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Sorry for the late response
Hi Cat, you had asked me a few months ago if I would be able to help with getting "out of universe" info on some anime related articles. At the time I was very busy and was not logging in to Wikipedia, so I did not get your message until recently, sorry about that. Anyway the answer is an emphatic yes. However in spite of having an account for awhile now I am actually not that experienced of an editor. I have of course read WP:EDIT, WP:COPYEDIT and quite a few other pages on the behind the scenes workings of Wikipedia, but I have not put much of that info into practice, and of course there are some aspects of editing that I have not yet found information on. For example I have noticed that many anime related pages could be greatly improved by including information from the official site of the series. Unfortunately many of the official sites have no English version and I don’t know what the community’s stance on referencing non English sources on English Wiki pages is. Also if I were to add my translations of quotes and/or production info would that be considered “Original Research” (Edit: I found the answer to this myself at WP:NONENG so no need to worry about it)? If you could give me some advice and/or tips on these and any other issues that come up I would really appreciate it. Also please let me know what specific articles you currently are looking for Japanese speakers to help with and I will be more than happy to lend a hand ( are you still working on Oh My Goddess!?). ThanksColincbn (talk) 07:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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You got email
White Cat, look for an email from me. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 15:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * My response and the only comment I will make on the matter is utter disappointment at arbcom. The ban was placed by the community, not arbcom. It would be strange for arbcom to lift a ban arbcom did not even went as far as endorsing. Arbcom did not even accept the Jack Merridew arbcom case as "he was already community blocked". The user has been indef banned like three times and you are willing to lift that. It hasn't even been a year. I do want to remind arbcom that they went out of their way to even talk about lifting my three-year-old mediation ban. To an untrained eye (my eye) it seems like arbcom only and only rewards extremely poor conduct such has harassment going on for years. -- Cat chi? 07:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * While I do not normally expect prompt responses, I'd welcome a response before arbcom decides on the matter. -- Cat chi? 18:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Since arbcom is not willing to be the solution to this problem and insists on being the source it, I have brought this matter into Jimbo's attention. I do not know if he will get involved. I hope he does. I am tired of dealing with this issue which will soon celebrate its fifth anniversary as of 12 May 2009. -- Cat chi? 21:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * White Cat, I'll listen to Jimbo's thoughts, of course. But if he can edit without bother you, then I think we should let him come back. Jack Merridew will be under editing restrictions that will keep him completely away from you and from commenting about you. One or more experienced users will be monitoring his contributions to make sure that he is not bothering you in any way. I made the restrictions strict in this way because of the problems that you had in the past. I think we should give it a chance to work, truly. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 22:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We already tried that in commons. That didn't quite stop him. After his ban from en.wikipedia his first few edits on commons were stalking which has seemingly stopped. He doesn't make any edits there anymore.
 * This user had no useful contributions. He dedicated his time in removing my work. Weather it is Turkey related topics, or weather it is Anime related topics or any other topics I care about like mass removing episode and character articles. His ban here has not lasted half a year. Has it been quarter of a year?
 * Arbcom wasn't willing to lift my mediation ban. Why is arbcom removing Jack Merridew's ban? Is he more worthy to the community than I? I really want to know.
 * I demand arbcom to document their reasoning in detail. Why am I even having this conversation with arbcom? Jack Merridew is a sanctioned troll and sockpuppeter. He was convicted multiple times in harassing multiple users - of which at least three times by arbcom. He had absolutely no useful contribution for the past few years aside from an edit pattern that closely resembles User:TTN who IIRC was banned by arbcom for his edit pattern.
 * -- Cat chi? 22:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I still do want to know why arbcom isn't willing to lift my mediation ban yet is considering lifting Jack Merridews indef ban. After all he was the very reason I got that ban. He interfered with every mediation attempt I made. -- Cat chi? 04:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Your mediation ban is a separate issue, but I will be glad to raise it with the Arbitration Committee now. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 10:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You may want to review the evidence and rephrase that statement. Arbcom did a poor job back then. I want all the relevant evidence reviewed.
