User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4/Archive 2021

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Happy New Year! Hello 1234qwer1234qwer4: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, Nomentz (talk) 08:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

"Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Redirect pings
Seems you have been pinging me about Redirects for which I am not at all involved - it's *entirely* ok with me to stop the pingings - thank you - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 08:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought you might have been interested as the participant of a related discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 08:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Cricketer redirects
Thank you for delving into all of these - I appreciate the work it involves. Redirects to the lists where they exist are entirely appropriate in my book. Let me know if I can help in any way. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm almost done with them now – will do the last nominations tomorrow. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Page mover granted
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Thanks for the heads-up
on the redirection discussion. Very kind! Thmazing (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit requests
If you're answering edit requests, please remember to changed the  parameter in the template header to   to signify that the request is closed. Thanks! ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 01:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Page name move request
I found your last edit in the discussion page of Kanglei mythology. But still now, none is replying to my request discussion for page name move. Why is it so? Haoreima (talk) 10:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't say about other people, but I have not enough knowledge in the topic to participate in the discussion. Requested moves are open for at least a week anyway, so some interested users will probably find it soon. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

What will happen if none participate in the discussion, will the request be granted? I mean will the page name be moved? Haoreima (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The discussion might be relisted for another week, but otherwise the default result would probably be moving the page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:56, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
Thanks for helping with my image copyright licenses. Also I'm glad you like the template. Cheers, Giraffer (talk·contribs) 16:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

G13 on User:Maziyar Kamkar/sandbox
Hello 1234qwer1234qwer4 -- I've declined this because G13 is only applicable in userspace when the draft has been submitted to the WP:Articles for creation process. Generally, there's consensus that userspace material that isn't actively harmful should just be left alone. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @Espresso Addict Maybe I should have U5ed. The user is a cross-wiki spammer, see CentralAuth. I think I found the page because they published some spam page on another wiki. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit critique
Thanks for pointing out the ambiguous phrasing. Is this better? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ATwinkle&type=revision&diff=1010529272&oldid=1010486011 (Feel free to fix it further if you like.) DKEdwards (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "revert it [the content]" still seems a bit weird. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:34, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I'm not grasping the confusion. Is it the word "content" that sounds wrong?  Would it be better to say: "to improve the changes rather than revert them" DKEdwards (talk) 23:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @DKEdwards: To be honest, I'm not sure I understand "should not be used to undo changes that are constructive and made in good faith unless a reasonable attempt is made to improve the content" either. You are not supposed to revert constructive edits unless they improve content? As far as my remark is concerned, "reverting content" sounds not quite correct, but "improve changes" in your suggestion does not either. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ok, I think I see... The way the "unless" logic parsed was sort of an artifact of the original sentence that could be (mis)read to imply that an edit summary always justifies undoing constructive changes. So, instead of appending to the original phrasing I've just re-written my whole point now.  I didn't originally intend to add so much, but since it's become more substantial I've added a note to the Talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Abuse_section) and invited others to improve it. DKEdwards (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @DKEdwards Thanks, the new version looks good. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

User talk page redirects
I'm done with User:1234qwer1234qwer4/a subpage somewhere. Do you want me to delete it? -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Tavix Thanks a lot; I had just checked yesterday and saw there were still quite a few pages left. I think keeping the subpage is fine, it is mentioned in discussions and does not seem to do any harm. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! I got burned out on it much quicker than I thought I would, so tackled about a third of it each week. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Desk
I don't know what you were trying to do at WP:HD with all those edits dated 2014, but I've reverted them to avoid confusion. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:51, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @David Biddulph I just remembered about this. I had moved these from a redirect page, where they were erroneously placed instead of the actual help desk. I thought it was better if they were archived somewhere, but I guess deleting them was also fine. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  17:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Query
Hello, 1234qwer1234qwer4,

