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Dom (mountain)
Just a polite note to say that I have now added detail to the normal route to the Dom, which you seem rather keen to stress as being a more difficult and demanding route than it deserves to be described as. I've supported my edits with a reference to the Alpine Club guidebook. Maybe you've done it? It's certainly a long, physically tiring 6 hour snow trudge up an easy glaciated slope, but not objectively dangerous or demanding to any fit person, and is graded at F+/PD-. From my recollection of descending the route (and I swore to myself that I would never go up it as it's so darned long and boring!), the only objective danger was an avalanche-prone slope which had already thrown some debris across a short section of the tracks that many climbers were taking, rather too close beneath the north flank. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I have reverted this edit you made to Dom (mountain), which removed cited content for quite unacceptable reasons. Please do not do so again just because you happen to think the mountain is not a relatively easy (albeit interminably long) glacier ascent. I can assure you I have no financial motive for inserting correct information into Alps-related articles from two high quality, published sources. I don't understand your insistence that the voie normale on the Dom is a difficult climb. Maybe you're thinking of the Tasch-Dom traverse? To an un-acclimatised person or inexperienced individual with no mountaineering skills, of course it would be a difficult challenge! But then every trip into any mountain and glaciated territory would then have to be described the same way, which is pointless. But that's not how we judge or describe mountain routes. But on the scale of the normal routes up all of the alpine 4000mer mountains, the Dom is anything but a difficult climb. Interminably long, yes, but that's not the same. Now, as you live in Switzerland, perhaps you have new sources you can cite which show that glacier conditions on the N side of the Dom have now changed so much since either Dumler or Martin Moran wrote their books, and that the Dom is now a officially graded as a difficult ascent by the normal route? If so, feel free to cite them. But do not delete properly cited content because of your personal opinion. Remember, there is a great difference between 'difficult' and tiring, and that the word used is "relatively easily" climbed - and here we are using the internationally recognised UIAA Grading of mountain routes of Facile+/Peu Difficile - the two lowest grades of alpine mountain routes you can encounter. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
Hello, I'm Nick Moyes. I noticed that you recently removed content from Dom (mountain) without adequately explaining why. The source was a reliable British guide to the mountain and wholly relevant to the descrption of the route on the mountain. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary, or discuss changes you propose to make on the article's tak page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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