User talk:101.187.83.6

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Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Please don’t make edits that merely change the capitalization of template names, like you did at Jean-Jacques Rousseau. This brings no benefit to the article. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Reverted your edit. Your explanation at my Talk page didn’t help. Please do not make this kind of change that brings no improvement to the article but merely adjusts param names, capitalization, and use of blank space to your preferred way of doing things. It was all perfectly valid and correct before, and none of the changes in that edit were an improvement to the article. They also contraveled some guidelines concerning the use of citation style. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 16:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Apparently wrong duplication #1: one === External links === under == See also == (should not contain external links) ; meanwhile down under another == External links == exists at its correct position.
 * Apparently wrong duplication #2: under == Notes == there are notelist and also reflist|group=note, so I made them into an clear one NoteFoot which is in effect Reflist|group=note
 * Other citation fixes you did not care/notice: eg, pages to page for single pages, date to year for years, and translator-last and translator first for translators.
 * cite is a verb. Why sometimes cite book sometimes Cite book? Good coding style, including proper spacing please.
 * So if you do not fix them, why stop others? -

--- 101.187.83.6 (talk) 17:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Please learn how the templates work. There is no need to change working citation params such as ‘pages’ to ‘page’; they both render precisely the same on the visible page. If it says ‘pgae’ then it will not work and it would be right to fix it.
 * Please do not change a working ‘translator’ param to ‘-first’ and ‘-last’; this is an editor choice, just like the choice of ‘author’ or ‘last’ and ‘’first’. Please do not make useless white space changes to please yourself when the citations are already working and consistent. Please do not uselessly change the capitalization of templates. This is a volunteer project, and some people may do it one way and some the other, or they may be using assisted editing tools such as huggle, twinkle, awb, or others that may leave the capitalization or white space differently.
 * The &lt;ref> tag is a perfectly valid way of creating a note, and far from the only one. Please don’t change them to or  just because that is your preference, or because it seems more logical to you that way.  (By the way, I happen to agree with your preference: I always use  when possible; but I don’t “correct” someone who uses another method.)
 * When you make a change like the ones you did and are reverted, do not start an edit war by reverting back like you did; instead, take up the issue on the article talk page. See WP:BRD for guidance.
 * But most of all, Wikipedia is a collaborative project that works by consensus. If you simply go out there insisting on your own way, you will inevitably come into conflict with editors on some issue or other, and it won’t always be as inconsequential as insisting on your own preference for white space usage and capitalization in templates. And then, you may run into trouble.  I wish you all the best in your editing career at Wikipedia. Mathglot (talk) 05:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Actually, I changed translators at "author and "others" to tranlator-last/first. It is just to properly use the template. I have no hope in Wikipedia but randomly fix illogical and ugly stuff. Goodbye. :) 101.187.83.6 (talk) 18:35, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Violet
I reverted your recent edits at Violet (color). There were pointless changes, adding white space in places you seem to like to have white space in the wikicode, even though it renders no differently on the rendered article page, and doesn't make the wikicode easier to read either. Compounded by invalid removal of subsection headers at lower levels, as in this case, and changing them to semicolon-definition style. Don't do this. At the very least, if you think there's some crying need for this sort of thing, go to the article Talk page first, and try to get consensus for the changes you want to make. Thanks Mathglot (talk) 06:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Anti-Secession Law
Please don't make pointless changes like adding or subtracting hyphens to already working citation template params like  to , or vice versa, just because you like one version better than the other, like you did at this edit at Anti-Secession Law. This does not improve the article in any way, and gives the impression that your preference counts more than other editors', who may already have a long-standing WP:EDITCONSENSUS on the page. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Mathglot (talk) 06:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