 * My prohibition from mediating was passed 4 to 3 #Coolcat prohibited from mediating and four workshop sections were linked to the rationale. I'll give you a snapshot
 * #Mediation and opposition: Links to this diff where Jack Merridew (aka Davenbelle) did not even let me adjust section depths. This is evidence of Davenbelle stalking. I had no vested interest in the article Javier Solana yet Davenbelle followed me to that article and completely disrupted my mediation attempt with his constant revert waring even over the most minor issue documented in this paragraph.
 * #Coolcat's status as a mediator: I self nominated myself to MedCom on 4 April 2005. Among the people opposing was Jack Merridew (aka Davenbelle).
 * #Coolcat's mediation efforts at Greco-Turkish relations: Revert war by Davenbelle over my format edits. I tried to use a color scheme and Jack Merridew (aka Davenbelle) revert wared to remove it. He later revert wared over a typo fix I had. To date he made one and only one edit to the article. Clearly his interest was not the article in question but instead was my involvement.
 * #Nanking Massacre: Jack Merridew (aka Davenbelle) was of course involved but so was Karl Meier (aka Stereotek) who revert wared over thumbnail sizes with me. Fadix (aka many aliases: Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan: Didodo, Rodolui, Drosophilawhodoestnotfl, Anatolmethanol) later joined the joint harassment.
 * Fadix got a one year ban on 11 April 2007 which was extended until 25 February 2009 due to the abusive use of sockpuppets. The only relevance this has to my case is that this is was one of the three guys that interfered with my mediation attempt.
 * In conclusion Jack Merridew (aka Davenbelle) has interfered with each and every one of my mediation attempts even on articles he made no contribution at all (Javier Solana). The "separate issue" isn't as separate as it seems to be. The evidence speaks for itself. All arbcom needs to do is look at it.
 * -- Cat chi? 15:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You know, let me tell you what is going to happen.
 * Arbcom will lift the ban of Jack Merridew. We certainly need more people like him on the project.
 * Arbcom will not actually discuss my mediation ban. We certainly do not want anyone like me on the project the slightest bit of courtesy.
 * Jimbo will not even get involved. Imagine helping out in a complicated - yet not so complicated case. I can understand his reasoning. Sure. I respect what he is doing. But if arbcom is this incompetent and unwilling to be the solution who else can I go to?
 * Arbcom is very predictable with their incompetence. So I am sure all three things I stated above will become a reality.
 * Now tell me, why should I or anyone even care about obeying any policy or guideline?
 * Evidently arbcom will never enact any long term sanctions. At most arbcom would blocks for something like three months...
 * Arbcom will go out of their way to incompetently ignore any and all relevant evidence even when the case is a slam dunk. All arbcom needed to do was read the evidence - which arbcom did not even glance at. The community (non-arbcom) banned Jack Merridew forever. And once that was over arbcom is going out of it's way to allow the freak back and by doing so arbcom overrules the community ban probably for the first time in wiki history (we aren't talking about a ban by a single user but by multiple users). Arbcom is only and only helping once side of the dispute and that side clearly was never me. Not in 2005, not in 2006, not in 2007 and of course not in 2008. The fact that I am listing four years says something, doesn't it?
 * The sad part of it all is that this isn't the first time. I had to deal with the nonsense by MARMOT spoofing IPs and all. Brion has a report on it. I'll let you find it but I know you will not even look at it so there really is no point in me presenting a link. MARMOT too was given a second chance and he used it to make my day miserable. For that he was later unblocked. Fortunately he left the community or else I am sure arbcom would go out of their way to help MARMOT continue to be the source of annoyance.
 * You know, I am not sure why arbcom is committing this illogical and disruptive behavior. Why is it that arbcom is so unwilling to be a part of a solution and going out of it's way to be the very source of the problem? I do not know what motivates arbcom to act this irrationally.
 * Maybe what prompted this nonsense is me trying to help arbcom with the CSI thing. Clearly, arbcom doesn't need any help as they do just fine in ignoring presented evidence.
 * -- Cat chi? 18:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, I would recommend arbcommers to comment on the WP:VPP#A wiki equavalent of CSI (developing idea) thread. The proposal should be shaped to meet the needs of arbcom above everything else after all. -- Cat chi? 07:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Forget about it. Arbcom doesn't care about evidence. What good would it do if the evidence is collected by impartial parties if arbcom is going to ignore it. -- Cat chi? 18:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)