I'm just curious, there must be millions of abandoned Wikipedia accounts and user pages, how are you finding ones from 5 or 10 years ago that have been vandalized? You can't just be stumbling upon them. Do you do searches for "bad words"? Liz Read! Talk! 02:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Liz I used a SQL query that would return all user talk page between 1 and 15 bytes that have only one revision and that revision was not by the talk page owner: query/53219. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 07:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for March 16
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Draft Deletion
The draft creator is not edited the page after July 2020. How can I delete the entire page? ProudMallu ( 📨 │ 📝 )  12:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @ProudMallu You should have used WP:G13. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much!! ProudMallu ( 📨 │ 📝 )  12:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

JSESSIONID
Wait, you created that redirect; and then immediately listed it at RfD thinking it was the wrong destination? Could you just have avoided the pointless bureaucracy (WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY) and instead just WP:FIXEDIT? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @RandomCanadian The point was that already existed before and I created this one by analogy, realising just after that that the target was not optimal. Nominating both to RfD (no matter whether I retargeted my newly created one or not) would guarantee that they both targeted the same page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

ISO 11940
The feature I corrected was the use of U+031B COMBINING HORN in the transliteration of three consonants. It's somewhat unusual, but it's what the standard says. (I bought a copy.) Given the history of formal transliteration of Thai, it's not entirely weird. In the RTGS, a couple of vowels were originally transliterated with that Vietnamese diacritic. RichardW57m (talk) 13:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @RichardW57m Thanks. I apologise for my confusion; understanding the context for a two-year old edit of yourself is not always easy. After reading parts of the article and looking at some of the sources, I realised I used a different version of the standard – I explained it on your talk page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a shame Virginmedia took down its customers' home pages. I've updated the links in the talk page to the extract from the standard. RichardW57 (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * any comments? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Justice S Rajeswaran Page
Thanks for the valuable suggestions. Will note the same. there will be no mistakes. --A.R.V. Ravi (talk) 07:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Molecular formula
Hello. The moving of Template:R from molecular formula is closed - so I'm writing here.. It was a mistake. I always confuse empirical formula with molecular formula. And I looked it up (Molecular formula, but didn't read the full sentence "They are the same as empirical formulae [...]". Christian75 (talk) 00:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Incertae sedis
Hi, I see that we both started making speedy nominations for the same tree. I will let you finish them.

The top Category:Incertae sedis may need a full nomination at the end, as C2C would go against C2D.

By the way, when you make multiple nominations for a full CFD, please remember to check the links from the category pages back to the discussion. When you nominated e.g., you did not complete the extra parameter to link to the section heading. See Cfr for instructions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london Are there any more left though? I had looked through the tree and found the one I nominated to be the only one that did not have the banner. Yes, I did see the problem with the main category as well. Regarding the Cfr template, I think it would be nice if Twinkle automatically added anchors to nominations to facilitate merging them (as it already does with RfD), and I will propose this change at WT:TW. Until then, I will add anchors on the log pages manually. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are some more arthropods and vertebrates to be nominated. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london I started nominating them, but I realised there might be additional C2C issues. For example, is currently using "Reptilia" to have the complete name in Latin, but should probably be renamed to "Reptile enigmatic taxa" rather than "Reptilia enigmatic taxa". Similar considerations apply to already nominated categories. What do you think? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, please use the common names. Which of the categories already nominated at WP:CFDS need retargeting, and to what?  Ascomycota to Ascomycete?? – I see that Category:Ascomycota consistently uses "Ascomycota". – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london vs,  vs , some more in the ones not yet nominated. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, perhaps you meant using singulars e.g. Fungi -> Fungus, Algae -> Alga. Should Category:Fungi taxonomy use "Fungus" rather than "Fungi"? – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:52, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london Possibly; we don't use "Animals taxonomy either" (though in your cases, the vernacular names seem to be fully identical to the systematic ones). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Cheers. I changed the nomination from Fungi to Fungus, and nominated its parent & sibling too. "Algae", however, is used consistently. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:59, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london I realise now that I forgot to fix my nomination, so we have and  instead of  and  per their parent categories. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well, I didn't know those words with either ending! I suggest you take them back to WP:CFDS, if you think that would be an improvement. It's not quite a case of C2E or obvious correction, which I would have implemented immediately. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I had mentioned them above in my message from 16:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC). These are not a C2E but C2C cases though, see above. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:13, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Prehistoric animal genera enigmatic taxa
Hi, I noticed some "incertae sedis" categories were recently renamed to use "enigmata taxa", and you've personally been at CfD/Speedy to rename some others to match. Unfortunately I think Category:Prehistoric animal genera enigmatic taxa in particular might need a second rename, since the structure of the name seems rather weird-looking (at least to me as a native English speaker): it's going adjective adjective noun adjective noun. Not sure if there's any other category names like this one, I haven't looked very thoroughly yet. Unfortunately I'm not sure what to suggest as a replacement name yet either. Monster Iestyn (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Monster Iestyn Thanks, I had noticed this and found it awkward as well but did not get to react. I think this was the only case with a problem like that though. Pinging @Fayenatic london, who nominated this specific category. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:51, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I notice nothing at all has happened about this problematic category in the three months since I first brought it up. Try again with pinging Fayenatic london? Or try something else? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe just nominate the category to WP:CfD again? (I recommend using WP:Twinkle.) User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  19:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, just enabled Twinkle in my preferences ready to do that. I'm occupied elsewhere at the moment though (mostly at Wikispecies), so maybe later. Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Monster Iestyn Feel free to leave a comment at Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 13. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  23:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

