User talk:109.159.88.116

NSFW image in an inappropriate context
Hi there! My name's Tamzin. I'm afraid I had to revert your recent contributions to Serial comma. Wikipedia is not censored. While it would indeed be a problem to include that image on the serial comma article itself, we can't remove a link to a relevant article just because that article happens to contain a sexual image. As you say, it will only show up if people hover over the link, and most people hovering over it will be people who mean to hover over it. If you still disagree, you're welcome to raise your concerns on the article's talkpage. And if you're worried about hovering over links like this by accident in the future, you can either disable JavaScript when browsing Wikipedia or Create an account and disable popup previews in your settings. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out on my talk page, or by replying here with the template. Thanks. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 13:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no desire to censor Wikipedia; I am merely concerned with appropriateness. I would have no problem linking to the "dildo" page from a page that was about human sexuality. It is clearly off-topic and inappropriate in the context of English punctuation. I would not be willing to share a link to Serial comma with a colleague or family member while knowing that an accidental mouse hover would display a representation of an erect penis. 109.159.88.116 (talk) 13:22, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your concern, but our primary goal with any link is to help our readers navigate to relevant material, and linking dildo is part of that. The impact of the quasi-punchline "a demigod and a dildo collector" is lost if someone doesn't know what a dildo is. The quote is appropriate within the article. The link is appropriate within the quote. And the image only appears if someone hovers over that word. What you're suggesting would mean that no article about something other than human sexuality should ever link to an article about human sexuality, at least not if there are images in the latter article. That would fundamentally go against one of the oldest principles on Wikipedia, which is that we should build the web of links. We want people reading about one thing to find themselves reading about other thigns. That's what people love Wikipedia for. And human sexuality is not exempt from that.At the end of the day, Wikipedia is a website that contains images of sexuality and nudity, and it is never guaranteed here that, by doing something, you won't wind up seeing such an image. Every page has a link to Special:Random on it, and clicking that button has no small chance of taking someone to an article on human sexuality. Likewise, there's always a chance that some paths of clicks or hovers will take someone to an NSFW article. That's just part of how things go when you have a large reference work that includes such material uncensored.But that's just my opinion. Like I said, you're welcome to raise this matter at Talk:Serial comma. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 13:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I have no problem with the link and I agree with your reasoning that it is appropriate here. I take issue with the image being displayed in an inappropriate context. It would be useful if there were a way to link such that the image would not be displayed on hover. 109.159.88.116 (talk) 14:15, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah I see. Well, sadly, there's no way for us to control what image comes up. The previewing code pulls an image from the page, semi-at-random IIRC, and pops that up when you hover. It's a longstanding feature request to give editors control over what each article's "page image" is, which would let us systematically choose SFW page images where possible. While that functionality existing still wouldn't ensure that the commmunity chooses to use it the way you want—I could see controversy over an article with Dildo, where there's no reasonable SFW alternative—it would be the first step. There happens to be an ongoing discussion right now at Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Editing/Select preview image about making this a priority for the next year. You're welcome to join in the discussion if you'd like. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 14:23, 25 January 2022 (UTC)