And more
I just reverted your changes of the same, pointless type at Trolleybuses in Darlington; this one in your specialty of changing sections named "Notes" to "References", or vice versa. Just leave it alone, this doesn't help the article, or the encyclopedia, in any way, and can make it worse, if you're not careful. I'm not going to bother to keep notifying you every time I revert you because of this stuff. But you should be aware, that at some point, this may become disruptive, and if and when other editors notice the same thing, one of them may take you to the Admnistrator's noticeboard, and seek to have you warned by an admin, or even have your editing privileges temporarily suspended. If you want to avoid that, then please keep your eye on the prize, which is that every edit to Wikipedia should improve the article in some way, and not just enforce your personal preferences. Thanks, and good luck, Mathglot (talk) 06:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Queensland Day
So you finally hit a case where your pointless Section title changes in the area of 'Sources', 'Notes', and 'References' wasn't only not an improvement, but it also broke something, namely required attribution; as Kerry Raymond pointed out to you in his revert of your two edits at Queensland Day. Mathglot (talk) 06:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss at Talk:Violet (color)
Your feedback is requested. Please join the discussion at Talk:Violet (color). Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 10:20, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Disruptive pattern of edits
It's not clear if you are using this IP anymore, so this post is mostly for the record, to unite your behavior pattern across multiple IP addresses. Please see this discussion at regarding your disruptive pattern of edits. Other IPs in this pattern include, , , and. If you continue this disruptive pattern, you may end up having your editing privileges restricted. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 18:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see you are back using this IP address again. Please see section(s) below. Mathglot (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * That was fast work, getting in a lot of changes today, before anyone noticed. Right up until they did, and you got blocked. But you manage to get in a pretty goodly number of article changes under the wire. Thanks to quick work from one alert editor (and an assist from a few more), changes were backed out from 22 articles. A few could not easily be reverted, due to subsequent edits. Mathglot (talk) 05:44, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Pointless changes to references
Please stop making pointless changes to citation parameters, such as adding or removing hyphens from valid param aliases, as you did here at People's Police of the People's Republic of China that have no effect on the rendered page, merely to suit yourself. This is a violation of WP:CITEVAR. Mathglot (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And here, at Battle command; reverted. Mathglot (talk) 01:38, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And here, at Vanderbilt University. This edit cannot easily be reverted, because of numerous subsequent edits. Mathglot (talk) 02:54, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Or here at Michael Hordern. Mathglot (talk) 02:57, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Six revisions at University of East Anglia removed. Mathglot (talk) 03:36, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Or these changes at Mysticism, which couldn't easily be reverted. Mathglot (talk) 03:39, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Reverted hyphenization and white space changes, at Borana calendar. Mathglot (talk) 03:58, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Five revisions at Kalokol Pillar Site reverted. Mathglot (talk) 04:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This edit at Australian Secret Intelligence Service. Mathglot (talk) 04:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Pointless changes to white space
Please stop making changes to white space that have no effect on the rendered page, such as spaces around section titles, as you did here at Battle command, merely to suit yourself. This is a violation of MOS:VAR. This change has been undone. Mathglot (talk) 01:26, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, your edits at Supreme People's Procuratorate have been undone for the same reason. Mathglot (talk) 01:51, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And reverted this change at Roderic D. M. Page, likewise. Mathglot (talk) 02:31, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ditto this edit at Texas A&M University. Mathglot (talk) 02:38, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Reverted this edit at Palo Alto. Mathglot (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * And this change at Battle of the Baggage; also this and this. All three reverted. Mathglot (talk) 03:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Five changes to Kaohsiung Rapid Transit reverted. Mathglot (talk) 03:26, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Title of the references and notes section
Editors are free to choose from various common terms for the section name of the references section. Please don't change the name of the section containing the references if the title is generally accepted and in common usage, such as "Notes" (and various other terms listed at MOS:NOTES) as you did at Jonathan Trumbull, merely to suit your own personal preference; especially if the section title has been that way for a long time. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:55, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Retaining existing style: refs, efns, and NoteTags
Please stop altering &lt;ref> tags and or other tags to efn or NoteTag merely to enforce your personal preference, as you have done in numerous edits, such as these. The choice of how to add explanatory notes that are not citations to sources is up to the editor, and governed by WP:CITEVAR and MOS:STYLERET. The Arbitration Committee has ruled numerous times that this is inappropriate. "'When either of two styles are [sic] acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change.' If you believe an alternative style would be more appropriate for a particular article, discuss this at the article's talk page or – if it raises an issue of more general application or with the MoS itself – at the MoS talk page." But you know this already. Please stop. Mathglot (talk) 17:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, please stop - they are just being reverted. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Updated list
For the record: at present, the list of users exhibiting substantially the same pattern of disruptive edits characterized by violations of MOS:VAR, WP:CITEVAR, MOS:SECTIONS, MOS:NOTES and other guidelines, includes:, , , , , , , , , , and. For details, see User talk:129.94.8.198. Mathglot (talk) 07:51, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

September 2020
Hello, I'm GorillaWarfare. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Ren Zhiqiang, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:40, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Continuing pattern of disruptive edits
I see that you are continuing your very rapid  at articles contrary to MOS:VAR, WP:CITEVAR, MOS:SECTIONS, MOS:NOTES, and other guidelines that you have been warned about before (here, here, here).

