User talk:130.193.246.139

July 2019
Hello, I'm Railfan23. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Stoke City F.C. have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. Railfan23 (talk) 18:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Stoke City F.C.. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Railfan23 (talk) 18:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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I think you'll find that all the references and sources have already been noted in other parts of the article, if you had checked this instead of being to busy looking at random pages looking for people making changes and accusing them of vandalism (as clearly you have nothing better to do than forcing your self imposed authority on everyone) you might have seen that. Please cancel the revert as the changes were correct and does not detract the truth or events. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.193.246.139 (talk • contribs)
 * No, you introduced factual errors which were not supported by the sources in the article. In fact, your edits were directly contradicted by the sources in the article. Please go read the article talk page to see the discussion that led to the stable consensus we formed. Do not continue to vandalize the Stoke City F.C. article. Thanks, Railfan23 (talk) 18:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I think you'll find most of them are directly from stoke city themselves but there are a few in there from other sources that state otherwise. This isn't the first time someone has tried to edit this factually. If you research the subject you will find the the Football league commissioned their own and independent historians to discover the truth over this claim and all came back stating this claim is false and they were established in 1868. Under your theory of claiming sources, i could write an article stating my argument and then reference that as fact whether true or not. All the references that state this as truth come from the club itself only, and doesn't change the fact the the Football League has officially published their findings and in a league statement said that is untrue. They also said any claims of Stoke City being the oldest Football League Club is also untrue and that title lies with their neighbors down the road, at Nottingham Forest.