User talk:1.42.61.141

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National varieties of English
Hello. In a recent edit to the page Stanley Milgram, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

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In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. Sir Joseph (talk) 22:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * User:Sir Joseph, you can very clearly see in my edit that I did not change the spelling of any words. I'm aware of spelling differences between American and British English, and I did no such thing. I took punctuation out of the titles of essays/experiments, which is what Wikipedia says we should do per WP:Logical quotation. American English does not mean we should include punctuation inside the titles of works where it was not originally. I also gave standard capitals to the title of a song, and properly capitalized the title of a magazine. I also removed spaces between a citation and the text it applies to. So there is no changes to or from varieties of English, and I think you've tried to broadly categorize my edit, but in so doing have miscategorized it. Thank you. 1.42.61.141 (talk) 22:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I also wanted to add that I WP:Logical quotation states that it applies to sentence fragments, for example, "lifelong identification with the Jewish people" is a sentence fragment that I took punctuation out of. 1.42.61.141 (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * In America, we put the quotation inside, not outside the punctuation, like this." Sir Joseph (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Sir Joseph, I am aware of that as I see it quite often. But as I understand it, and as many other experienced editors I have seen explain it over the years, Wikipedia's Manual of Style overrides what specific varieties of English prefer to do. 1.42.61.141 (talk) 22:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * In general, possibly, but the MOS is a guideline, not a policy, and it has exceptions and local consensus overrides it. It's not a big deal, but if an article hasn't been touched in years because it's preferable to have one standard, then that was the consensus of those on that article. Sir Joseph (talk) 23:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have gone back to Logical quotation, and it reads that we use logical quotation "regardless of the variety of English in which they are written". 1.42.61.141 (talk) 23:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * See the top of the page. "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply. Any substantive edit to this page should reflect consensus. When in doubt, discuss first on the talk page." Sir Joseph (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)