weird revert
Regarding. No, not a bug. Quite deliberate. I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that it needed to be reverted, but you might try asking before reverting a legitimate talk page post next time. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

My bad. Forget it. I need coffee. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Your signature
Did you know… that your signature, using non-standard characters, appears as a line of 17 boxes on mobile devices? – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:48, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "mobile devices" is definitely a sloppy generalisation (my phone displays them), and some PCs might lack necessary fonts as well, but I heard at least one other report like this. Is this bad? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK then… iOS devices! – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I do have one. Though, I might have installed a font that displays my signature, as I used an app for installing fonts. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not ideal, but it's pretty common on Twitter as well. If your sig can be read on all desktop computers and other mobile OSs, that's probably OK – given that when we edit the page, we can all see the Latin characters in your actual user name. IMHO it would be nice to choose characters that are universally legible… but don't lose sleep over it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london Aand fixed. :^) User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  14:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

"Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 20 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Fairfield
Maybe you could dump this draft as I won’t proceed with the article. Thanks SproulesLane (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Local 58
Please do not edit war, I'm well aware of the policies you mentioned. Episode lists are accepted parts of TV articles as per WP:MOSTV and they do not have to be sourced to secondary sources. Agree that the descriptions need trimming but drive-by removal is not helpful, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Atlantic306 Thanks. My edit was probably an overkill indeed. For now, I removed some excessive quoting and tagged the page with Long plot to have some other editors take a look. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  08:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for improving the article, I agree with the tag, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments at SPI
Hi - just a quick note about the placement of comments at SPI. Sorry to be a pedant about this, but we're encouraged to enforce these rules strictly - they're not like normal threaded discussions. Only admins and SPI clerks handling the case are supposed to post in the bottom section; comments from other users go in the 'other users' section. If I was commenting to provide extra evidence, I'd post in the 'other users' section, but as the admin/clerk handling the case, my comments (including any responses to questions in the other section) go at the bottom. I recognise that you're a very experienced user, and I don't mean to imply any disrespect when I moved your comments, but unless you think I am mistaken in my understanding of how SPI pages should be maintained and archived, please don't move any of the comments again. Thanks Girth Summit  (blether)  10:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Freedom of alphabets
You have set a filter for this phrase at some wikis. I recommend you set also I Chose Freedom filter, and every single letter filterLOL

195.114.146.147 (talk) 06:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * For refernce, this is a long-term abuser from the Ukrainian Wikipedia. Global blocks requested. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  09:37, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Freedom of alphabets abuses Russian bots Ratiotaine (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Request global block for all the alphabets too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratiotaine (talk • contribs) 18:18, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Antiphantes
Hello, 1234qwer1234qwer4,

