User talk:108.207.229.66

September 2020
Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Irin Carmon, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 00:35, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please do not add or change content, as you did at Irin Carmon, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 15:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Irin Carmon, you may be blocked from editing. Sundayclose (talk) 16:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Can you please explain where the Wikipedia rules require that wikifying an author's name or the title of their work requires a source? Specifically: Ricardo Piglia and Respiración artificial. I dispute your claim that wikification improvements can be considered disruptive editing. Take some time to cool off. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 17:11, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

The existing source for receiving "magna cum laude" honors is titled "Alumnae Profile: Irin Carmon Class of 2001". Please read the source which states verbatim "In 2005, Irin received her undergraduate degree in Comparative Literature from Harvard University, graduating magna cum laude". Correcting the degree to "Comparative Literature" requires no additional source. Threatening to edit block over sourced material highlights the many past issues others have posted on your talk page. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 17:27, 26 September 2020 (UTC)


 * First of all, thoroughly read WP:RS, and don't make any more edits until you do. Secondly, blogs are not reliable sources. Thirdly, the link in the citation is a dead link. Sundayclose (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

You are mistaken on the final two points and should undo your most recent revert. When did I ever use a blog as a source? The "Alumnae Profile" source was "Archived from the original" before your comment. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 17:48, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The article in the source is a personal reflection by the author, i.e., a blog. And when I made the revert the link was dead. And answer this question: Have you read every word of WP:RS? I suspect not; if you had, you would know that everything on Wikipedia must be sourced, and that IMDb is not a reliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 18:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I have indeed read every word of Wikipedia:Reliable sources along with Citing_IMDb, which states IMDb content regarding any potentially contentious material about living persons is inappropriate to reference on Wikipedia. My hopefully NPOV feels an author's date of birth is not contentious. What leads you to assert that "The News: The Waldorf School of Garden City." is a blog? Also, please note this source was added over a year ago by another Wikipedian. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you read WP:RS, then why did you make this unsourced edit? I'm afraid your knowledge of reliable sourcing is deficient, which is not unusual for people who have not edited very much. Almost all of IMDb is user generated content, which is not a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes. I've been around a while, and I've seen a lot of crap (including dates of birth) sourced to IMDb. As for whether something is "contentious", it becomes contentious when someone reverts it. And unlike wine, a source does not become better with age, so it really doesn't matter if an unreliable source was added today or ten years ago; it's still unreliable. Sundayclose (talk) 18:38, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

If you feel Carmon did not attend Harvard College and did not graduate in 2005 with a BA in Literature, magna cum laude due to your lack of faith in the source, I encourage you to remove the information and the source from her page. In the meantime, you have cited no evidence supporting your assertion about my lack of Wikipedia editing experience. You registered the alias Sundayclose because you "learned that IPs sometimes are treated as ignorant, second-class citizens by a few unwelcoming users". Because I have chosen to anonymously contribute from an IP, you are engaging in that same behavior. Take some time to cool off and reflect on your personal history. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 19:02, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not treating you like an ignorant second class citizen. I am simply asking you to reliably source your edits, and to make yourself familiar with the core Wikipedia policy of WP:RS. I tried to do that with a standard level one warning (which is really more of a notification than a warning), but you insisted on continuing to make improperly sourced edits and a lot of pushback about my request that you properly source your edits. If you want a verifiable edit history, you need to register an account just like the rest of us. It's free, and it takes less than a minute. If you edit from different IPs, then your edit history is only for your last IP, which goes all the way back to ... one day ago, with a grand total of article space edits of ... five, and a grand total of articles edited of ... one. I could edit from an IP and claim that I made the first edit on Wikipedia, but that doesn't make it true. As for your request that I revert something from the Carmon article, I have no obligation to revert anything. You, however, are required to properly source your edits and make yourself aware of WP:RS.
 * I've wasted enough time arguing with you, so I'll close by asking you again to follow Wikipedia policies, which starts with clicking all of the blue links above and reading. Have a good day. Sundayclose (talk) 19:12, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Your history of contributions is oxymoronic. In the last three hours of your life, you have not contributed to a single article, and have instead been reverting edits that did not live up to your objective interpretation of Wikipedia:Reliable sources. It is obviously impossible to please you. I hope you can learn to better relate to other Wikipedians. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 19:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've linked several basic policies that productive editors read and try to apply. When you link the policy (or even the guideline) that editors must make substantial edits every three hours, I'll apologize. But I'm not holding my breath. It's impossible to please me if the person I'm dealing with doesn't want to follow policies nor learn about them. But I have tremendous patience and tolerance for new editors who make that effort. I have related to decent editors for several years, get along with them quite well, and collaborate with them to improve Wikipedia. I recommend trying to do that. This is not a bad place to try to build a free encyclopedia if you are willing to learn and cooperate. I also urge you to register an account. Sundayclose (talk) 19:53, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I apologize for misunderstanding you. You said you would be "close"-ing your comments. I was naive to believe you would let someone have the last word on their own talk page. 108.207.229.66 (talk) 00:04, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I respond to false accusations. Sundayclose (talk) 00:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)