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Someone using this IP address,, removed content without giving an explanation. Please always provide an informative edit summary when removing content from pages. If is a shared IP address and you did not do this, you may wish to consider [ getting a username] to avoid confusion with other editors and further irrelevant notices.

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Dewpoint figures
Hello. You added dewpoint figures to many articles about Australian places. All your changes has been reverted. Dewpoint figures are redundant data, very rarely used, most Wikipedia users and readers don't even know what's it. Your data in Climate of Sydney has been saved, because this is a climate article and this is the place for such detailed data. The main articles about localities are not a place for too detailed climatic data. Subtropical -man ( ✉  | en-2 ) 14:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Your description of the changes does not matter. here is a lot of data in the source, it doesn't mean that all of them have to be entered into the table in Wikipedia. Subtropical -man ( ✉  | en-2 ) 14:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * But they exist as a reading on Wikipedia. They are accepted. Who says "readers don't know what it is"? Please, just leave them for now and we'll see how things will go. I know many people who understand dewpoints. In fact, those who know about weather, know about dewpoints. Reverting all my edits is a bit harsh as I spent hours adding them, don't you think? You could just tell me to stop and see how things will go from now. - User, 14:12 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. Most people don't know it. Wikipedia is not a meteorological portal. Your data has been saved ONLY in articles about climate, for example: Climate of Sydney etc. The main articles about localities/cities are not a place for too detailed climatic data.
 * I'm so sorry that you spent a lot of time adding them :( however, you made the mistake, you could enter into the first 8 articles and wait a few days for other users to react.
 * Also, please read Wikipedia:CYCLE. If anyone has doubts about your changes and reverted your changes, to new changes must to be discuss cycyle and consensus per Wikipedia:Consensus. Subtropical -man  ( ✉  | en-2 ) 14:19, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. I won't revert your edits. I have no time for that now. But I just strongly disagree with your choice and your argument. Wikipedia is not a meteorological portal ONLY when it comes to dewpoints? Don't you think that's a bit absurd and biased? So you accept sunshine hours, relative humidity, sea temperature, highest daily rainfall and UV rays, among other figures, but all of a sudden it's not a meteorological portal just for dewpoint figures? They're the most common readings in weather news. Most people know about them (and you can argue otherwise all you like). Even sunshine hours are not forecast or displayed on weather news websites, and people have no idea about sunshine hour numbers as well (but I digress). Besides, I was only adding my dewpoint figures for a number of Australian cities. I wasn't going 'overseas' with it and adding them for US or European cities. Again, you should've just accepted these edits. For your compromise, I would've stopped. And we'd see how things would go. - User:14.200.14.51, 14:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For years, there has been a Wikipedia:Stable version for other data like sea temperature, sunshine hours, relative humidity for articles about places. For dewpoints is not. There was not even a discussion about it. Besides, the weather templates are too big anyway, we have to give up something... and adding new data like dewpoints are absurd in this situation. There are separate pages (for example Climate of Sydney, Climate of Melbourne, Climate of Brisbane, Climate of Perth, Climate of Adelaide, Climate of Launceston, Tasmania), for more detailed climatic data like dewpoints, wind etc. Subtropical -man  ( ✉  | en-2 ) 14:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll transfer the dewpoint figures to the climate tables on those pages. - User:14.200.14.51, 01:00, 29 July 2020 (UTC)