User talk:146.201.53.80

May 2024
Hello, I'm MuffinHunter0. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions&#32;to FSU Flying High Circus have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Muffin(Spreading Democracy, one edit at a time) 18:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi - I am the Associate Creative Director with the FSU Circus and have been updating the post to more accurately reflect our program. I am unsure of who created the original language on the FSU Circus wiki page, but it is very important to us that we be able to make edits as necessary. 146.201.53.80 (talk) 20:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello 146.201.53.80. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:146.201.53.80. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

It's easier to disclose if you have an account, but even if you choose not to create an account, you must disclose. Note that the Wikipedia article about your circus is not a place for it to tell the world about itself(as opposed to a "page" owned and controlled by the circus/university). It is for summarizing what independent reliable sources choose to say about it. If there are errors in the article, we want to know what those are, please see the edit request process for instructions as to how to request errors be corrected. You shouldn't directly edit the article due to the conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you want. The FSU Flying High Circus is a non profit organization and part of a public university. All of the language I am using is to update the information to accurately reflect our organization. I am a staff member here and have a through understanding of the program, and the language that we use.
 * We do not offer a class through Sports Management anymore.
 * We do not describe ourselves as one of two Us circuses. Look at the Gamma Phi page. They do not use this language, why are you forcing it on us.
 * We do not have a summer program at Callaway Gardens anymore.
 * We do not perform at weddings.
 * Your comments do not make any sense. How is what I am updating in an effort for persornal financial gain? 146.201.53.80 (talk) 20:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you please allow me to make the edits and if there is some language in particular that you thing presents a conflict consider it as single comment?
 * I took a long time to make these edits and am beyond upset that they are just being removed.
 * The logo is an old logo. The photos is from over 15 years ago.
 * How am I supposed to update the listing if you keep undoing everything? 146.201.53.80 (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I also do not understand how being a member of thhe staff creates a problem. How is the information supposed to be up to date if you do not trust the people who are in charge of the operation to tell you what is actually happening.
 * Also AGAIN - HOW IS THE INFORMATION I EDITED A PROBLEM? The actual words I am using? How are those a problem? You don't seem to care about what the truth is. 146.201.53.80 (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The article is not a "listing" for the subject to update without input from others. This is an encyclopedia, not a place for organization to tell about themselves. Wikipedia articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the subject in any way. The main purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources say about the subject, not what it wants to say about itself.  Primary sources are only acceptable in certain situations.
 * Please read the conflict of interest policy. The main reason we don't want the subject to directly edit about themselves is to ensure a neutral point of view and maintain the integrity of this global resource.
 * You say you are the Associate Creative Director- if you get a salary for this role, or other form of compensation, you are a paid editor. As such, the Wikipedia Terms of Use require you to formally disclose that fact.  As I indicated, this is easier to do with an account, but even if you don't wish to create an account, you must make this disclosure.  Please read the paid editing policy.
 * If there are errors in the article about your circus, we want to know what those are, but this must be done in the proper manner. You should not make these edits directly, but you may propose them as formal edit requests(click for instructions) on the article talk page(Talk:FSU Flying High Circus) so that independent editors can review them and, if appropriate, make the edit.
 * If your edits are removed, you should not restore them. Doing so to enforce your preferred version of an article is called "edit warring" which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Once it is known your edits are in dispute, you should discuss them on the article talk page.
 * As for what is wrong with your edits, they read like a marketing brochure and are only sourced to your circus' website. I am sorry you are upset, no one is intending to make you upset, but we have policies and practices here for a reason; we want to help you know what those are so you can effectively participate here. 331dot (talk) 23:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)