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Is Port Macquarie a city?
On the basis of the official gazettal, it is not. (It appears only to be gazetted as a locality, which seems to understate it a bit!). But then that is not so surprising as all governments in Australia seem to be moving away from the language of "town", "city" (which once had precise definitions about population size etc) in favour of language like "urban areas". This is probably because of urban sprawl now amalgamating places that were previously geographically separate. While I appreciate that you added a couple of citations, both of them have problems. The 2016 one talks about a 20-year draft plan of the NSW Government in which Port Macquarie becomes a city. But this is what is called a crystal ball in Wikipedia-speak because it speculates about a future which may or may not actually come to pass. It is now 2019. Did this plan ever move from a draft plan to an actual plan? Is the plan being implemented? Has the point at which Port Macquarie becomes a city as part of the plan been reached? If Port Macquarie is a city, then surely there is a citation saying it *is* a city, not just that it's "going to be" at some unspecified future time. The second citation is about an alliance of regional councils where the term "regional city" is used but not in connection with any particular place. I don't disagree with you that Port Macquarie is an important regional centre; it seems so to me too. But in Wikipedia, we try to make our points with facts and data not just grandiose words. How many people live there? What industries/facilites/amenities does it have? Those kind of facts can persuade the reader that this is an important place without having to use ill-defined terms like "city". Does it have a major hospital? A stadium? A convention centre? university campus? or whatever else you might expect of a "city". Focus on improving the article to include all the relevant information that demonstrates why it is an important place. Kerry (talk) 13:13, 20 May 2019 (UTC)