User talk:173.63.1.241

July 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to the page List of criminal organizations has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. J.delanoy gabs adds 20:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Just how are we defining criminal organizations here?
Hey bro, it's good you are editing and trying to improve Wikipedia (as am I, every now and then, not so much these days tho). I see you have made many new sections created in the List of criminal organizations article as of the last week or so. I've been reluctant to get involved (aside from when chunks are deleted) but do private investigators, governments and unethical companies really count? If governments counted this article has the potential to be extremely subjective. One could then call the Bush administration a criminal organization (if one had a left-wing inclination), but that's stretching way beyond the mobsters, drug dealers and gang members that have made up this list for the majority of it's lifetime. Not all terrorists are necessarily involved in organized crime (the ETA smuggles cocaine and robs banks, what does the Animal Liberation Front do?). I'm also unconvinced outlaw robber gangs count are formalised enough count as a criminal "organizations" (if they are large-scale systematic operations like this Veerappan guy, then they might. Bonnie and Clyde, no.). Thanks Nicknackrussian (talk) 20:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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