User talk:---hoep

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Hi! Please don't remove "=" symbol ("=PB") from results - this means the athlete repeated the record, otherwise it shows a record is set for the first time. Pelmeen10 (talk) 10:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * You never stop learning - thank you very much! ---hoep (talk) 10:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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July 2023
Hi ---hoep! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of 2023 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

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 * Thank you for the instruction, Callanecc. Please send this to those who have started to reset factually correct edits completely unjustifiably in order to enforce their unfounded self-proclaimed "guidelines" by dictation. ---hoep (talk) 10:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


 * You have been clearly told two or three times that you need to update ALL countries if you decide to update medal tables, and not only your favourite country. Over the last 24 hours your half-done edits have been reverted by 3 different users at that same article, so apparently its you who is the problem. Snowflake91  (talk) 11:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have to do anything that they think they have to tell me to do. I had already told them that. So do you have a cognitive problem? Apart from the fact that I correct only that, about which I have secured knowledge. I will not go into the rest of your pamphlet, which neither corresponds to the facts nor has any legitimacy. ---hoep (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Adding onto this, please stop updating the Competitive History table of Helen Kevric. Medal tables for artistic gymnasts do NOT include "mixed" as that is not yet a widely adopted event final for artistic gymnastics competitions.  Competitions that do include them, such as Swiss Cup and DTB Pokal Mixed Cup, indicate the result under the "Team" section.  Until such an event is competed regularly at bigger competitions, such as Continental Championships/Games, World Championships, or the Olympics, do not include "mixed" as a separate event column.  Furthermore it seems that you are only adding this field to Helen Kevric's page and not the other artistic gymnasts who have competed at Swiss Cup, DTB Pokal, and even EYOF the past two years.  As mentioned by @Snowflake91, it seems that you focus solely on favorites and not the sport as a whole. Mypurplelightsaber (talk) 12:43, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the instruction. I would like to point out that I do not consider it my task to focus on "the sport as a whole", but to make edits that a) interest me and b) correspond to my level of knowledge. I had already pointed this out (in this regard, constantly repeated requests, which also do not correspond to the facts, see Snowflake91, I reject as grotesque). Regarding my edit concerning Kevric: there is nothing wrong with this, on the contrary, see my notes in the edit: 1. inserting a column for "Mixed" may be unusual, but it corresponds to the spirit of constant change. 2. a version where the same competition is mentioned twice, although it is the same competition, confuses the reader. Perhaps another suitable alternative should be sought instead of constantly boycotting an editing that is correct in terms of content. ---hoep (talk) 13:11, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The Competitive History section that is present on nearly all wikipedia articles about artistic gymnasts should match and be consistent. Having different tables for different gymnasts could also confuse the reader.  Consistency is important.
 * Perhaps a solution would be to create another separate table in the Competitive History section that focuses solely on the Mixed events. But right now I believe that the main table in the section should be for events that are typically contested across all major competitions: Team and All-Around, and then either VT, UB, BB, FX (women) or FX, PH, SR, VT, PB, HB (men).  But as I mentioned, due to mixed events seldom being contested at artistic gymnastics competitions, they should not be included in the main table. Mypurplelightsaber (talk) 15:45, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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