Looking exclusively at the edits you have made today (3 Nov. 2020), this includes pointless addition of white space around '==' delimiters, useless alteration of valid parameters ('accessdate', 'archiveurl', 'work') to other valid parameters, pointless addition of white space around equal signs within citation parameters, pointless changes to capitalization ('Cite web' to 'cite web'), arbitrary changes to reference section names (works, publications, sources) solely for your own preference, pointless changes of valid template references to aliases (reflist|group to notefoot), as typified in these changes of yours to Mike O'Callaghan–Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge and repeated in numerous other articles (all of the following were changes of your from 3 November 2020 containing one or more violations of the listed guides; non-exhaustive list):


 * Abbott Government
 * Andrew Dickson White
 * Androgyny
 * Arizona
 * Artist's proof
 * Arts and culture of Washington, D.C.
 * Assisted suicide
 * Bronze Star Medal
 * Chief of Army (Australia)
 * Craig Stockings
 * David Butler (general)
 * Demographics of Washington, D.C.
 * Donald Dunstan (governor)
 * First Lady
 * Gender neutrality
 * He Zizhen
 * Li Min (daughter of Mao Zedong)
 * Li Na (daughter of Mao Zedong)
 * Luminance
 * Mike O'Callaghan–Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge
 * Ministries of the People's Republic of China
 * Printmaking
 * Sandra Bem
 * Silver Star
 * Vernon Sturdee
 * Washington (state)

Some of these have been reverted by various editors, most have not. Your disruption is repeated, you have ignored numerous prior warnings. I will be asking for admin review. Mathglot (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Based on User talk:129.94.8.198, you are an obvious sock of User:Hopelesswiki:
 * I'll be opening an SPI. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Opened: here. Mathglot (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll be opening an SPI. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Opened: here. Mathglot (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Colwidth
Re: your recent edit to Oxygen therapy, edit summary: coldwidth deprecreted, responsive instead.

Can I make it clear that when colwidth is set a number of ems, it produces a responsive layout, and it is not a deprecated parameter. Values like 2 (i.e set 2 columns regardless of width) are deprecated, but over three years ago, I amended the code for Template:Reflist to transform those values into a responsive layout with a width of 25em or 30em, so it's no longer a problem.

I also suggest that when you see something like 32em, it's because an editor has taken the trouble to find a column width that works well on different sized screens for the references used. That means it is not the same as no colwidth parameter (current default 30em), which simply implies that nobody has yet optimised the column width for that article. Removing parameters close to 30em only has a single effect: that of wasting the time of the editor who has optimised the parameter. Please don't do it. --RexxS (talk) 20:12, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 year for persistently making disruptive edits. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by logging in.
 * , per a message on my Talk page by alert IP user 2600...0.7, the following two IPs look like additional socks of Hopelesswiki:
 * I've examined the pattern, and it's like a fingerprint that has a dozen matching features; there's no doubt that these two are Hopelesswiki, so kudos to IP 2600 for finding them. I've notified the two IPs via their respective Talk pages, and am working on undos/rollbacks. Mathglot (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also pinging User:Spinningspark, who has been involved with this long-term block-evading sock; see e.g., User talk:129.94.8.198. That block was for six months; GN's was for a year; if they are blocked again, I'm looking for a two-to-four year block this time for these two IPs, and for all known aliases of Hopelesswiki. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Am thinking that this IP Talk page is maybe not the right place for this conversation. Should I move it to User talk:Hopelesswiki, or to Sockpuppet investigations/Hopelesswiki? Also pinging User:Czar, who was involved with a previous SPI. Mathglot (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, the previous admins might respond to your ping at their discretion but to the question of how best to file, the route is to visit Sockpuppet investigations and follow "How to open an investigation", which will open a new section on the existing page, similar to the one I previously created. (not watching, please  if needed)  czar  02:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Am thinking that this IP Talk page is maybe not the right place for this conversation. Should I move it to User talk:Hopelesswiki, or to Sockpuppet investigations/Hopelesswiki? Also pinging User:Czar, who was involved with a previous SPI. Mathglot (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, the previous admins might respond to your ping at their discretion but to the question of how best to file, the route is to visit Sockpuppet investigations and follow "How to open an investigation", which will open a new section on the existing page, similar to the one I previously created. (not watching, please  if needed)  czar  02:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)