things can get missed and or misinterpreted :) - however I can see where a bot could do it more efficiently and thoroughly - a lot depends on my memory and capacity to make the correlations - in 1974 I remember meeting a man who used to sit in front of slides of cells from dead children to look for patterns - I realise now we have pattern recognition software that far out does the human capacity to work at that level of checking :) SatuSuro 01:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Categories are machine generated lists. Bots will be more effective in dealing with them. For example I can tag all talk pages of artiles in a spesific category with a "wikiproject" template. -- Cat chi? 18:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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Your bot...
made this edit which is not very good. -- Mr Stalker  ( talk ) 06:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. Thanks for notifying me. Your vigilance is commendable. :) -- Cat chi? 11:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot flag in Korean Wikipedia
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MfD nomination of WikiProject Graphical content problem
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 * Would you agree to withdraw the nomination and "historicify" the wikiproject as a "bad idea". I think this would work better. Otherwise what I tried back then will end up reappearing with a new name. There are many examples of such historic "bad ideas" in the past. See pages tagged with historical for a few examples. -- Cat chi? 11:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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Bot: using «REDIRECT»
Hi, could you please make your bot in ru.wp to use REDIRECT instead of localized version «перенаправление» (edit example). Everybody is using REDIRECT in our Wikipedia, and localized version is simply confusing users. —AlexSm 21:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I asked a developer to fix this and he said he "committed" it. The issue should be resolved. -- Cat chi? 13:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

United States Presidential Election 2008 Mediation
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RFC
Hi, I strongly request that you make such a statement in user space, if possible. There's a real danger that rehashing individual grievances within the RFC would fracture the process and undo any chance of reform. With respect, Durova Charge! 17:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a three year experience with arbcom. I think I have an idea on what is broken. I do not intend to rant, there is plenty of that. -- Cat chi? 18:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You have three years; I have two and a half. We've both seen where the bodies are buried (I could probably even find Jimmy Hoffa by now).  Please be very judicious about the direction you take this.  Hope you see and respect this.  Best,  Durova Charge! 18:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you'll support my decision to move material to talk. Durova Charge! 20:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, do you think you can move it back, trim if you have to but that post belongs to the actual original page. Feel free to modify it. RFC talk pages are generally used to discuss material related to the actual RFC page and not related to the actual topic discussed on the RFC page. Much like noticeboard talk pages. -- Cat chi? 11:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)