User talk:.1337.

August 2008
Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. ~ Ame I iorate U T C @ 03:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

How many sources would be enough?
I have bookshelves, boxes, and filing cabinets full of material from over 25 years of intense involvement and research on the German Shepherd Dog. I have so much material on the German Shepherd Dog, there's no way I could possibly list it all.

How would I possibly cite thousands of pedigrees and photos that I have of German Shepherd Dogs from all over the world, going back for generations all the way to the breed's beginning, that clearly show the main variations within the breed? Many of those photos and pedigrees also prove the color and pattern genetic facts that I added to the article, but again, I know of no way to cite such material.

I can show you how a breeder's guesses of a color genetics situation made in the 1950s, has been repeated by authors ever since then all the way up to the present time, although the original guess was erroneous! Most books on the breed do not explain colors and patterns, the genetics of colors and patterns, or how color and pattern changes as a dog develops from puppy to adult.

In the past, I've written articles on the breed that have appeared in some well known GSD publications.

Most of the material I have isn't available anywhere on the web and quite a few of the books I have are no longer in print. Much of the other printed material on the breed that I have is also rare historic material. I have put a lot of material on the web to try to preserve it and make it available to all, but all the material I've put on the web is only a fraction of the amount of material I have that I want to get onto the web.


 * Response to your inquiry at Editor assistance/Requests: Original research is not absolutely forbidden, however, there are more rules governing its use. From WP:COS: "This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Wikipedia, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, the editor may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our neutrality policy. See also Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest." If you have sources that meet the standards of WP:RELIABLE, please replace your edits citing those references. If you have books or articles that are no longer in print, that does not preclude them from being used as sources; however, you will still have to provide the publication information. For future communications on talk pages like these, don't forget to sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically add your user name. Best, epicAdam (talk) 21:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. See my comments at Editor assistance/Requests. In essence: edit cautiously, and use the Talk page before inserting your own Original Research. Peter Ballard (talk) 02:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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