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Meatsgains (talk) 00:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Meatsgains I'm pretty sure I had created a redirect. @Liz: Could you please look into the deleted page history? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  10:57, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The page was completely blank. Must have been done incorrectly - its now deleted. Meatsgains (talk) 22:43, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Meatsgains Well, duh, I somehow managed to find out that it is deleted now already. Anyway, I suggest looking into page histories before speedying in the future – the API clearly shows that my very first edit to the page was a redirect creation, after which I apparently blanked it on accident. I will request undeletion now. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  09:07, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

FYI update
Hi 1234qwer1234qwer4 – FYI, following the closure of Sockpuppet investigations/Mumasah, one of the users was glocked; therefore I filed m:Special:Diff/21691894. KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 21:13, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @L235 Wait, so brothers or not? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  21:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Eh, it doesn't matter anymore; they're connected, and now that one of them is locked, they'll both need to be per WP:MEAT (A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining.). Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 21:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @L235 Okay, thanks. By the way, looking at the edit you linked at the SPI (special:Diff/1029640263), it seems more like they are the same person: if "Mumasah" has the nickname "Hatchham" given by their brother, that brother can't be any of these? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  21:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's probable. They'll all be locked in any event now. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 21:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, at least the backlog is smaller than it was recently there, so might even be done relatively soon. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  21:56, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @L235 Thoughts on tagging and ? There is currently one userpage in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mumasah.  User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  10:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Unified Turkic Alphabet-2020
latin, runic: http://crh2.ugu.pl/runes.html arabic: http://crh2.ugu.pl/turk-arab.html cyrillic: http://crh2.ugu.pl/tatar_cyr.html transliteration: http://crh2.ugu.pl/trans.html 195.114.145.11 (talk) 06:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Core Crimean Tatar lexicon
https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=51457

Crimean Tatar dictionary
http://crh2.ugu.pl

Ratiotaine (talk) 18:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Reported at SRG as well, for the record. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  18:18, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Reporting means that you a priori are a good guy?) "I am just obeyed the orders!"(c) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratiotaine (talk • contribs) 19:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

"Arnaldo Jose Hernández" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Arnaldo Jose Hernández. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 3 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hog Farm Talk 05:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

"Arnaldo Jose Hernandez" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Arnaldo Jose Hernandez. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 3 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hog Farm Talk 05:14, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Signpost interview
Hi 1234qwer1234qwer4, hope that you're well. I was wondering if you'd be able to participate in a Signpost interview in your capacity as a member of WikiProject Redirect? I am enthusiastic about these interviews because they help remind other Wikipedians about the passionate and diverse group of volunteers that edit Wikipedia, and into the many discussions and editors that inhabit our space, nooks and crannies. If you had time to even answer a few questions here (User:Tom (LT)/sandbox/WikiProject redirects interview draft) I'd be very grateful :). Tom (LT) (talk) 01:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, don't currently have a lot of time on my hands but will take a look in the next few days if it doesn't hurry. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  08:41, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Tom (LT) (talk) 01:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Tom (LT) Largely done, though I will likely do some more copyediting and elaborate on some points I made. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  22:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Tom (LT) (talk) 05:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Tom (LT), do you have any updates on when you are planning to publish the interview? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  11:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hopefully this month. The redirects crowd has been a tough cell to penetrate to participate in the interview! Tom (LT) (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject
Hi, would you be interested in joining WikiProject Council/Proposals/IBM (2nd nomination)? If so, please add your username to the list PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for tagging the categories in my nomination
Hello, thank you very much for tagging these 28 categories. I did not know how to do it, but will check out how for a next time. This was my first trip to XFD (XFX?) and I am still learning how to navigate this territory :) Best, Mvbaron (talk) 10:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the input...
...the draft of the proposal is at User:Cabayi/Global Admin View if you'd care to give an opinion. Minorax has already pointed me at a Commons-centric proposal from several years ago from which I need to incorporate some details. Cabayi (talk) 15:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Cabayi Looks interesting, thanks. Note that there already is a staff user group called WMF Researchers with similar privileges. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  15:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

WP:UAA reports on users with no edits
Generally, there is no reason to report usernames with no edits whatsoever. Per WP:UAAI: "Wait until the user edits. Do not report a user that hasn't edited unless they are clearly a vandal. We do not want to welcome productive editors with a report at UAA, nor do we want to waste our time dealing with accounts that may never be used." The exceptions are obvious hate speech or names that attack a living person/Wikipedia editor, those are blockable even without any edits, but other run-of-the-mill violations such as names of organizations or products need not be reported unless and until they at least attempt to edit, and you should be able to clearly explain what the problem is if it is not immediately evident.

