User talk:161.167.234.60

June 2022
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 * Wikipedia is not Persians' property and not a place for fascism. it's an online Encyclopedia for every body not just for Persian. You're a Persian and try to change the fact based on your wishes. Dinawari is Kurdish and Wikipedia should not allow fascists to be able to edit freely. You must be warned of disturbance and ignoring the facts and resources not me. 161.167.234.60 (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

I added new resources which are not less valuable than the other available ones. It's a fact that Kurdish history is dismissed and we hope Wikipedia is a place for truth based on facts and resources not politics and power of group of people. Dinawar is/was a region in Kudistan. Al-Dinwari has a publication named as "Ancestry of the Kurds" not the Persians or other people in the region. His grand-father's name is Kurdish! and also his expertise was in plant and botany! which matches perfectly with the Kurdistan climate and tremendous variety of Kurdistan which are rare in Persian cities such as Yazd, Isfahan, Kerman and even Shiraz! All these facts tell he is a Kurdish scientist but ignoring all is not only scientific, which is against Wikipedia aims, but also ignorant and shows bias in the editor's mind. Wikipedia MUST stop any editor to abuse their power because they have edited more articles then they have the final words! It must be based on facts. Bring just one fact that he was Persian at all, beside personal interest, which is not scientific


 * "I added new resources which are not less valuable than the other available ones."
 * Nope. Kurdistani.org is not WP:RS and Britannica online is barely so. Funnily enough, "Britannica calls him Persian or Kurdish". "en-academic.com" is a Wikipedia mirror and thus a violation of WP:CIRCULAR. The 8 cited sources on the other hand, all of which refer to him as Persian/Iranian, are from highly reputable academic presses and scholarly institutes, i.e. Cambridge University Press, Oxford University Press, Columbia University, etc. Its not even close to being supposedly contested.
 * " It's a fact that Kurdish history is dismissed "
 * According to?
 * "we hope"
 * Who's we? Reddit, Facebook, Youtube Comments?
 * "Dinawar is/was a region in Kudistan."
 * Last time I checked, it is/was located in Iran.
 * "Al-Dinwari has a publication named as "Ancestry of the Kurds" not the Persians or other people in the region."
 * And?
 * "His grand-father's name is Kurdish!"
 * Any reliable source?
 * "and also his expertise was in plant and botany!"
 * So having expertise in plant and botany proves one is Kurdish?
 * Unless there's some grand conspiracy by Western academics to dismiss "Kurdish history", this comment is as futile as the rest of the edits you've made. tl;dr; WP:NOTHERE. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * It's your personal interest and view. Have you read 7 (not 8 actually)... you even didn't try to find out one of those 8 is Britanica and to you it's not valuable, how come one of those 7 is Iranica is valuable? If Britanica or Kurdisntnica is not valuable Iranica is also not which is supported by Pahlavi regime and money to build history. You asked according to? yes according to all the facts that Persian dominated the free wikipedia to twist the facts in their interest. Also the last resource is by Davaran! who is a Persian lady in San Fransico university (which is not very reputable per you) if we forget the fact that she's Persian and obviously biased! We hope, we are the people who use wikipedia... wikipedia doesn't belong to you or your dad or your tribe... it's for people and I individually contribute money to it to spread the truth based on facts. Dinawar is located in Kurdistan it's not up to you to check, hope you don't ignore the fact that Kurdistan is a widespread region in an area known as mid-east! why you talk the way you know better than every body? who gave you that certificate to push your agenda. Wikipedia must be based on resources and fact. Give one fact that he is Persian? I can count for you at least 4! His name, his birth-place, his publication and his expertises which matches with Kurdistan climate not Persian's areas. Have you ever been to Persian cities in the middle of desert? How in the world Dinawari could find all these plants in Yazd or Isfahan. Dinawar is located in Kurdistan, and if you don't like the facts don't edit in Wikipedia... it's not your asset. And? and to what? he has a book "Ancestry of the Kurds" which is more reliable than a Persian lady's book in SF that you rely on! He is from Dinawar and wrote a book about the ancestry of people in Dinawar! how hard that is to you? if it's hard to you doesn't mean he is not Kurdish. His grand-father name is "Wanand", it's a Kurdish name... Like many names that are Kurdish and everybody knows that Wanand is Kurdish. We know that for example Mohammad is an Arabic name, Abraham is an Hebrew name and Siavash is Persian name and Wanand is a Kurdish name! yes having expertises in botanic for someone who was born in Dinawar which located in Kurdistan proves that he's Kurdish. It's a known fact that Kurdistan plethora resources of plants is not comparable to Persian areas. You must visit Kurdistan and Iran (Persian areas) to know this fact! There is dismissal by Wikipedia which that is edited by Persian towards Kurdish and Wikipedia must do something about it to avoid false propagation. 161.167.234.60 (talk) 00:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * And if you know Persian i must tell you they don't have "w" instead they pronounce all "w"s a "v" sound unlike the Kurds who have both "w" and "v" in their language. The region name is dinaWar not dinaVar! if it was Persian at all. Dinawar district is surrounded by Kurdish areas not Persian araes, which tells this region is and has been Kurdish. Please try not to fight with facts and obvious otherwise this attitude is very dangerous to Wikiepdia and science. 161.167.234.60 (talk) 00:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * And yes in overall, there is dismissal from Westerners against the Kurds in favor of Persians/Turks... It's a known fact again based on the late history! One of the foundation of the "smokey" Persian history is by Richard N. Frye who developed a research and his PhD candidate article claims false about Kurds and their history! A PhD Candidate essay! this is ridiculous. And another fact that his wife was an Assyrian from Urmia city of Iran! Assyrian had bloody conflict in that exact region she was born and she happened to be the wife of a Persian admirer Phd student! if that is not bias and against science and conflict of interests then what is? I believe there is an effort to dismiss the Kurds through the late history but they were not successful and Kurds are standing on their feet regardless of all the oppression by the Westerners and their puppets in the region including Persian our Brothers! all in all, wikipedia must be based on facts and resources. Based on fact Dinwar is a region in Kurdistan if you like it or not 161.167.234.60 (talk) 00:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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