User talk:とある白い猫/Archive/2010/07

Speedy deletion nomination of Ttnet
A tag has been placed on Ttnet, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Errr... That is the largest ISP in Turkey... In fact the only ISP all others use TTNET's hardware for ADSL services I belive. I know this is a late reply as the speedy was reversed (by you). I just wanted to clarify the details. The company was recently (about a decade or so ago) privatized so it doesn't have much of a history which is why article is short. The company itself is colossal though - at least as far as Turkey is concerned... -- Cat chi? 22:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. The problem wasn't actually wasn't whether or not TTNET was notable, it was that, when I placed the tag, the page was a massive advertisement--so much so that there didn't appear to be enough recoverable info to keep the page (speedy delete criteria G11). However, upon looking at the history, I saw that the problem was that User:Sena5k had added all of that advertising on top of a reasonable stub.  I removed, the CSD, then reverted to a non advert-like page.  While Sena5k kept adding advertisement-like language, I was eventually able to get through to him/her what was needed.  He found a newspaper article (only 1, but better than nothing), and I helped him/her with a series of edits to keep the article in an encyclopedic tone.  While the article as it now exists is just a stub, it's at least accurate, minimally cited, and doesn't read like an advertisement.  I personally believe the company is more than notable enough to deserve their own article; I would love it if we could get more sources to verify that.  If you know of any other reliable sources that we can use to expand the article, I'd be more than happy to help edit them in.  Even if they're  links to articles in Turkish, that's fine, as long as you or someone else can translate the basic idea, I am happy to copy-edit the info into a usable form.  Qwyrxian (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. I should have researched before talking I suppose. This might be possible but unfortunately I am no longer anywhere near Turkey. So... we'd need a "local" to find written sources and etc. I can tell you a few things about the companies history. The company had an outage a few years ago when an underwater fiber-optic line was severed. The entire country lost internet for a few days. Could be its own section I think. Aside from that I do not know whats important enough to be in the article. :/ -- Cat chi? 23:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)