User talk:144.206.7.196

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello 144.206.7.196! Your additions to Pentafluoroethane have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


 * You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
 * We have strict guidelines on the usage of copyrighted images. Fair use images must meet all ten of the non-free content criteria in order to be used in articles, or they will be deleted. To be used on Wikipedia, all other images must be made available under a free and open copyright license that allows commercial and derivative reuse.
 * If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into either the public domain (PD) or under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. Such a release must be done in a verifiable manner, so that the authority of the person purporting to release the copyright is evidenced. See Donating copyrighted materials.
 * Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Politanvm talk 14:32, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Pentafluoroethane. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Politanvm talk 12:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)


 * 144.206.7.196

Good. Let's discuss the link. Why do you think a link to material belonging to "The Oxford University Physical and Theoretical Chemistry Laboratory", not only outdated, but also containing incorrect and incomplete information, is better than a link to a document, that complies with current US legislation, posted outside the manufacturer's official website? Do you understand that the placement of incomplete and inaccurate information leads to the death of people or the infliction of irreparable injury? Are you ready to take responsibility for the fact that in the event of a person receiving chemical injury, the doctor will not be able to quickly find the information necessary to provide adequate medical care? Try to bring your version of the link to an adequate document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.206.7.196 (talk • contribs) 144.206.7.196 (talk) 14:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for replying and welcome to Wikipedia. That article definitely needs some work, since the References section is full of commercial links, and the EPA link is broken. I removed the link because it didn’t seem helpful to link to a commercial site over a university site. People often use Wikipedia to spam their company’s website.
 * Is there a more recent reliable source for safety information about Pentafluoroethane?
 * Also, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. If a doctor is coming to Wikipedia for medical advice, the patient is probably already doomed. Also, please indent your posts with : and sign them with ~. Best, Politanvm talk 13:42, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * 144.206.7.196

Please tell me how many US residents must die for important information to finally become publicly available? I am not against editing grammar, terminology correction, but I consider simple deletion to be overkill. Sorry, but so far I have not seen your constructive suggestions either on the links or on the latest version of the text. Instead of deleting, I ask you to provide similar materials suitable for publication. The safety certification system is too often closed on research laboratories affiliated with research funding manufacturers. The number of independent laboratories is extremely small. In addition, the placement of articles in specialized journals leads to an overload of terms and phrases that are incomprehensible to ordinary people. Also in this case we are dealing with the copyright of the publisher. Again a dead end. For chemicals, almost all information comes down to MSDS and articles in special literature, to which there is limited access. So how are we going to get out of the situation? "Delete cannot be placed!" - where do we put the comma ??? Try talking to toxicologists and emergency doctors, firefighters and police - anyone trained in first aid - "what do you know about Hydrofluorocarbons and pentafluoroethane in particular?" "What are the signs of defeat and how to provide first aid correctly?" 144.206.7.196 (talk) 14:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, first, please keep in mind that Wikipedia isn’t saving lives - it’s a free encyclopedia for anyone to read. There is no deadline to get this article to a good state. Second, verifiability is one of Wikipedia’s core policies, so any content on Wikipedia must be cited to a reliable source. The issue isn’t grammar and copy editing, but rather lack of reliable sourcing and using Wikipedia for something it isn’t (an instruction manual).
 * For medical information, there is a higher level of required sourcing (WP:MEDRS). I, unfortunately, am not a medical expert, so I don’t typically edit medical topics. Maybe one place to look for sources would be PubChem - either citing directly or from one of their information sources. Again, I’m not familiar with all of the intricacies and issues with access to medical information, but in any case, Wikipedia isn’t the place to right great wrongs.
 * As a note, you can cite a non-public journal. You just need to summarize and paraphrase to avoid copyright infringement.
 * It might be helpful to walk through Help:Introduction. Wikipedia has far too many policies and guidelines for one person to memorize, but that walkthrough covers the high-level policies and mission of Wikipedia. Best, Politanvm talk 14:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)