User talk:187.36.167.15

June 2021
While Wikipedia welcomes a diversity of editors holding a very wide range of personal opinions, all editors must edit keeping our Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) policy firmly in mind. For instance, edits which reflect the views of neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, white supremacists, white nationalists, identitarians, and other racists who seek to exclude, oppress or discriminate against other people based on their race, nationality, religious beliefs or ethnicity will be immediately removed on sight. Such editors are not allowed to use Wikipedia as a tool for propaganda in disseminating their views, and they are usually indefinitely blocked on sight if they express their racist ideas on-wiki. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * , my edit was factual. Unfounded gossiping about someone's mother, be him a nazi or an alien, has no place in a serious encyclopedia. 187.36.167.15 (talk) 03:47, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Your edit summary questioned the Nuremberg Trials, you removed sourced information, and you removed the fact that Goering was a convicted war criminal. Such pro-Nazi edits will not be allowed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * So the Nuremberg Trials can't be questioned? Among the very first things one learns when entering law-school is that such things were mock-trials, because the judges (apointees from various allied nations) had no jurisdiction to judge the people tried. Not to mention other things particular to the Nuremberg trial, such as the deliberate decision that the trials were not bound by evidence, or the notorious political pressure by some countries behind the trial (notoriously the USSR) to execute and imprison certain people. In sum: it was a formalized execution of undesirable people under the pretense of a farcical trial. This is the only unbiased view on the subject that is possible - and no serious academic, either on law or history, will state otherwise, or go as far as saying that the Nuremberg Trials "can't be questioned" as you just implied. To do so is to have extreme narrow-mindedness. One can justify the mock-trial as being "necessary" and "an answer to the war-crimes commited by the defeated nations to hold the people responsible accountable" and as a "foundation for the establishment of human rights and an international order post ww2", or simply as "oh, they deserved it!" but it doesn't change the reality that these were mock-trials and executions, and one has to be honest with himself.


 * I will not make further edits to the article, as gossiping about someone's mother - "sourced" or not - seems to be OK with Wikipedia's policies, which clearly show it is not mean to be taken a serious site or encyclopedia.


 * Furthermore, I didn't "remove" the supposed fact that Goering was a convicted war criminal - as I said in the edit summary, the article, and even it's introduction, dealt with it plenty. What I did was to remove such description from the first paragraph because (and, again, I stated that in the edit summary)that was not the main thing that person was known for. He is not a notorious war-criminal, like Joseph Mengele or Oskar Dirlewanger, who are mostly remembered for the attrocities they commited. Göring was primarily a politician.


 * And you say "such 'pRo-NAzI' edits will NOT be tolerated!!!1" really reveals that YOU are editing the article with a heavy bias, to the point of being almost paranoid of even suspected impartiality towards the theme. That really shows the credentials of this site - which are dim, to say the least. Have a nice day. 187.36.167.15 (talk) 17:50, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Pro-Nazi edits will not be tolerated, per WP:NONAZIS. Your edits are being closely monitored. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)Ű