User talk:108.15.31.168

October 2022
Hello, I'm DrKay. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. DrKay (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Specifically regarding the "Wilhelmina of the Netherlands" page, I added, under the "In Popular Culture," the information "Queen Wilhelmina can also appear as the leader and government trait of the Netherlands in Hearts of Iron Four". Along with two reliable citations, one of which was news article about the announcement of a new HOI4 DLC (KEENGAMER), which included the relevant addition of Wilhelmina to the game. This article was not self published, but you removed it as a citation for it being a "self-published source such as web forums cannot be used as sources". The second citation (Dev Diary - Je Maintiendrai) was admittedly self-published, however in the "referencing for beginners" page that you forwarded me it states "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities", which applies in this case. The article was published on Paradox Forums which is directly owned and operated by the same company (Paradox Interactive) that owns HOI4, the relevant game in question. The article was made by an individual named Bratyn who is marked on the site as "Paradox Staff" & "Content Design Lead", thus making him a credible author for this source. The page you forwarded me later states the requirements for a self-published article to meet as follows "
 * the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;
 * it does not involve claims about third parties;
 * it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
 * there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and
 * the article is not based primarily on such sources"
 * It is not an exceptional claim, as its perfectly reasonable for a history game (HOI4) to claim to add historic figures (Wilhelmina) to said game. The article does not involve any third parties as again, the article was made on a Paradox Site, by a Paradox Staff, about a Paradox Game. The article does not involve any claims about events not related to the source because the dev diary only entails updates made to related game. There is also no reasonable doubt regarding its authenticity, as the forum in question is the official site for all news and updates regarding the related game. The article is also not based on other "such sources" as the article is merely a summary of changes made to the game, and includes no other relevant sources or references.
 * In conclusion, I would ask that you please stop removing this piece of information, as I have added multiple varied and reliable sources that cite Wilhelmina as being added to the game. DeuxiemeDeui (talk) 07:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. DrKay (talk) 07:51, 29 October 2022 (UTC)