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AfD nomination of Saratlas
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 * Good sources provided for relation but argument regarding 'House of Cramm' is reasonable. The question was regarding where the lines for dates is drawn as they entered England as Von Cramms and left as Crams due to the English reformation the coming revolution etc. and nobility is not official in Germany now for sometime while the 18th century codifications which are still honored.  The lines of cultural continuity from Germany to England via the Netherlands and then to America are striking particularly the involvement with politics and the church at the highest or nearly highest levels over such a long period despite geographic and political differences -particularly now when the Western tradition appears to be under threat 2600:1700:F860:2290:78E4:9761:2A4E:8082 (talk) 17:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)