For whatever reason, every day dozens, if not hundreds of accounts are created that never make one single edit. It is our responsibility as admins to conscientiously review every report a user makes at UAA, so we have to check for contribs, deleted contribs, and tripping of the edit filter for every one of these reports, only to find out there's nothing there and therefore no problem to be solved. That's time that could be spent doing more productive things, but you basically obligate admins to do it by making such reports. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Beeblebrox Thanks. I figured the two COVID-related usernames might be one of the common LTAs like MRY and similar (thus "clearly a vandal"), but whatever. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  20:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * (Courtesy ping @MusikAnimal, whose global filter caught these usernames.) User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's entirely possible, but UAA is only for issues with actual username itself. It's basically a place for obvious cases only, you shouldn't expect admins reviewing reports there to know the ins and outs of specific LTA cases, for example I personally have no idea who "MRY" is referring to. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

finding errors
ta, thanks for that - the likelihood of mistakes is high simply statistically from the number of edits in trying to get neglected areas done - will fix when I come across them, cheers JarrahTree 10:21, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, was just making sure this wasn't an error in automatic replacement. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  12:13, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

A bahnstar for you!

 * Not fair, I was going to do this but you beat me to it! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:07, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and thanks for creating a template for it!  User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  09:50, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Redirect printability
Just fyi, no big deal, we notice at the redirect that you recently tagged it with R from stylization, which automatically sorts redirects to the  category. That redirect was already tagged with R from other capitalisation, which automatically sorts redirects to the category. So the redirect was then sorted to both printability categories. As you might guess, that can be confusing, so it's been fixed. Please check for this sort of thing in the future, and thank you beyond words for your help with R categorization!  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 07:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Paine Ellsworth Ah, thanks, I didn't think about the printworthiness the templates add. I'd lean towards tagging a redirect from other capitalisation as unprintworthy though, regardless of it being a stylisation or not. Also, there are some 66 more redirects with both of the two (mutually exclusive) printworthiness categories that are tagged as stylisations and other capitalisations at once. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  19:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually there are more than that, since there are other types of redirects that sometimes get mistagged with both P and UP. I tend to agree that these should be unprintworthy, too. I've made the changes and will begin working on that list. Thanks again!  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 19:43, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I know there are thousands of cases where the printworthy and unprintworthy categories intersect; I just wanted to focus specifically on this case while we were discussing it already. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  19:47, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Paine Ellsworth I just noticed that it might make sense to add a similar printworthiness param to R from chemical formula, for cases like and .  User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  12:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually that type of error should not be sorted to the chem. formula category, because there is no chem. formula spelled like that. Just R from misspelling with the correct spelling in the first parameter and the R unprintworthy rcat template are all that's needed. Since all redirects from chem. formulas are printworthy, there is no need to alter that rcat template.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 19:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  13:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Selective androgen receptor degraders
I think your CFDS request here has gone awry.—Ketil Trout (&lt;&gt;&lt;!) 21:15, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * @Ketiltrout Possibly, but C2F is a deletion criterion so it is weird that Twinkle still requires a "target title". User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  21:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ~That was overlooked and processed at WP:CFDW to Category:(Twinkle requires this field)! I resolved the outcome, but please raise this at WT:TW requesting a more secure prevention, e.g. (i) that Twinkle must use cfm-speedy not cfr-speedy for C2F, and (ii) that the target must exist. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how actively maintained Twinkle currently is (and multiple reports of mine have been archived without any action), but I might do this later on. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  22:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)